Do you think WP8.1 is on par with IOS and ANDROID?

How do you know that? Are you looking in an emulator? In that case forget it, the emulator will be uppdated.




No i am not looking in an Emulator. I played with Lumia 1520 with latest Version of 8.1 and i ask an Nokia Guy last Friday at Nokia Conference in Germany.
 
No i am not looking in an Emulator. I played with Lumia 1520 with latest Version of 8.1 and i ask an Nokia Guy last Friday at Nokia Conference in Germany.
Latest version of a beta? The version to the devs isn't out yet, neither is the customer version.
 
Honestly being a user of wp for past 11 months i don't think so.....

I hav been a past symbian user there were sum features i have to adapt like multitasking
Honestly it sucks!!! And anyone using wp cant deny it....
But i have adapted it so no problems now but i do hope 8.1 brings improved multitasking??

As now onto question.... Honestly it is on par with android with 8.1 and ios also but here and there som features.... That will be two coming in gdr's
I think this because there is still app gap... According to me.... For eg... A updated version of the app is never been available at the same time... And the when it comes as it... That will dday i will consider wp on par....

I think microsoft was not active from start from 2010 because they weren't even having confidence on their own os and if they have started taking steps then
The situation now would have been a bit ( alot) different and when they seen because of nokia they started working hard as its the only oem who had given efforts to bring up this platform and that is why i chose lumia over others...��
 
Honestly being a user of wp for past 11 months i don't think so.....

I hav been a past symbian user there were sum features i have to adapt like multitasking
Honestly it sucks!!! And anyone using wp cant deny it....
But i have adapted it so no problems now but i do hope 8.1 brings improved multitasking??

As now onto question.... Honestly it is on par with android with 8.1 and ios also but here and there som features.... That will be two coming in gdr's
I think this because there is still app gap... According to me.... For eg... A updated version of the app is never been available at the same time... And the when it comes as it... That will dday i will consider wp on par....

I think microsoft was not active from start from 2010 because they weren't even having confidence on their own os and if they have started taking steps then
The situation now would have been a bit ( alot) different and when they seen because of nokia they started working hard as its the only oem who had given efforts to bring up this platform and that is why i chose lumia over others...��

It`s so hard to read this post.
 
It is on par from an operating standpoint. It is behind on third party apps by a large margin.

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If the app performs as it should, does it really matter if it's 3rd party? How many programs on our desktop actually come from the OEMs?

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It actually is increasing the gap.. Always felt WP8 was better than the others despite lacking some key features. WP8.1 just gave it a Great Leap Forward.
 
It actually is increasing the gap.. Always felt WP8 was better than the others despite lacking some key features. WP8.1 just gave it a Great Leap Forward.
"Great Leap Forward"??? Have you looked at the documentation for the FilePicker? Before calling that API I have to prepare my WP81 app for termination, just in case it happens. WTF? A WP81 device has at least 512 MB of system memory to work with. The Async sh*t in WinRT was bad enough but this FilePicker crap is beyond belief. I have no idea what they're thinking up in Redmond these days. Whoever designed and implemented WinRT/WinPRT should never be allowed near a computer again.
 
If the app performs as it should, does it really matter if it's 3rd party? How many programs on our desktop actually come from the OEMs?

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OEMS make hardware though. When Jr comes to mobile apps, they should be first party because of 1.) Reliable updates 2.) Its official so no api changes will affect it. 3.) It does not run the risk of the official company telling the third party developed to take it down (as evidenced by the recent tinder app).

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"Great Leap Forward"??? Have you looked at the documentation for the FilePicker? Before calling that API I have to prepare my WP81 app for termination, just in case it happens. WTF? A WP81 device has at least 512 MB of system memory to work with. The Async sh*t in WinRT was bad enough but this FilePicker crap is beyond belief. I have no idea what they're thinking up in Redmond these days. Whoever designed and implemented WinRT/WinPRT should never be allowed near a computer again.

What are you ranting about?

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Only thing we will need to be on par is some of the apps android and iOS have.

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It can't compete with android yet. With Google's music experience you can have 20k songs that you upload to the cloud from your computer and never pay google a cent. With microsoft's poor music experience, they have leaps and bounds to catch up in the multimedia experience realm.
 
It is on par from an operating standpoint. It is behind on third party apps by a large margin.

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If the app performs as it should, does it really matter if it's 3rd party? How many programs on our desktop actually come from the OEMs?

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I misspoke about 3rd party. I meant behind in many apps in the app store. 3rd party in meaning any software that isn't provided by the OEM or MS.

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OmG, its not coming. It is hard to believe right?

Actually judging from what I'm seeing from devs yes it is coming. Though apparently coding for it is clunky as anything. But once the WP8.1 preview comes out we'll be able to tell with a more definitive answer.
 
I think it has more to do with platform limitations.

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No, it has to do with mental limitations of the SDEs in WinPRT at MSFT. If the system is low on memory the FilePicker should reduce its memory usage (show text instead of thumbnails, etc.). If it still runs out of memory, how about this concept: return an OUT_OF_MEMORY error!. It's ok, sometimes things fail. You never design an API so that the rare error case metastasizes throughout third party code ... yet that's exactly what they've done here.

Design errors like this, where the exceptional case rules the roost, happens when there are too many cooks in the kitchen. You have a bunch of devs in a room and they all chime in with what could go wrong. Rather than design something that works 99.9% of the time (returning a freaking filename), the developer implementing the API is saddled with dealing with ninety-nine 0.1% cases that won't ever happen and comes up with a monstrosity. It's a failure of middle management to go to the dev and say "make it work and fail out on rare cases". Been there, done that.
 

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