FLASH PLAYER for wp8

[killakiloz]

There is already a flash player app in the store, costs 2.99. I've used it, it works

 

[Dustin Hodges]

There is already a flash player app in the store, costs 2.99. I've used it, it works

Is it true flash (webpages, .swf files, etc...), or is it one of those "flash video players" that "plays videos from popular flash sites".

 

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This isn't possible. Adobe flash is closed source, so it can't be ported. That's why even jailbroken iOS devices have never seen flash.

 

[Moiz Mian]

Is it true flash (webpages, .swf files, etc...), or is it one of those "flash video players" that "plays videos from popular flash sites".

It's just a flash video player for popular sites, but the list is pretty large, and honestly, what else do you want to do on your phone that requires flash? Play kitten cannon and other flash games?

 

[Dustin Hodges]

It's just a flash video player for popular sites, but the list is pretty large, and honestly, what else do you want to do on your phone that requires flash? Play kitten cannon and other flash games?

A majority of the flash content i enjoy is interactive (.swf), versus the mere flash video format (.flv).

This isn't possible. Adobe flash is closed source, so it can't be ported. That's why even jailbroken iOS devices have never seen flash.

Yes, but people have managed to make open source alternatives (like LightSpark), while others, as far as android is concerned, have *ahem* somehow "integrated" the official adobe flash with their software. (after i lost flash when adobe discontinued it, back when i owned an android device, i found a free flash player that could open swf files and load webpages containing flash, without need of the adobe flash player for android.)

 

[link68759]

A majority of the flash content i enjoy is interactive (.swf), versus the mere flash video format (.flv).



Yes, but people have managed to make open source alternatives (like LightSpark), while others, as far as android is concerned, have *ahem* somehow "integrated" the official adobe flash with their software. (after i lost flash when adobe discontinued it, back when i owned an android device, i found a free flash player that could open swf files and load webpages containing flash, without need of the adobe flash player for android.)

like I said, "interactive swf"... All the flash games you've played are just clones of older games, and there are clones a plenty in the app store of the same games.

Would swf support be nice? Sure, why not. But if adding support for a dying, crappy runtime is on the table, there are a host of other changes WP needs that definitely take priority.

Flash is in fact dying. Not of natural causes- internet standards are evolving to replace it, and any web developer worth a d*** is eager to see flash dead. Flash is a technical and administrative nightmare, it never had good performance and never will, security vulnerabilities are more plentiful than cats in a crazy lady's house...

Sure, some kids learned to develop in flash and nothing else, and are too lazy to move on, so the content they produce and websites they manage will continue to employ flash for the foreseeable future. But their numbers are dwindling, and no (sane) person is picking up and learning to write in flash today, so flash will be where Java is now pretty soon.

Another thing that's killing flash is mobile devices. Mobile devices use apps, and having an app portal to your website is far better and much more preferable than having a flash based site that a phone can clumsily navigate around.

For those of you that think you need flash, I'm sure that if you actually looked around for alternatives, you'll realize that you don't actually need flash for anything except for streaming video. What would you tell me if I said I wouldn't update to windows 8x64 because I needed to use my favorite web browser, Netscape navigator, on windows 3.1? And I demanded that 8x64 support the 16 bit runtime? Yeah, that's crazy backwards talk, and in the modern world we use Firefox.

 

[Dustin Hodges]

like I said, "interactive swf"... All the flash games you've played are just clones of older games, and there are clones a plenty in the app store of the same games.

Did you read? Interactive Content =/= Knock Off Games. I frequent art sites where some of the user generated content is flash based. And this content CANNOT be found in the app store.

Would swf support be nice? Sure, why not. But if adding support for a dying, crappy runtime is on the table...

It is neither crappy nor dying. I've found interactive flash content at times faster and more feature rich than similar HTML5 content. And a number of corporations still use it (Google, Nintendo, etc...). Hell, YouTube still defaults to flash (unless you opt in to HTML5), since their HTML5 player is still crap at times.

...there are a host of other changes WP needs that definitely take priority.

I would think it would fall to the IE team, not the WP team.

Flash is in fact dying. Not of natural causes- internet standards are evolving to replace it, and any web developer worth a d*** is eager to see flash dead.

Nope. Also, those are the same devs, I bet, who think webkit = standards, and think making a site IE compatible is still a *****.

Flash is a technical and administrative nightmare, it never had good performance and never will, security vulnerabilities are more plentiful than cats in a crazy lady's house...

It has great performance in my experience. And I usually see Java in the headlines, not flash. Only time I hear of a security vulnerability in flash, it usually has something to do with OSx and Safari.

Sure, some kids learned to develop in flash and nothing else, and are too lazy to move on, so the content they produce and websites they manage will continue to employ flash for the foreseeable future. But their numbers are dwindling, and no (sane) person is picking up and learning to write in flash today, so flash will be where Java is now pretty soon.

First off, ever think that just maybe there are no platform agnostic, widely available web technologies that can do what those devs need, and their only other option is to pay a dev fee anywhere from $20 to $100, and release an app on only one platform? Free, browser based, and platform agnostic sounds pretty good.

Another thing that's killing flash is mobile devices. Mobile devices use apps, and having an app portal to your website is far better and much more preferable than having a flash based site that a phone can clumsily navigate around.

omg. "Flash Based Site"? What is this? Era of IE6? I've never seen such thing! Who does that! XD

but you are right about one thing: mobile has lessened flash's influence, as well as increased HTML5's.

For those of you that think you need flash, I'm sure that if you actually looked around for alternatives, you'll realize that you don't actually need flash for anything except for streaming video.

nope. Read my first sentence of this reply. Video is last on the list of "why I need flash".

What would you tell me if I said I wouldn't update to windows 8x64 because I needed to use my favorite web browser, Netscape navigator, on windows 3.1? And I demanded that 8x64 support the 16 bit runtime?

I would say you are absolutely insane. Either that or you are in you're late 60's, early 70's, and aren't up to date.

Yeah, that's crazy backwards talk, and in the modern world we use Firefox.

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in the modern world, We use either A) Chrome, or B) Internet Explorer.

you know internet explorer 11 is both faster and safer than Firefox and the other 2 top browsers? And that it is standards compliant?

not to mention, *you need a freaking super computer to run Firefox properly anymore these days.

*NOTE: This is a hyperbole

 

[link68759]

Well, thank for letting me know you're not worth replying to.

 

[Dustin Hodges]

Can a moderator or administrator or whatever lock this thread?

We have established that flash mobile is officially discontinued, that its possible but unlikely for it to arrive on Windows Phone, and my trolldar? is going off like crazy (though unsure if its just a false alarm...)

this thread is now pointless and redundant.

 

[eric12341]

http://forums.windowscentral.com/windows-phone-8/210477-official-what-wp-needs-succeed.html