Do smokers deserve health insurance?

[WasteSomeTime]

Im in the UK, so believe that everyone is entitled to health treatment no matter what they do with their bodies. You pay the price by the amount of years you lose from your lifespan, it is an individuals choice as to whether they party hard and die at 30 or stay sensible and live to 80..

That's not good enough. Chain smokers should be dropping like flies. There are too many tax dollars being spent on their health or what's left of it.

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[vp710]

Both. Stressful jobs don't kill anyone other than the person doing the job.

Ah, come on, you're being dishonest. The reason you used for not treating smokers is because their habit kill them, not other people. And even if we stopped giving access to health insurance because they're potentially hurting other people (which would not make sense at all and be stupid), no one would have health insurance.

I see smokers constantly getting treated for their " indulgence ". I know the tax payer's dollars do to treatments. They get a stroke, get treated and come right back. Today a patient at a health facility told me that the government should wait on him no matter what because he is a citizen.

 

[WasteSomeTime]

Ah, come on, you're being dishonest. The reason you used for not treating smokers is because their habit kill them, not other people. And even if we stopped giving access to health insurance because they're potentially hurting other people (which would not make sense at all and be stupid), no one would have health insurance.

Second hand does kill other people. Here's an example a father smokes at home for several years during that time his daughter ( a child ) is living with him. By the time she is a teen, she has emphysema. She never smoked. But due to your understanding that's not her father's fault. So she pulled that lung disease out of her ***.

And why would other people not have health insurance. I am referring to smokers.

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[vp710]

 

[WasteSomeTime]

I don't understand, what is this.

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[12Danny123]

NZ sounds like a horrible place to live.

Not really. the place is beautiful and we NZders want to keep like that. we're not getting it ruined by smokers

 

[mmacleodbrown]

That's not good enough. Chain smokers should be dropping like flies. There are too many tax dollars being spent on their health or what's left of it.

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Not at all - they pay the same NI as me, but then they pay thousands extra into the government coffers with tax on every packet of fags that they buy - I have no issue with it as a tax payer - it is not for me to preach how other people lead their lives.

I also won't preach to Americans about their health system as I cant claim to understand the complexities over how it works either...

If people want to smoke, then they are silly, but it is their decision..

 

[twincamfxd]

So essentially what you are saying is:
Smoking kills people, is unhealthy, and harmful to others, so those people should die. Drinking kills people, drunk drivers kill many, many people every year, not to mention the crime and violence committed by people because they are drunk, scerosis (sp) of the liver, and let's face it, how many people actually drink just one a night (healthy limit). But that's ok.... You can't pick and choose vices to punish.

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[vp710]

I think we're wasting our time with OP. He's either a troll, 12 years old or incredibly stupid.

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[WasteSomeTime]

So essentially what you are saying is:
Smoking kills people, is unhealthy, and harmful to others, so those people should die. Drinking kills people, drunk drivers kill many, many people every year, not to mention the crime and violence committed by people because they are drunk, scerosis (sp) of the liver, and let's face it, how many people actually drink just one a night (healthy limit). But that's ok.... You can't pick and choose vices to punish.

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That's right they should I just wanted to see if anyone shares that opinion. So does anyone think so?

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[palandri]

..with that the thread is closed.