Ya, I hope Cerulean targets band 13, and they succeed with VZ as a capable carrier for one of their phones or all if possible. That would be the way to go, a nexus-like start for their line of Windows Phones! Since 2015 there's been nothing new with Windows for big red, so the folks left on their network with old devices could tip the scale easily. I used VZ for a long time, until the 950 came out, and I was fortunate enough to have already bounced from the account when I was on Project FI, so I jumped over to AT&T and been here since. From what I read and knew VZ certified phones were all that could be ACTIVATED on their network. Even if it was cdma capable and had certain frequencies, band 13 had to be certified with VZ and involved time and money. I think it is a different story now, much like you shared above. In where unlocked devices will work but do not necessarily need to be VZ carrier specific (exclusive or tailored in that way) in every way. Much like the Pixel and most nexus devices that are unlocked or sim-unlocked. I also read from users that unlocked VZ capable phones using CDMA were able to obtain VoLTE and wifi calling even though they were not VZ branded. Which, in a way, is more to speak of than even AT&T. We are not talking Google here, but I bet Greg's testing of carrier sim's involves, in a nut shell some of what you stated above. Everything costs time, and with VZ it is both costly and time consuming....I am curious, has anyone checked to see if FCC certified anything for them or even checked the WiFi alliance website lately?Check this post and below: http://forums.windowscentral.com/ce...gh-cough*-dusting-off-thread.html#post3603139
In November they tweeted CDMA and later there is an indication that LTE Band 13 might be included. Now there is the question of whether the costly and lengthy process of certifying for Vzw is being done.
However, if the FCC certifies a device Band 13 capable/compliant they also have a ruling that Vzw cannot bar that device from their network. If there is no official Vzw inclusion for such a device I believe that leaves the door open for a workaround or two.
One would be for the individual consumer to lobby Vzw to add their ESN/IMEI to their database (likely a herculean task).
Another I have heard is that if a Vzw SIM is active (or activated) in a Vzw branded device you can simply move t over to a capable device and it will work.
YMMV. I will say this all academic to me as I've never used Verizon as a carrier.