Well your argument was that if they are exclusive, you'll buy them, but if they are on PC, you'll just buy them on PC. So if they had a store with exclusives, the effect would be basically the same, no?
Sony is said to be leasing xstream from microsoft, so probably you'll be able to play all those games with a subscription and good internet via PC. So this isn't just theoretical, if playing those exclusives is your sole reason for having the console, that may be redundant soon.
Well, Sony already have a streaming service where you can rent some of it's games on PC. It's called PS Now and they have been doing for years now.
But you know what? Renting has never been a thing for me. I buy my games. Unlike some people renting games isn't something I suddenly become crazy about. I mean if all cared about was play the game and that's it i could rent the console and the game for 1-2 weeks and play a game but that's not how I play.
Can't say I've played any of those. I think though Xbox studios, and all it's subsidary studios have released more games than that recently.
I'm talking about major first party games released since January 2018.
Just 4 games. SoT, SoD2, FH4 and Crackdown 3. Do you have others?
You literally just said above, that the consumer wants the platform with more games. Why does this suddenly not apply to a subscription service?
Because a renting service that mostly have old arcade multiplats cannot be compared to a console having more games argument.
And why does it impact quality, in your mind? Surely, having BETTER games in a subscription service, that people want to play, is more important than simply having LOTS.
I already told you why. Looks at game pass ads. The slogan "more is better".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv8MqIR0wxI
I've already mentioned 3/4 recent major MS games. When these games do badly MS fans tells us "it's ok, it's only 10 bucks on game pass". Since game sales is no longer the priority, the number of people playing the game is. (see MS's recent announcement). Reviews and launching a quality game doesn't seem to be the priority compared to when you only sell games.
Game pass is a solid reason for choosing xbox, if you want a console.
Is it really? I just wonder how renting mostly old arcade games is that important. Games that again all on PC.
When I buy a new gen console. It's to play new gen games. I wonder how many buy a new gen console to play moslty old arcade games.
I can see your angle here. They buy quite a few studios every year. Perhaps it's a loss investment scenario like netflix. They had 10b revenue last year, but maybe they are spending all of that to grow the business. Still it's a solid business, and if they needed to, they could stop doing that.
You can't say netflix is failing because it's borrowing money. Everyone still generally sees them as succeeding, but they are investing so that their competitors can't beat them.
Same deal with MSFT. If their revenue continues to grow at recent rates, and MSFT continues to reinvest in gaming houses, they'll be well ahead of the competition in terms of profits later on.
https://www.geekwire.com/2018/micros...sony-nintendo/
I told you not revenue. You initially talked about profit but then you show me a link that talks about revenue. These are not the same thing.
MS will never comment on whether the Xbox divsion is profitable or not.
It is likely that it never ever was profitable.
MS insiders believe this:
https://www.cgmagonline.com/2017/08/14/microsofts-xbox-never-profitable-according-report/
You want to compare the XB division to Netflix?
But the problem with this is that XB hardly has the same market share.
It's far from being the market leader. Always outperformed by Playstation and even now the Switch is actually doing a lot better than the XB1.
And even in the PC market, it's WAY behind the competition.
Sorry, but your comparison doesn't make sense to me.
Well there are some exclusives. Xbox has never been soaked in exclusives TBH, even going back to the original xbox. But the selling point here isn't just playing on PC, xbox games. It's playing on any device, xbox game pass games. Not just stream from your device, or stream to specific devices ala playstation. It's unbound, or at least will be.
I think eventually playstation will go a similar way, with their sub service if game streaming is successful.
I'm sorry but what are you talking about? PS already has streaming service, renting service, remote play, cross play, cross buy...
Can you name all these service that the XB has that the PS doesn't?
It's not like these sorts of games have several wildly different endings, generally speaking (not talking about specific examples).
But you did take examples when you named games. I mean Witcher or Fallout have mostly different endings depending on choices. Same for few you mentioned. And even if it has only one ending what's wrong with that? Story driven games is a genre.
If you want some games with quite a few different endings depending on player choice, try the Quantic dream or supermassive games...
IDK if that's sound logic. I think console buyers will be attracted to numerous factors. In terms of games, they might prefer the console which has the most titles of their particular genre liking. And in particular, for the best price. If one liked say, rpgs of a non-japanese flare, xbox might be a solid choice. Likewise if they preferred japanese style rpgs, playstation might be a solid choice.
The problem with a statement like this is because of the big difference between the two. You cannot say that the XB has more non-Japanese RPG. That's not true. The PS4 has more in almost every genre. Whether it's single player or games that has multiplayer.
The only one genre where XB may be ahead is the racing genre, where MS just keep releasing Forza every year.
You are trying to make the PS sound like a console that is packed with Japanese oriented games and only have that. But that is totally misleading. While it does have Japanese games, it also have WAY more western exclusives that the XB1.
You started talking about the various reasons people buy a new console.
Media center? Ok but we are talking about future XB console. Isn't the XB1 or PS4 that you already have enough? You seriously think a lot of people will buy a new gen console for that?
Also when I say the consoles that sold the most every generation is the one with the biggest library and number of exclusives. That's a fact. It's not an opinion.
You can look it up.
They are, they are releasing minecraft games on switch. More coming I suspect. PS, I doubt. But MSFT is leasing them xstream, so they are hardly playing anticompetitive.
So you're going to talk about Minecraft as an example. A game that was created and released on all platforms before MS bought it. They are releasing it on Switch and then add the number of switch players on minecraft in their active live users when they present the numbers...
Oh and for your info, Since you like to name one game, Sony released Journey on PC so there.
afaik, xbox only needs a controller, whereas stadia requires a controller with inbuilt SoC
What is inbuilt SoC? And do you have a link for that?
IDK about sony, or their contracts, but first party distributors often have fairly restrictive contracts. If the makers of horizon zero dawn wanted to make say, a RTS strategy game, and then a complicated tactical top down RPG, and leave off another true sucessor for 5 years, they probably couldn't.
That's literally what they did. Moving from an FPS like Killzone to an action RPG.
Look at Sucker Punch moving from inFamous to Ghost of Tsushima.
In the meantime, 343i is making their Nth Halo, Coalition makes more gears and turn10 makes yet another forza...