I've also heard a lot about how pleased Verizon is with Nokia. I hope for more phones in the future. I went with the 8X for both my personal and work phone and I couldn't be happier. Just a beautiful phone and I'd pay $200 all day for it, even though my work phone was free and the employee edition 8X is only $100.
Either way, when I can upgrade in July, it'll be hard for me to pick an HTC if some of these rumors are true. A flagship Nokia would win me over, but it has to be as svelte as the 8X or else it's a no go.
Also, a baby blue 822 is in the pipeline and should launch any time now.
No regrets. The phone is fantastic, but I could not have waited and would have pulled the trigger at some point, especially with family having the 822. I'll get the latest and greatest on my next upgrade.MacPhisto... Any regrets on getting the 822 with a possible 822 HD coming or flagship Nokia? I am hoping this info is good. I am due for a new phone in May and can't wait to see what my Nokia choices are!
I just ordered the gray 822 today. Was waiting to see the Samsung Odyssey, but just couldn't wait as my iPhone is busted up and at the moment limping along.
The main reason was your recommendations and I love my sons Nokia apps on his 920. Unfortunately my work only pays for Verizon. The good news is I can upgrade again in a year if I need to, so I will get the latest next fall
I'm reading some exciting things about the 920 VZW variant in this thread and other similar threads. However, there are some things that aren't convincing. So far I've read that it will be slightly better spec wise (i.e. quad core, better camera) and might be available Easterish. And it was initially targeted for a Nov release but got pushed back because AT&T got an exclusive last moment. This argument doesn't make sense. For the sake of argument...let's say the two phones were different in specs (VZW better) to begin with, there was no exclusivity, and were released the same time on both carriers. Why would AT&T even put up with such a scenario? They would be absolutely mad. If it was going to be released the same time then the specs had to be comparable. Nokia is trying to keep both carriers happy and not piss off one and make the other happy.
If the specs are better on the VZW phone then it had to be planned to be released at a later date very early on. By design and not by some reactionary situation. The better phone has to come at a later date to follow the natural progression of technology upgrades. And there is no way that upon finding out about exclusivity VZW asked for a better spec phone and Nokia complied to appease them. It isn't enough time to develop and test the product.
Now, getting to the exclusivity... I don't think I've seen any official statement from AT&T or Nokia talking about the term of the exclusivity. All we have is an official statement saying it's exclusive. And then we have the leaked training video that talks about exclusivity being 6 months. It would be nice if someone can find and post an official statement of 6-month exclusivity. Assuming AT&T has a 6-month exclusive, AT&T would have planned for a certain amount of sales and commited to purchasing those units from Nokia. As pointed out by others, it would be higher volumes upfront and then slowing down. However, even the slowdown would have to be counted. If VZW somehow got their own better version out during the slowdown period then that would hurt AT&T sales. The whole point of exclusivity is to gain competitive advantage and increase revenue as a result of that. AT&T wouldn't agree to Nokia providing a better phone to VZW during that period. Even if there were legal workarounds with different model number series (i.e. 10xx) or specs, it wouldn't be good for AT&T/Nokia relationship long term. It might work this time around but big problems will ensue moving forward. Nokia needs both carriers to succeed so they will do what's fair.
Considering all this, here are my viewpoints:
- If VZW variant has better specs then it was always meant to come out at a later date.
- If AT&T does indeed have a 6-month exclusive then VZW version will come out in May.
- If it does come out at an earlier date then the exclusivity isn't really 6-months. Perhaps a 90-day one or an open-ended one.
Anyways, thanks to Mr. MacPhisto and Honestabebread for providing some insight and info that would otherwise be unavailable to us. Because of that info we can opine here...
I'm glad I stuck with Verizon. I love the direction WP is going and I'm glad Verizon is fully backing it.
Thanks MacPhisto for all the sweet info. I love my 822. It works so well.
Nokia WPs are the only option. The have the build and the features. I'm glad to see Samsung and HTC supporting, but Nokia has proven themselves once again to be quality.
I read this and thought how exciting it was going to be. Then I decided to sell my 822 and give the 920 on AT&T a try. I met the buyer last evening at the local Verizon store to make the activation changes. While this process was ongoing, I asked the young man helping us if they were selling many Windows Phones and his reply was "Not many, none of us in the store know much about them and it's a harder sell than Apple or Android."
I hope Elop's comment come true but Verizon needs to hire some middle age reps to interface with the middle age to older Verizon customers. I think that one older Rep in each store would increase interest in WP8 devices and do their older customers a good service by not selling them Android phones.
Just my 2Cents so ya'll start piling on for my insensitive comment about older customers.
I just think it's unnecessary to say that Verizon needs older reps to cater to older customers. I work for the enemy (Apple), and connect with people from any age range. The problem is, they aren't invested in windows phone sales. iOS and Android built a very large fan base, and now they sell themselves... Windows phone needs support, but not just for the older market.
You just need someone who tries to be a jack of all OSes. Can name the pros and cons of each, and let the phones sell themselves.
Precisely. I think WP8 can be an easy sell if a few kinks are worked out. It certainly will catch the eye.