No Carriers, No Pricing, No Availability

[brmiller1976]

Are you guys forgetting that Windows 8 will be launched officially October 26 and Windows Phone 8 is set to be launched officially a few days after that?

How can they launch these phones right now considering those facts?

Seriously everyone needs to stop complaining and all this "NOW NOW NOW" BS.

I double-checked the date and web site I was on... at first I thought it was February 2009 and I was at PreCentral.net.

NOBODY cares about Microsoft's timetable delays, machinations or rationales. NOBODY is going to say "hey, I need to be fair to Nokia and put off buying a new phone until Microsoft decides it's time to release Windows Phone 8."

They care about getting a cool new device on their carrier. When it comes time to buy later this month, they'll have lots of Android options, several Apple options (on the three largest US carriers) and likely zero Nokia Windows Phone 8 options.

Nobody forced Nokia to have an event. Nobody forced Nokia to hype the **** out of the event, claiming that "starting now, things are changing." Yet it was the same old baloney.

No pricing. No carrier support. No availability announced. Not even a show of the OS, which has yet to be released. Frankly, the worst performance in the last three months of any of the major mobile companies -- on par with what RIM has done.

Once the hot new handsets from the other companies get out with early adopters, the mainstream will buy what the early adopters have (the hot Galaxy S III and iPhone 5), the laggards will buy what the mainstream has (the hot Galaxy S III and the iPhone 5), and Nokia will wipe up a few of the crumbs of remaining market share left after the vast majority of the market buys something else.

It happened with the Pre launch on Sprint, the Pre Plus launch on AT&T/Verizon and the Lumia 900 launch on AT&T. Why would it be any different now?

If you were a developer considering how to deploy your resources, would you be developing for the hot handsets flying off the shelves now, or for the handset that will come "real soon now" in "selected markets" within "the coming months?" (PS, check out the collapse in new WP apps... developers are either bailing or taking a "wait and see" approach. Less app development = fewer apps = less competitive platform).

Microsoft needs to kickstart this thing now. It's bad enough they completely screwed the WP 7.X user base by orphaning our phones... even worse that the announced WP7 was EOL months before launching its replacement. Now we have vapor, promises and prototypes without software demos, no SDK, and "real soon now." Apple and Google have compelling, affordable, ubiquitous product.

 

[deansmilk]

This was a Nokia event to show off Nokias phones. At the Windows phone summit not too long ago MS said WP8 will be out in 2012. I actually thought Belifore or whatever said in the fall?

 

[squire777]

bmiller all i see is pointless whining. You sound more like a shareholder than someone that cares about the phones.

We all knew WP8 is coming out in late October so what difference would it make whether they announced that the phones will be released in late October or not announcing it?

Developers know the release date and not knowing a release date for these particular phones isn't going to drive them away anywhere. I know devs that have traditionally made apps for iOS and Android and their eagerness to develop for WP8 hasn't changed any.

There was no chance that these phones were going to be released earlier than late October so you should so it's probably your own fault for having your expectations up. If you feel more secure with Apple and Google products then you should consider those for your next purchase since it sounds like you can't wait.

 

[ilifecomputer]

very underwhelming reveal. and this is from an all things MS lover. booooo....

 

[doublebullout]

We all knew WP8 is coming out in late October so what difference would it make whether they announced that the phones will be released in late October or not announcing it?

It makes an enormous difference. Don't be purposefully obtuse. The number one question everyone at the event had was "When can I buy one?" followed closely by "Which carriers?" Neither Microsoft nor Nokia answered either question, and executives at both companies had to know these questions would be paramount. "Q4" is too vague. "Q4" doesn't even remove the possibility that these specific phones could be delayed until 2013. It's crazy to not have a good response to these issues when your biggest competitor will be offering preorders within an hour of the end of their event, and delivery within 10 days. Crazy.




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[anon(5339110)]

Well, this is something:

European Nokia Lumia 920 priced and dated
September 6, 2012 | By Surur

European Nokia Lumia 920 priced and dated | WMPoweruser

 

[inteller]

probably leaked that so their stock wouldn't keep tanking.

 

[anon(5339110)]

probably leaked that so their stock wouldn't keep tanking.

Possibly.

Interesting to note, that it appears to confirm that Nokia will be allowed to release their WP8 phones before the official W8 release, and thus before Samsung...