I really hate that argument. There may be some truth to it, but I don't think MS should brand their product just to avoid confusing the 2% out there that don't get it.
Within the next 5 years, almost all the apps available on Desktop will be available on all devices. Desktop will just be reserved for those niche programs like AutoCAD, etc.
Even Adobe is beginning to port their portfolio over to ARM devices.
No, you will not. For the current Windows apps to be able to work on the phone, developers will have to turn them into Universal apps first. Currently, few are the apps that are Universal as many developers simply don't want to spend their limited time into rewriting their apps so that they'll work too on a OS that is in less than 4% of phones worldwide.
Also, NONE of the desktop apps will work on your phone. Desktop apps are x86 based. You simply can't run them on a mobile engine.
Microsoft will still have to do A LOT of work convincing developers to start releasing their Windows programs in the form of an app instead of an x86 program. And many of them simply won't do it because, in case you haven't noticed, the vast vast majority of Windows users (both private and enterprise) are on Windows 7, not Windows 8 or 10.
They'll first need to manage to pass all those Windows 7 users to Windows 10 for developers to start caring. AND even then, as most people use Desktop and not Metro, it's still not very clear that they'll join in on the "use an app instead of a program" thing. They'll need a miracle, given the fact that they still haven't managed to make people move away from Windows XP.
Windows 10 and Windows Mobile 10 will be an important step towards a cohesive OS experience. HOWEVER they will NOT be ONE operating system. They'll still be two different OSs that will require different programs. Microsoft's work is just about to begin.
Seriously...LOWER your expectations on what Windows 10 will be. Way too many people around here are putting a ton of hope and dreams on Windows 10 and they'll be severely disappointed.
Lol, I'm fully aware that x86 apps don't run on ARM and that it will take a while for existing devs to move to universal apps. But most Windows users only need some of the basic apps that are available on Windows. Apps that are easily done in the Universal environment.
My Dad and I have a client that he built an enterprise application for years ago. And now they need some updates and improvements. Guess how we're building it? Universal app. I also have another client that currently has a WinForms application we're making updates to. They plan on switching to Universal app in the next year or so.
You also forget that most good Windows apps are written in the .NET environment. An environment that is still very much present in Universal apps. Moving to a Universal app is not nearly as difficult as you think. And Microsoft keeps making it easier. They're even working towards being able to port your Universal app to iOS and Android.
Here's an example of a desktop app that has recently migrated to a Windows 8 app. Live Interior 3D Pro used to just be a OSX Desktop app, but they've now made a Windows 8 app and it's fantastic. This is a 3D rendering program...
Live Interior 3D for Windows ? Overview
In addition, many of the applications people are using are Web based now. So they can be available on anything. And since Microsoft made Web languages (HTML/CSS/JS) first class citizens in the Universal app environment, it's much easier to make a Windows app from that web based version.
So I know you like to poo poo on Windows 10, but you also way underestimate the speed in which the market is Changing.
I bet if you listed out the top 30-50 Windows applications used today, you'll find most of them are pretty easy to move over to Windows Universal apps if they haven't been already.
But most Windows users only need some of the basic apps that are available on Windows.
I was speaking more on a common use / marketing perspective, while any other time I would avidly praise Windows Phone, that's all. But fine, I'll accept your point and will never waste anyone's time posting here again. Thank you and take care.Has this community become that shallow that some are complaining about the name? I can't think of a dorkier name than Android yet I don't see our sister publication running threads bemoaning a name change. Can I get y'all some cheese to go with the whine?
Funny thing is I used to defend the forum when others pointed out that it's now become a haven for whiners...now I gotta admit defeat and throw in the towel. Windows Central has in fact become a haven for whiners.. I mean c'mon.. Users complain bitterly for every little thing. I've just come to accept it, and started frequenting other Windows focused forums..
I'm not leaving Windows Central forums...I'd prefer you stayed. There is always the chance that you may have the answer to a problem I'm having. That's what makes these boards work, but I totally get your point.