Liquidless cooling for the 950XL?

[Jazmac]

A lot of people think it's 'liquidless' just because it doesn't have anything in it, when the fact is that the heat pipe has a wick structure which holds the liquid. This gives it the clay-like texture seen in the video.
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Now that you know there's a wick structure in the heat pipe, here's an overview.
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This is also why the phone chassis is not made of metal, otherwise it would hurt the user (HTC One M9 anyone?)

Newman!!

 

[Mesbah]

Hey folks, thanks a lot for awesome surgical & autopsy information.:excited:

 

[Visa Declined]

The "real" heat pipe essentially is a vapor chamber. No other phone has one.

Wrong. Sony was putting heat pipes in their phones before Microsoft even made the 950XL.

Xperia Z5 using dual heat pipes to control thermal performance? [Update] | Xperia Blog

 

[Giddora]

Yes... They used regular heat pipes which didn't help the previous phones with their throttling problem... Microsoft uses a new form (for mobiles) to cool their phones which doesn't make them throttle since the temperature is kept cooler.

 

[Kram Sacul]

I'd be more concerned that the 950XL bends like a stack of wet magazines. Try doing that with a 920 or 930.

 

[Giddora]

They do say it is remarkably sturdy though... So you might be a few miles off on that comment.

 

[Giddora]

Wrong. Sony was putting heat pipes in their phones before Microsoft even made the 950XL.

Xperia Z5 using dual heat pipes to control thermal performance? [Update] | Xperia Blog

Sony are using standard heatpipes... Look at the difference in cooling. The first Z-model from Sony using the SD810 lost more than 30% of it's power while being used which indicates a failed cooling solution.

 

[Krystianpants]

Wrong. Sony was putting heat pipes in their phones before Microsoft even made the 950XL.

Xperia Z5 using dual heat pipes to control thermal performance? [Update] | Xperia Blog

It's not a vapor chamber though. It's a standard heat pipe using copper. There area different types of heat pipes. Read up on them. . Again look at the review. The tests speak for themselves.

 

[Krystianpants]

I'd be more concerned that the 950XL bends like a stack of wet magazines. Try doing that with a 920 or 930.

That's the point of gorilla glass 4. By having more flexibility it's capable of absorbing force better.

Although it becomes less scratch resistant, but handles falls better.

 

[gpobernardo]

Could it be something like this? Here goes: As CPU load increase, heat generated are vented out(depends on phone design, though), in the same state, cold air gets pulled/sucked in, due to a lower pressure and lesser surface area and device gets cooled down quickly. A process similar to how liquid coolers whether AIO or using custom distilled water for cooling the cpu.

That process, my friend, requires a compressor - an energy intensive device. It's not easy to create pressure gradients (for the purpose of cooling) in a small space.

And then suddenly...... Everyone is a scientist!

Oh, you just might be surprised. :wink:

Lol sorry, not scientist/engineering central here Just didn't want you to start thinking too hard but thanks to @gpobernardo for his/her time

You're welcome - I hope I wasn't too late, at least before things become a chaos of assumptions.

 

[TheChazas]

Tried both L950/XL phones, pushed hard enough and it not even bended, of course with more pressure applied you can break anything. Seen this video long time ago, and back then to me it seemed like phone was prepared for it, unscrewed or something, no idea, seemed really fakish, same trending agenda how bad both 950/950XL phones are in every aspect.

 

[Jcmg62]

For real?!?! He takes a perfectly good phone and purposefully destroys it....what kind of a spoilt society do we live in....

 

[Jazmac]

For real?!?! He takes a perfectly good phone and purposefully destroys it....what kind of a spoilt society do we live in....

Which makes you wonder about the legitimacy of the points being raised. Follow the money. Leads back to the verge. lol.

 

[kingjah]

he originally posted the video as "fake water cooling", "but later changed it to liquidless" after WP fans gave him a hard time. However as a long time Subscriber I believe him to be a fair reviewer.

 

[Kram Sacul]

That's the point of gorilla glass 4. By having more flexibility it's capable of absorbing force better.

Although it becomes less scratch resistant, but handles falls better.

I'm referring to the actual housing of the phone. A high end Lumia shouldn't be that easy to bend.

 

[Thomasmas]

Tried both L950/XL phones, pushed hard enough and it not even bended, of course with more pressure applied you can break anything. Seen this video long time ago, and back then to me it seemed like phone was prepared for it, unscrewed or something, no idea, seemed really fakish, same trending agenda how bad both 950/950XL phones are in every aspect.

And because of that reason he actually comments very positively on the durability and general build quality of the phone?
Seriously, just watch some of his other videos and how much pressure he applies in the bend tests. Not everything is a conspiracy...

 

[Samir Kumar2]

The thing is THE LIQUID is in solid state and once the processor gets heated then it converts to liquid and flows through the pipe to dissipate the heat so while cutting the Liquid Cooling pipe u cant get the liquid out of the box

 

[SL2]

Reminds me of the old story of the Emperor's new clothes.

Just make a hole in a laptop heatpipe and you'll see how well it copes with heat.
The fan will start spinning like crazy because of rising temps.

More info about heatpipes here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKrdJpDSowY

 

[ElronTheElder]

Ha, Throttling is Under-clocking.

 

[Cosmyc]

Ha, Throttling is Under-clocking.

In some manner yes but it's not the same.