Surface Laptop vs Macbook?

[anon(9476064)]

Only for the OS and the touchscreen the surface is already the winner...

 

[Keeptechcoolandsimple]

@raycpl
yes! like when apple users vehemently opposed larger displays on iphones (until apple made them larger) or when they decried the stylus (both the surface pen and s-pen until apple made their pencil). there's a reason why the term "isheep" entered the english lexicon so easily.

 

[Keeptechcoolandsimple]

hey ibrah i agree. surface devices allow a user to be more productive because the options available to get things done are greater than on the macbook line. ive watched promotional videos from microsoft regarding the surface pro and how artists work, and its amazing to see what they can do on one device. with a mac, besides the mac device a drawing tablet from wacom or another manufacturer and possibly even another monitor are necessary simply because the macbook line doesnt allow for touching the screen and is not a tablet so its hard to be immersed while holding a laptop monitor. that said, while its great the surface laptop has touch its not surface pro immersive but id still rate the surface laptop higher in terms of how productive one can be.

interesting thought as i was reading this. i think the reason I've been excited about Microsoft recently is because i see a more dedicated move towards convergence of technology - instead of having to rely too much on having separate things for separate things.

 

[Nisarg9694]

How does this new laptop compare to the newest one from Apple's newest laptop?

In some ways you can see Microsoft's rationale in Windows 10 S. The Surface Laptop is irrelevant and actually a compromise in almost every way, but it's just a platform for MS to show off what this is really about - the operating system. This is what they really wanted Windows 10 to be from day 1, but couldn't. This is the next evolution of Windows 10, and will become the standard in the next 2-3 years. This will also be a logical boost for Win10S on ARM, as it's UWP only by default. By this I mean;
A subtle move away from win32, but still keeping it there if you want to pay for it (reminds me of what MS did with Media Center in Windows 8 as a way to say it's still there for a fee, but in reality, slowly strangle it)
A push towards the app store for casual users who don't want to pay the win32 tax, meaning MS take their 30% on sales and increase store revenue.
A nod to developers to say, look, a UWP only x86 device - get writing for UWP, or port your win32 apps over starting NOW
A boost for their own platforms, as out of the box, it's Bing and Edge only
A hefty nudge for MS services and ads, which will litter this O/S (it's essentially free to OEM's anyway)
A challenge to other big developers, saying if you want our customers to use your browsers - rewrite or port them to UWP, as it's the only way they'll be able to access your software.
A boost for education? Probably not. That's not really what this is about, but if they can get these things into schools, and kids get used to it, and use Bing/Edge all the time because they can't use anything else, that's what they get used to, and that's what they then look for when buying their own devices. They are tomorrows adults after all, with money to spend.

In many ways, MS really seem to have given this some thought. Everything they've tried up to this point with Win8/10 etc has failed. They've tried to push it in the direction they want it to go, but nobody is listening. This is probably one of the only things they've got left, and using Win10S is in some ways very clever, in others a huge gamble that could backfire, but at this stage, MS have little choice.

 

[jiovine]

I went to the local Best Buy today and was able to finally put my hands on the Surface Laptop. My first reaction was this thing looks ugly. Not a fan of the fabric cover. No SD card slot was another ding. Screen was nice, Keyboard felt good. I liked that the keyboard was set back and not fully forward - gives you more of a palm rest. Disappointed there is no finger print reader. Honestly, if I were to spend the money, I would either get a Lenovo or MacBook Pro. I can do everything I need to do on either for similar money. I am beginning to lean towards the MacBook Pro because I can run Parallels and full Windows 10 Pro and MacOS. Apple hardware tends to last a longtime before you really need to upgrade. Plus, integration with iPhone.

Until MS gets the mobile piece worked out, I'll be on iPhone and prefer the integration and features. iPhoto manages pictures way better than Microsoft.

Just my thoughts and experiences.