I'm ready to admit it.... Windows has gotten worse with 10

[Dietrich Cleijne]

Yeah, that was funny!

 

[sinisfree]

Windows 10 is okay, but modern apps sucks.

 

[vipme]

For anyone using their computer for productive work, Windows 7 i still the best option. Upgrading now isn't worth it, even if it's free.
I'd rather buy it in a few years if it gets better, than cope with loss of performance and crippled functionality now.

Over the years I've seen many programs that started out as useful tools getting transformed into some kind of media center and than miserably fail, hope windows is not going the same way.

Or wait, maybe if i install Directory Opus 11... maybe that will fix Win 10 to some degree :amaze: Not

 

[tangledW]

Man, Windows 10 is working great for me, and use productivity like Excel, Word, Adobe pdf, etc., all the time. Literally all day.

 

[jmshub]

Do you have a Surface Pro 3?

If you do, try this: Dual boot fresh, clean, installs. One with Windows 8.1 all patched and updated. The other Windows 10, all patched and updated.

Now, detach your keyboard (and a mouse if you have one connected) and put it in a drawer where you can't get to it easily. Get a full charge on the battery in the morning. Boot into W8.1 and run it for a day. Then the next day, on a full charge, run W10 in TABLET mode ONLY.

When you get done, come back and let us know which is easier to use, and which O/S lasted the longest on a single charge, and what bugs or weird things you noticed.

I ask this of you, because long ago MS used to do what was called "Eeeek!!! No mouse day!" with their programmers. The department manager would go around before anyone got in, in the morning, and take everyone's mouse away. It was a way to force the programmers to stop and realize that one of the missions of programming was to make sure that you could "drive" around the O/S and all the programs without a mouse.

I don't think anyone has done this with Windows 10 and forced anyone to just use it in "Tablet Mode". It's just to easy to stop, flip the keyboard, and go back to "Desktop Mode" when you are stuck or frustrated. I'm pretty sure they did "Eeeek!! No keyboard!" days with Windows 8.1 and forced everyone to use touch only, which oddly enough they did a really good job. But with W10... I don't think they have done one "Eeeek! No keyboard" day since the started working on it.

I don't have a SP3. Not sure why you quoted me on this, my advice stands. If you are unhappy with Windows 10, reinstall Windows 8.1. If you are feeling adventurous, you can see if Win10 gets any better after the update later this fall.

The nice part is that you have the option to choose either.

 

[Ten Four]

I've only played around with W10 a bit so I am not going to pronounce it good, bad, or indifferent until I get to know it, which I will have to do shortly since my employer will make the switch sometime later this year. But, I believe the problem with most software today is that it is all bloatware. Each new iteration includes more and more "features" that 95% of us will almost never use, plus it has to be backwards compatible with an ever vaster array of previous versions, drivers, etc. It is a wonder it works at all. Personally, having lived with word processing since it was first available it has mostly gone way downhill for the average user. Word used to be much more intuitive, fast, and just generally more pleasant to use. The same can be said for a lot of software. The endless feature bloat kills performance and makes it harder to use.

 

[Logix1]

I have been using Windows 10 for a couple of weeks now, and have found it quite pleasurable.
But have also found a few buggy moments. There two main problems I have found, Start button does not always open, also the same with cortana button. Hopefully this will be sorted in future updates.
Has anyone else had these intermittent bugs? or any other similar bugs in the O.S.?

 

[v535]

One problem with w10 is that some apps needs to be removed for example, Settings App should replace Control Panel entirely and its confusing to use two apps to adjust settings. Internally W10 is more efficient than w7 & w8.1. Until 10.1 is released, I'm sticking with w7.

 

[MikeSo]

IMO, Windows 10 is excellent on the desktop side, but compared to Windows 8.1 the Tablet/touch mode is worse - and that's largely thanks to Microsoft Edge.
As confusing as IE's dual nature in Windows 8.1 was, at least it had a great touch mode, and was a pleasure to use on my Dell 2-in-1 in tablet mode.
Edge is just awful - no touch mode, and SLOOOOOW. Try to go do disqus.com and be logged in and type a message, it is almost impossible because every keystroke lags. In Firefox and Chrome, I have none of these issues.
Also, Edge crashes way more frequently than anything else.

Overall, Windows 10 is actually pretty great, arguably better than 8.1, but Edge sucks big time.

 

[orlbuckeye]

Well Edge is designed for HTML5 websites if your having issues it's probably a legacy web site and use the open in Internet Explorer option inside of Edge.

 

[MikeSo]

Well Edge is designed for HTML5 websites if your having issues it's probably a legacy web site

Do you even know what you just wrote means?

 

[odin09]

I am with those who have had no problems. I upgraded two laptops and love windows 10. Windows 8 and 8.1 drove me crazy, I hated using it. For me 10 is damn near perfect so far.

 

[anon(5327127)]

Honestly, I've been an avid Microsoft supporter for a while now. You could say since I was 5 years old playing with MS-DOS on my father's fancy new Compaq PC. But I'm ready to say that I'm fed up with the new Windows. As far as I'm concerned, at the end of the day - it's become harder to use a computer rather than easier.

Edge sucks right now. It's the slowest browser of anything I've ever used to since XP. Yeah, I'm sure it will get better but so they say will all the other apps on 10. I want to open my calculator real quick to crunch some numbers? It sometimes never makes it past the splash screen. I want to open up a picture off my hard disk? The photos app takes a solid minute to load. These are things that should've been solved in 1990. It has actually gotten more frustrating to use a computer than it used to be since I installed Windows 10. Edge crashes all the time, scrolling sucks, some pages are just not functional that are just fine in other browsers. It's not what was promised.

This is just unacceptable from such a large software corporation. I think it goes to show that software is in trouble. If Apple is taking over then we're screwed. Gone will be the days of people who know how to use a command prompt. I'm probably just going to revert to 7 and be like one of the other old guys who are stuck in old technology and we swear that it is better. But I've come to realize it's true. As much as I wanted to love Windows 10, I actually I hate it. All I can say is that things are broken now that didn't used to be, and not much has gotten better if anything.

Let's cross our fingers for Windows 11.

Yet I've carried on working and using Windows 10 at home without an issue. Odd really.

P.s All I seemed to read was 'Blahh blah edge, blah' and that's about it. Use internet explorer if Edge isn't ready yet.

 

[jomarr]

It's better imo.

W10 is fantastic, probably the best Windows ever.

I'm really afraid of what W10M will be though. I know we're still in the Tech Preview phase but in a little over 3 weeks, we'll be seeing the new phones and W10MP still feels like an Alpha. Aesthetics and UI though, it looks great.

 

[michaelaf]

There's a lot I like about win 10 but I didn't create this thread to talk about my likes.

My major complaint is that while there are some nice new features, a lot of things that used to work just fine are now bug ridden. I have experienced as well that the start menu does not open at times or has a delay. That's a core component of how the user has interacted with windows for years and now it is unreliable. Plus it's clumsy the way they list the "all apps" for desktop users. I liked how it used to be closely integrated with the file system. It still is in a way but it's become fragmented .

I'm also not crazy about the app model. Overall they have a flimsy feeling to them, whereas win 32 felt more concrete and reliable. Plus they've forgotten to use keyboard shortcuts for navigating the apps, something I'm big on as a power user. And if there are in app keyboard shortcuts then they're less intuitive and I dont know what they are. For example on a win 32 app pressing alt gives you keyboard access to the menu bar up top. With the new apps I should be able to press alt to access those clumsy hamburger menus at least.

The list goes on. I'm a software developer and at the end of the day I need something reliable in which I can multitask and work very rapidly on. Using windows 10 has left me feeling pretty frustrated at times. I think Win 7 was much better suited for power users. Except for virtual desktops which I appreciate very much.

 

[fdruid]

My system works like a charm on Windows 10. In fact, all five PCs I've upgraded to Windows 10 so far run better or the same with Windows 10.
Especially my main desktop, it runs smoother even, it seems to take advantage of the SSD.

Maybe the OP has a PC with dated specs, or should make a clean install. On one machine I opted to make a system Refresh and it solved all the issues it had. Junk carries over from one installation to the next. I recommend to do a Refresh even though you have to reinstall all the apps.

 

[michaelaf]

A few other things...

I use auto-hide the taskbar on my 13" laptop to save some screen real estate. Sometimes it gets stuck and doesn't auto hide, or it pops up while I'm doing something because Cortona wants to say hi and ask if I need anything. No I don't need anything Cortona! Go away! I'll find you when I need help! This doesn't happen often but usually right after I start my PC and have loaded say the web browser before Cortona got loaded. I can live with that.

I think I've noticed more issues than others because as I mentioned I'm a developer and a power user, and I work very intensely and for long hours at a time. I know the ins and outs of the operating system. Yes I know what I'm doing when it comes to hardware, software, and maintenance. I'm professional with a degree in computer science.

All of these minor bugs and inconveniences add up to me working slower than I used to be able to. I agree that overall it's a good OS but it's too unpolished. I feel like I'm still on the tech preview and we're waiting for the official release in October (which it should've been). I do think it will get better though in future updates. But for now I shall create this thread to express my frustration.

 

[michaelaf]

And yes I think part of my problem is that I haven't done a fresh install. My laptop has been running the tech preview since March and should probably get a clean installation. I'm sure it will resolve some of the issues but I don't see it curing everything. My work machine I upgraded from Windows 8 and it has gotten severe problems with system processes using 100% disk at times, which renders it virtually unusable for a while. I'm hoping that a clean install there will resolve that issue as well (fingers crossed).

And actually as I was just writing this I opened up the start menu and it wouldn't close. Had to restart explorer with task manager. It's the little things that were working in Windows 98 that are broken now that I'm talking about here.

 

[Greg C]

There won't be a windows 11. Windows 10 is the last one. Honestly, Microsoft should have just taken their time and released the OS in October/November with phones and xbox. Things will get better with updates but the issues make Microsoft look so bad.

Why do you believe there won't be a Windows 11? What do you believe the next Windows will be called or the future of Windows in general.

 

[th34monk3ys]

Why do you believe there won't be a Windows 11? What do you believe the next Windows will be called or the future of Windows in general.

Microsoft windows 10 is a service not an o/s it will always get updates, Microsoft stated last o/s too