HP X3 Verizon issues

[tgp]

@universalfield So are you using your X3 on Verizon? I haven't seen in any of your posts where you said how you got it working, but a more recent post says:

I'm happily using the phone already.

FWIW, it would be helpful to write shorter posts and more to the point. It is difficult to follow your current status.

 

[nate0]

I've got a Windows device in my coat pocket, and the platform is so obscure that I'm probably safer with that than anything else in general use. LOL

Interesting perspective and true depending on who you are

 

[universalfield]

@universalfield So are you using your X3 on Verizon? I haven't seen in any of your posts where you said how you got it working, but a more recent post says:




FWIW, it would be helpful to write shorter posts and more to the point. It is difficult to follow your current status.

My posts are quite short. They're just surrounded by telegraph snippets.

I'll keep to the old ways of actually communicating context to validate contention. Everyone else can tap their Morse keys and pass around half a point and misunderstanding. I won't play ball, in that regard.

Reading comprehension has been almost entirely lost recently, and it causes problems. Big problems.

 

[tgp]

Everyone else can tap their Morse keys and pass around half a point and misunderstanding.

FWIW, this thread has been full of misunderstandings. I'm not sure your antidote is working! :sweaty:

I'm still curious; how did you get your X3 working on Verizon?

 

[universalfield]

Heh. I may be whistling in a hurricane, but if I'm to die being the last man on earth holding language together, so be it. I can actually type these posts in adherence to any era of English development. I just keep it modern in general.

How I got it working: I opened a post-paid account with a competing device that I knew would sell for the same amount of money I'd get back if I returned it. Then I swapped the SIM, and the phone shows up in my Verizon account as an X3. That's only going to work if you have an existing account.

I decided to finance something off the shelf so I could make a payment to offset the credit check.

 

[nate0]

Heh. I may be whistling in a hurricane, but if I'm to die being the last man on earth holding language together, so be it. I can actually type these posts in adherence to any era of English development. I just keep it modern in general.

How I got it working: I opened a post-paid account with a competing device that I knew would sell for the same amount of money I'd get back if I returned it. Then I swapped the SIM, and the phone shows up in my Verizon account as an X3. That's only going to work if you have an existing account.

I decided to finance something off the shelf so I could make a payment to offset the credit check.

When I opened our new VZW account I used my wife's iPhone first. Then I added the X3 with a new inactivated sim card. Maybe that was my difference...

That's odd that vzw basically forced you to have an account active for a device you don't intend to use or keep just to activate an unlocked X3 for their network....sounds like a good sales tactic to me as ambiguous as it seems.

 

[tgp]

When I opened our new VZW account I used my wife's iPhone first. Then I added the X3 with a new inactivated sim card. Maybe that was my difference...

That's odd that vzw basically forced you to have an account active for a device you don't intend to use or keep just to activate an unlocked X3 for their network....sounds like a good sales tactic to me as ambiguous as it seems.

It's not a sales tactic. They just don't have provision for activating a device not in their database. They did change that with a few factory unlocked devices of which there is also a Verizon version, such as the Pixel lineup.

I don't understand why they need a Verizon device though for activation. Essentially the SIM card is activated. The SIM card provisions the device. I have heard of reps grabbing a device from display to activate a SIM card for a customer who has a factory unlocked phone. Obviously it doesn't matter what the device is, as long as it is in their database.

 

[fatclue_98]

I don't understand why they need a Verizon device though for activation.

Simple. They still use CDMA for voice/SMS so it has to be provisioned. Do you still have to do the *228 bit to activate?

 

[tgp]

Simple. They still use CDMA for voice/SMS so it has to be provisioned. Do you still have to do the *228 bit to activate?

I'm not sure that's it. The SIM card does the provisioning. I don't do anything except put the SIM card in the phone. I don't even have to reboot the phone (this might depend on the phone, but I don't recall ever having to reboot after inserting a Verizon SIM card in the last several years). A few seconds after inserting the SIM card I have LTE, voice, SMS, MMS, and the phone shows up on my Verizon account online. No *228 needed.

Now, to activate the SIM card the Verizon reps might have to use *228. I don't know about that. But when I'm swapping SIM cards, I don't do anything at all other than swap the SIM card and wait a few seconds.

 

[nate0]

I'm not sure that's it. The SIM card does the provisioning. I don't do anything except put the SIM card in the phone. I don't even have to reboot the phone (this might depend on the phone, but I don't recall ever having to reboot after inserting a Verizon SIM card in the last several years). A few seconds after inserting the SIM card I have LTE, voice, SMS, MMS, and the phone shows up on my Verizon account online. No *228 needed.

Now, to activate the SIM card the Verizon reps might have to use *228. I don't know about that. But when I'm swapping SIM cards, I don't do anything at all other than swap the SIM card and wait a few seconds.

*228 is used on legacy devices (3G only). You might actually fry the modem or sim card if you do that in certain newer devices. Well not actually fry it, but in other words mess it up.

 

[tgp]

*228 is used on legacy devices (3G only). You might actually fry the modem or sim card if you do that in certain newer devices. Well not actually fry it, but in other words mess it up.

I really have no idea. I never used *228.

 

[fatclue_98]

*228 is used on legacy devices (3G only). You might actually fry the modem or sim card if you do that in certain newer devices. Well not actually fry it, but in other words mess it up.

I know Verizon is going to be 100% VoLTE soon but as far as I know, I believe there's only one phone right now that doesn't have a CDMA radio for voice/text. I want to say it's a ZTE flip phone. I'd hate to be in a fringe area relying exclusively on LTE, that may be a yuuuge gamble for Big Red.

 

[tgp]

I know Verizon is going to be 100% VoLTE soon but as far as I know, I believe there's only one phone right now that doesn't have a CDMA radio for voice/text. I want to say it's a ZTE flip phone. I'd hate to be in a fringe area relying exclusively on LTE, that may be a yuuuge gamble for Big Red.

As much as Verizon is lambasted for using CDMA, CDMA is why Verizon has the best overall coverage. I think few people, even many Americans, realize how large and sparsely populated the United States is. The average cell phone tower in Europe has 3 or 4 times the population living within its range as a cell phone tower in the US.

CDMA has better range than GSM, which means that Verizon can cover the same area as a GSM carrier with less towers.

LTE range is relatively short. Verizon (and other carriers) are putting up microcells to increase LTE coverage. The logistics of covering the US make it a costly endeavor. They've still got to pay the bills. I would hate to have to rely on LTE coverage right now, even Verizon's.

 

[universalfield]

As much as Verizon is lambasted for using CDMA, CDMA is why Verizon has the best overall coverage. I think few people, even many Americans, realize how large and sparsely populated the United States is. The average cell phone tower in Europe has 3 or 4 times the population living within its range as a cell phone tower in the US.

CDMA has better range than GSM, which means that Verizon can cover the same area as a GSM carrier with less towers.

LTE range is relatively short. Verizon (and other carriers) are putting up microcells to increase LTE coverage. The logistics of covering the US make it a costly endeavor. They've still got to pay the bills. I would hate to have to rely on LTE coverage right now, even Verizon's.

You've hit the nail on the head.

This nation is quite unique, in that regard.

 

[Dennis McMillan]

Hello and I am also one of the few Windows phone hold outs...My trusty Icon battery is just about done, so I went and found an HP x3 for verizon on the microsoft store...The thing is, I am having the same issues as you do...1x during calls and not receiving or able to send texts from time to time.

Did you ever get this resolved? I contacted Verizon, and they added the VoLTE to my line, but it still does not work. I guess I am just hoping someone can tell me how to make this phone work right.

I truly want to love this handset, but at the same time my Icon was by far superior if these issues do not get fixed.

I hope someone can help?

Thank you and God bless!