Goodbye, Lumia 920: The AT&T Exclusive Superphone Will Probably Flop

But the states is not important than the world mate. USA is a minor skuff compare to china India etc. Nokia knows what they are doing. Nokia said they will bring each carrier a unique phone. So that rumoured 822 will likely have a smaller screen but with Nokia lumia 920 features. Why does everybody think USA is the world? Or they can do the 30 day exclusives

So you are saying windows phone will fail?. Of course it won't. T-mobile,at&t and Verizon are basically in for wp8 and win 8. And just because the 920 is exclusive to AT&T does not mean Nokia and wp are doomed. There are other phones they are gonna advertise first. T-mobile will advertise the 8X first then after the exclusive is done then they will go to the 820 and the 920. It's simple. And no winterfang. The future of wp does not depend on Nokia. It depends on ms, samsung, htc, Nokia and the carriers. Not just them

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Anymore personal attacks and this thread will be closed.


No need Eric. I promise I'll just ignore comments directed at me. Really don't see the essence of attacking someone when you disagree with him. There are lots of people like that here and and it's up to the victim to just ignore. When I reply to those comments it seems like I'm the bad guy so will just ignore from now on. ;-)
 
No need Eric. I promise I'll just ignore comments directed at me. Really don't see the essence of attacking someone when you disagree with him. There are lots of people like that here and and it's up to the victim to just ignore. When I reply to those comments it seems like I'm the bad guy so will just ignore from now on. ;-)

Doesn't it make you laugh that some people stoop so low to personally attack someone for their opinion ...especially on a phone and a network provider...

So it's true what I said about network loyalty over brand/OS loyalty?

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Seven pages of a thread for phones that haven't come out yet. Sure, why not.

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I'm starting to dislike Nokia, either they're unbelievable stupid or they're just destroying the company so later on Microsoft can buy them pretty cheap.

I already made my mind... I will be waiting for the Microsoft Phone, if it's anything like some of the fan renders out there or it's similar in design to the Zune HD, it will be awesome!
 
I'm starting to dislike Nokia, either they're unbelievable stupid or they're just destroying the company so later on Microsoft can buy them pretty cheap.

I already made my mind... I will be waiting for the Microsoft Phone, if it's anything like some of the fan renders out there or it's similar in design to the Zune HD, it will be awesome!
I hope the Microsoft Phone is amazing, but man, it might be a long wait!
 
I'm sure a Microsoft Phone comes it will be a wonderful device. However, the MAIN reason to get a 920 is the camera. An MS phone won't have that. Also the PureMotion screen with the ultrasensative touch, we could see something similar, but it is unlikely.
 
I'm sure a Microsoft Phone comes it will be a wonderful device. However, the MAIN reason to get a 920 is the camera. An MS phone won't have that. Also the PureMotion screen with the ultrasensative touch, we could see something similar, but it is unlikely.
Definitely. That camera and PureMotion cannot be beat.
 
Well, its sad that the Lumia 920 is only available through AT&T but its also understandable why it is only on AT&T. When Nokia announced the Lumia 900 its likely that no other carrier was willing to support and advertise it and thus AT&T looked a little bit into the future and stood up saying: "We will take the Lumia 900, we will advertise it and we will sell it. But you got to give us something back, that beign an exclusive deal for your WP8 device coming this autumn"

Nokia has been struggling in the United States for a very long time and they propably taught that well its better to have at least one of the major carriers support our flagship than none.

What I just dont understand in this whole situation is Microsofts deal with HTC, yes HTC is also struggling, but Nokia has done more for the platform in just 18months (Btw it was 18months to date when Nokia made the announcement :P) than HTC has done in 10 years. Now Microsoft seems to support HTC over Nokia, it is very likely that it was in fact Microsoft not HTC that pushed through the deals to get the 8X and 8S to all major carriers in the US. But if Microsoft was indeed behind the deals then why did they do it for HTC not for Nokia?

There has to be a real reason for all of this, perhaps it was HTC they propably said to Microsoft: "Look, we have been supporting you guys from the very beginning and now we really need your help, so please promote our products, help us with the deals and just for now take a break with Nokia"

There are many questions and not so many answers, im glad that I live in a country where I can choose my device and carrier without worrying if my carrier has the product or not. If my carrier does not have it then ill just buy it from somewhere else.

The United States has the highest rate of high-end phone sales and its the worlds second largest smartphone market, (as far as I know China is the biggest, but not the most valuable yet) so its reasonable to think that Nokia should give a fair amount of attention to the US market. However it should not be done by abandoning the rest of the world.
China and Europe should be Nokias #1 priority to be perfectly honest, why? Because it takes time to build a brand, and in the US Nokia is not very respected brand at the moment, thats why it should focus on building up its brand in the US and focus its sales targets to Europe and China where it does not need to do so much work with the advertising and where it has better relations to the carriers.

Im not saying that Nokia should not advertise, im saying that they can have far more done with the advertising here in Europe and China than in the US, let AT&T take care of the advertising and if AT&T does not promote Nokias product enough to build up peoples awareness of Nokias products then, seriously just ditch the exclusives.
 
What I just dont understand in this whole situation is Microsofts deal with HTC, yes HTC is also struggling, but Nokia has done more for the platform in just 18months (Btw it was 18months to date when Nokia made the announcement :P) than HTC has done in 10 years. Now Microsoft seems to support HTC over Nokia, it is very likely that it was in fact Microsoft not HTC that pushed through the deals to get the 8X and 8S to all major carriers in the US. But if Microsoft was indeed behind the deals then why did they do it for HTC not for Nokia?

I think Nokia 920/820 exclusivity deal may have been the turning point for that. 8x/s is coming to both carriers at launch, It just makes for a better strategy as a launch partner. I wouldn't be surprised if Nokia ends up being the top WP8 rep in the near future. I would consider his statement to only be a temporary thing.
 
Oh this thread

Nokia can't tell Verizon what to sell. Verizon is a snail at getting new phones look back at the original RAZR and iPhone. When they did get the Kin they priced the plans as a smartphone when it was only a featurephone.