Finally got to go hands on with this at the Austin MS store. The phone really is great, but for the price..... no. That camera is sub par for a phone half the price. How much more would it have cost to get the Lumia Zeiss in it if HP and MS were working so "close together " as they claim. Look, I get it that it's driven for business, but cmon. Businesses need nice pics as well as fanboys. Outside of the battery, I didn't see a real difference in performance from my 950xl. Granted I wasn't pushing the phone either. My last gripe is the dual sim.... HELLO MICROSOFT AND OTHER 3rd PARTY PARTNERS!! AT&T is killing the 2g network as of Jan 1 2017. That means your dual sim phone is useless to those with more than one line. MS doesn't support T-Mobile officially, so that's not the excuse to those about to reply and say switch to T-Mobile. This has been known since before this phone was even announced. So what the hell?! We need two 3G radios, it's almost 2017. Anyway, solid phone but no dice for me and my business.