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I wonder if At&T or Verizon will sell antivirus packages with their cell service for Android and include a new malware kit for free.
Oh really? Name one....
Sorry but being able to change the volume seperately and hve a browser forward button are fairly large omissions.
Yes, fellow teen friend.. More like a 29 year old electrical engineer. Wow, I said "lol"... Nice personal attack though, beats attacking my argument eh?
Does anyone know if the WP7 SMS hack was ever fixed? That's the most hilarious, slightly apocalyptic bug I've ever heard of--someone texts you a string of digits, and it breaks your phone so badly you have to hard reset.
Every ecosystem has malware and security exploits.
As for OS X, I'm not actually sure it's more secure because of it's Unix underpinnings. Too many people are logged in as root when they shouldn't be.
That's not exactly the case.
Is Windows 7 More Secure than Mac OS X? - ASP Free
Security Expert: Windows 7 Is More Secure Than Mac OS X
I disagree with this. Just because it's UNIX based doesn't mean it's more secure. There's a reason that Macs are often the first to crack in hacking contests. You're right that XP is less secure than Windows 7, but that's not the whole story. Apple has a pretty lax attitude about security, and they promote that attitude among their users.
That Java exploit that you speak of affected every platform including Windows and Linux. But it only really spread among Macs because Apple chose not to release the fix until 45 days after the other platforms. And as a percentage of users infected it was huge (about 1%), more than Blaster or even Conficker.
And really, if you're gonna let Apple off the hook because it was a Java exploit, then you should let MS off the hook for all the numerous exploits based on Flash, Java, Acrobat, etc. that have infected Windows over the years.
If you are seeing MORE incidences in Android - could it be that it is simply because of the sheer NUMBERS of android devices out there? :straight: Its an exponential thing. Same as PC viruses on Windows - there are MORE windows PCs than Apple - so guess who gets affected more? Put on your thinking caps!
Then again ther IS that "open source" approach - not EVERY one with the wherewithall to generate a program is guided by sweetness and light.... I'm certain there are some who are influenced by the "dark side" and some that are just curious to see what they can accomplish.For heaven's sake if every developer's "Bug", "crash", "endless loop" or "forced reboot" was seen as "malware" - then we'd all be stuck with simply what microsoft and apple doled out!
you ignored my pont that malware has als been found in the ios appstore... no os is 110% secure, sorry to burst your bubble.
To the person who said the beta test was over, why is your os still basically a beta then wiith all its missing features lol?
Just to clear up some misconceptions people have here -
Apple be it on a Mac, iPad or iPhone has terrible security and Apple is one of the slowest moving companies on closing holes or even acknowledging they exist.
Siri is being blocked due to sending unsecured information to Apple, if you lose your phone it's simple to crack the phone and get EVERY password you have saved on it, exploits with the official Facebook and gmail apps, ways to bypass entering your security code, carrier IQ and soooo much more.
Apple flat out sucks at security. They are the laughing stock of security.
That theory falls apart when you look at the iPhone which has a huge marketshare as well, but nowhere near the malware and exploit problems that Android has, even if you look at it proportionally.
Other Linux variants manage to be much more secure and resilient than Android. I submit that Android is just poorly coded and poorly maintained by Google. They vacillate between keeping it truly open-source and closed when it suits their purposes. They don't contribute much at all to the Linux kernel if anything.
Personally I couldn't care less if Android dropped off the face of the earth. The only applications in which I think its of any use are when it's cleaned up and completely locked down, like in embedded applications or in devices like the Amazon Kindle Fire.
Just my opinion, but having a loosey goosey all over the place approach to OS and ecosystem is fine for something like a desktop computer which is more forgiving and simple, but it makes no sense in a purpose built device that needs to be reliable above all else, like a phone. Would you want your car running on Android with bloatware, and an OEM skin and 3 dozen different styles of interface for every application? That would be fun when you got a unexpected force close of your fuel injection system as you were trying to merge onto the highway? Would you flash an experimental ROM on your cars ECU before heading out on a long road trip with your kids in the car?
Risking instability and dealing with unreliability and poor performance might be an acceptable compromise for some people in exchange for being able to make their home screen look like the set of Battlestar Galactica, but for me it just seems like the stupidest idea ever.
Local Scout,
Hardware Camera button that wakes the phone,
Built in Facebook, Twitter, Live, LinkedIn,
Bing Audio search,
Word, Excel, Powerpoint,
Xbox Live,
Zune Pass...
I'm sure other posters can chime in if needed. Those things you mentioned are minor, minor omissions. Hardly deal breaking.
I get no poor performance, you must have all had some pretty cheap android phones.... Never any freezes, slowdown, reboots, etc... I love my galaxy s2 skyrocket. Especially now with ics, it is a beast.
ftr I actually do like windows phone as well, checking back to see if windows phone 8 fixes the omissions that drove me away.
Unlike you guys I don't bash an os to make myself feel better.
aside from the camera button waking the phone (which actually afaik you can set up on cm7 or cm9), zune pass (which sucks, if you don't pay for it for one month you lose all your music and end u with a ton of songs on your phone you cant even listen to), and xbox live (which again I hardly consider a feature. Also isn't there an xbox live app on android? lol)
the other things you can totally do on android depending on the model you have. HTC phones have all the social networking built in if that is your bag.
There are plenty of fantastic apps for word, excel and powerpoint too.
I really haven't seen one thing a windows phone can do solely....
Like I've said before, I'm os neutral. Aside from iPhone which bores me (and I hate itunes), I like both wp7 and android.
I just laugh at the disinformation on here. If wp8 fixes some omissions I would come back I'm sure. I half considered buying a used wp7 phone too so I could have both.
I just don't like the hostility on these boards to anything that isn't wp7, or to anyone who posts something they consider an issue. You guys get really angry about it
If you don't like the hostility and misinformation about anything not WP you are welcome to go somewhere else. Reason why people are doing that is because they're dissatisfied with their experience on android and are now on WP which is totally fine.
I like wp7 but I also like android...
Though driving more people away is definitely a great way to help your fledgling os..
some people just fail in life....
You guys are funny! Comparing vulnerable OS's is rather like comparing a regular postal box to being susceptible to junk mail or the rural mailboxes to kids out bashing them at night!
You got a box? You run the risk of suffering from either problem! Solution? Yeah a few: Toss the junk mail without reading it, shred it and use it in the bottom of the hamster cage, or for garden mulch. Protect the box from bashing by encasing it in concrete - or get a rubbermaid box (just about impervious to bashing but not uprooting). Or get a post office box!
Solutions pretty similar to installing spyware, malware and antivirus security. There are always going to be jerks out there testing the locks on your vehicles, houses and bikes - you keep those things secure don't you? And you do know that there are certain areas of town ( and the web) that are more prone to a predominance of jerks right?
If you are seeing MORE incidences in Android - could it be that it is simply because of the sheer NUMBERS of android devices out there? :straight: Its an exponential thing. Same as PC viruses on Windows - there are MORE windows PCs than Apple - so guess who gets affected more? Put on your thinking caps!
Then again ther IS that "open source" approach - not EVERY one with the wherewithall to generate a program is guided by sweetness and light.... I'm certain there are some who are influenced by the "dark side" and some that are just curious to see what they can accomplish.For heaven's sake if every developer's "Bug", "crash", "endless loop" or "forced reboot" was seen as "malware" - then we'd all be stuck with simply what microsoft and apple doled out!
Common sense folks, common sense use it!