Is IE inferior?

[Michael Alan Goff]

There is only one thing that I found it good at. That was downloading another browser.

Two posts in the span of less than five minutes, and a name that has iOS in it.

I'm shocked to know you don'r like IE :|

 

[sahib lopez]

There is only one thing that I found it good at. That was downloading another browser.

Yikes that's kinda sounds like any hater would say because they hate ie in general :/


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[Michael Alan Goff]

Yikes that's kinda sounds like any hater would say because they hate ie in general :/


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Thinking about it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV6Q1epVaQg&safe=active

 

[xandros9]

There is only one thing that I found it good at. That was downloading another browser.

That used to be a decent joke, but it's really beginning to become old and overused

 

[sahib lopez]

That used to be a decent joke, but it's really beginning to become old and overused

And also not a true statement anymore


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[Squachy]

Would you say third party sites, smaller sites, have a problem because of IE or because people are starting to code more to quirks? We know that Firefox is catering to WebKit quirks, so there's that. Opera has Blink, which is WebKit with some changes, and so does Chrome. Safari has normal WebKit.

I thought that was always the reason, every browser except IE supports or utilizes webkit.

 

[Reflexx]

IE tends to stay with accepted web standards.

There are some web developers that don't like web standards, so they want to use features that are not accepted standards. These features may be supported in Chrome or Firefox. But they are not supported in IE because IE is used in a lot of government offices, so they won't put stuff in there unless it has been fully vetted.

So by "inferior" it depends what you mean. Is it less capable when dealing with sites that aren't made to accepted web standards? Yes.

But is it more secure because of that? Yes.

 

[mgkeath]

IE tends to stay with accepted web standards.

There are some web developers that don't like web standards, so they want to use features that are not accepted standards. These features may be supported in Chrome or Firefox. But they are not supported in IE because IE is used in a lot of government offices, so they won't put stuff in there unless it has been fully vetted.

So by "inferior" it depends what you mean. Is it less capable when dealing with sites that aren't made to accepted web standards? Yes.

But is it more secure because of that? Yes.

Kind of funny when you consider that the big knock on IE was it's lack of support for standards. Now the others' try and blaze that path and get praised for it by many. People are funny that way, their views are determined more by what they're told than what they know.

 

[Michael Alan Goff]

I thought that was always the reason, every browser except IE supports or utilizes webkit.

That should not be acceptable. Why is it acceptable now when it wasn't acceptable in the early 2000's with IE6? People throw around that it's because WebKit is OSS and that anyone could fork it ... but only Google has. And even then, they're still keeping it able to see the WebKit quirks. So, in the end, we're still coding to the quirks of a certain rendering engine.

 

[berty6294]

I keep trying other browsers, but IE11 is so much faster and reliable than other browsers. May not have been the case with previous versions, but 11 is such a huge step forward! Its just icing on the cake that it syncs with my phone and tablet too

 

[Studio384]

Kind of funny when you consider that the big knock on IE was it's lack of support for standards. Now the others' try and blaze that path and get praised for it by many. People are funny that way, their views are determined more by what they're told than what they know.

What's even more funny is that the stuff that now comes to HTML5 and CSS3 was originaly planned years ago, and IE6 supported it very well, until Mozilla came along and yelled: "We don't want this!" and it was to late for Microsoft to rewrite everything they did in IE6. Which is basicaly the story that kicked of the IE hate.

 

[Czipperz]

To tell you the truth the way that you have to program for it in CSS REALLY sucks. That is because there is 3 different IE systems of layout. On the other hand, Chrome, Opera and Safari all use the same layout and Firefox is ever so slightly different that you can mostly just copy-paste your code. So from a web developers perspective it really sucks to have to program for it. Also lots of people hate it because they can't get over how bad it USED to be.
From a consumer's perspective, however, the major problem with the W8 version is nobody knows how to use it. I know allot about W8 before I got it, so it was fine to use for me, but when I use a browser, I am primarily surfing with Work on the other side of my screen, and that isn't possible in W8. Now that 8.1 was come out, it is totally possible to do, but I already use Torch Browser for all my main data consumption. To tell you the truth I think I even uninstalled IE. One of the reasons I use Torch is because it is a Chromium browser. This means it has every feature of Google Chrome (another Chromium browser). It also features download buttons for all content, a free torrent down loader, a share button, and panels where you can share anything on the web by dragging and dropping. The downloads are auto-accelerated by splitting into multiple parts. It is in general very awesome.
Personally, I don't care what browser you use because as of W8.1 there is basically no speed difference that is noticeable on mid to high grade machines. Also W8.1 allows for screen splitting in a custom ratio, so that eliminates the problem I wrote of above.
Allot of people are also religiously against Bing, which I don't get because Bing is my search engine of choice. If you use it, you can even get paid (I have earned $15 no joke).
So the main problem boils down to people not generally liking Microsofts products even when they are the same or better.

 

[Michael Alan Goff]

To tell you the truth the way that you have to program for it in CSS REALLY sucks. That is because there is 3 different IE systems of layout. On the other hand, Chrome, Opera and Safari all use the same layout and Firefox is ever so slightly different that you can mostly just copy-paste your code. So from a web developers perspective it really sucks to have to program for it. Also lots of people hate it because they can't get over how bad it USED to be.
From a consumer's perspective, however, the major problem with the W8 version is nobody knows how to use it. I know allot about W8 before I got it, so it was fine to use for me, but when I use a browser, I am primarily surfing with Work on the other side of my screen, and that isn't possible in W8. Now that 8.1 was come out, it is totally possible to do, but I already use Torch Browser for all my main data consumption. To tell you the truth I think I even uninstalled IE. One of the reasons I use Torch is because it is a Chromium browser. This means it has every feature of Google Chrome (another Chromium browser). It also features download buttons for all content, a free torrent down loader, a share button, and panels where you can share anything on the web by dragging and dropping. The downloads are auto-accelerated by splitting into multiple parts. It is in general very awesome.
Personally, I don't care what browser you use because as of W8.1 there is basically no speed difference that is noticeable on mid to high grade machines. Also W8.1 allows for screen splitting in a custom ratio, so that eliminates the problem I wrote of above.
Allot of people are also religiously against Bing, which I don't get because Bing is my search engine of choice. If you use it, you can even get paid (I have earned $15 no joke).
So the main problem boils down to people not generally liking Microsofts products even when they are the same or better.

Most people don't dislike Microsoft or like it. :\

 

[amagner]

We had to tell users to stop downloading chrome at work. Most of them didn't know it while doing an upgrade and didn't uncheck the box. But we found out that when it loaded, those computers dropped all their mapped drives and network printer connection. Uninstalled chrome and it was fine.

Did you ever find the cause of the network disconnect issues? Never heard of that and I work in a health system environment with alot of custom stuff going on which requires different browsers at times.

 

[tgp]

We had to tell users to stop downloading chrome at work. Most of them didn't know it while doing an upgrade and didn't uncheck the box. But we found out that when it loaded, those computers dropped all their mapped drives and network printer connection. Uninstalled chrome and it was fine. So it's not allowed and if there is a site that IE just won't work on, they can have firefox installed.

I never heard of that happening with Chrome. I work in a corporate environment (using Windows Server), and I also work in support for many clients. A lot of us at work, and our customers as well, use Firefox and/or Chrome. I personally use IE at work only for our SSRS reports. They don't work well with other browsers. I can view them on Chrome, but I can't print them other than using the browser's print function, which doesn't render them correctly.