VZW WP8 Update

[theeboredone]

Makes sense. My apologies.

 

[giper54]

I cant remember exactly but from what i can remember from what I have read the reason the iPhone 5 can't do data and talk is because they did not add an extra antenna/radio while HTC and Samsung have.

 

[Hiiiiiiiii]

Why do carriers hate iphone?

 

[cooperma]

Carrier subsidies and lack of control. Macphesto and the honstabred can explain in more detail. ..

 

[giper54]

the carrierS do not make as big of a profit on iPhones because I believe carriers pay the most for iPhones

 

[passntyme]

Assuming an area is provisioned for SVDO. I know that large swathes of the Bay Area are not.

In general, when you're getting data and voice simultaneously on VZW, it's because of the dual radios, not SVDO. iOS doesn't support either SVDO nor dual radio operation, so it's doubly rough over there.

A link to help explain SVDO.
CDG : Technology : Simultaneous Voice and Data (SVDO)
http://www.cdg.org/technology/svdo.asp

 

[Honestabebread]

Example of why carriers hate iPhone:
Apples pays $200 for a 16GB iPhone 4S
Verizon pays an average of $659 per iPhone.
Verizon charges between $450 and $850 full retail or between $0 and $400 on contract.

It costs Motorola $200 to make a Razr HD.
Verizon buys it from Motorola for about $450.
Verizon sells it off contract for $600 or $200 on contract.

The iPhone 4 would NOT be free if it wasn't dictated by Apple.



Also, the Razr HD does SVDO. No idea if the Windows Phones. That's not something Verizon actively trains us on.

 

[cooperma]

disappointed by no real release of dates on VZW...but to be expected with their micro managing...

 

[tk-093]

Yeah... 'by Thanksgiving' makes me a little sad. Time to bug our Microsoft reps and see if they can hook us up early.

 

[Honestabebread]

I don't think youll be waiting much past the 12th

 

[tk-093]

I don't think youll be waiting much past the 12th

I'm Veruca Salt.... I want it now!

 

[Getintothegame]

Honest:

I know you love the 8X - the screen, the way it feels, etc. Would there be anything that lures you at all to the 822?

 

[spiff_p239]

I'm Veruca Salt.... I want it now!

That made me think of the alternative rock band for a second... then I had to remember that she was a character in Charlie & the Chocolate Factory.

 

[Honestabebread]

Honest:

I know you love the 8X - the screen, the way it feels, etc. Would there be anything that lures you at all to the 822?

There are plenty of things that are good about the 822, just none of them are for me.
Most important specs that make the 822 a good choice:
1) SD Card slot
2) Nokia Apps
3) Removable battery (I've never had an issue with built-in batteries but some people are paranoid)
4) Inductive charging


Also, I can't say this enough. While the 822 is definitely a budget phone and looks/feels cheap, it isn't nearly as ugly as the photos that have leaked. It's a little charmer in person.


EDIT: I've learned that the black and red 8X are exclusive to Verizon, so that means T-Mobile and AT&T will only carry the yellow and blue. Kinda sticks because I know a lot of people who thought the yellow 8X was sweet, but I'm probably gonna go red.

 

[spiff_p239]

As much as I typically don't like a flashy phone, I was really tempted to pick up a yellow 8X. It just looked really awesome to me for some reason.

 

[Getintothegame]

There are plenty of things that are good about the 822, just none of them are for me.
Most important specs that make the 822 a good choice:
1) SD Card slot
2) Nokia Apps
3) Removable battery (I've never had an issue with built-in batteries but some people are paranoid)
4) Inductive charging


Also, I can't say this enough. While the 822 is definitely a budget phone and looks/feels cheap, it isn't nearly as ugly as the photos that have leaked. It's a little charmer in person.

The other thing too is the gyroscope, but that's somewhat minor. Apparently (?) the 8X doesn't. Can you confirm or deny? Apps like Photosynth need it, I believe.

 

[Honestabebread]

Gyroscope means nothing to me so I don't know which ones have it.

 

[malachijd]

On the HTC page for the 8x it says there's a g sensor which I guess is a gyroscope

 

[thed]

The other thing too is the gyroscope, but that's somewhat minor. Apparently (?) the 8X doesn't. Can you confirm or deny? Apps like Photosynth need it, I believe.

Photosynth works fine on phones that don't have a gyro, like the Trophy for instance. All phones still have an accelerometer. A gyro just gives you more precise motion sensing. I'm not really sure what apps would take advantage of that, maybe certain games?

I don't get why some people are making such a big deal about the gyroscope, especially when it hasn't even been confirmed that there is no gyro.

Edit: looking at HTC's site, it looks like other phones besides the 8X are listed as having a 'Gyro Sensor.' So it looks like there is indeed no gyroscope. But I still don't think it's a big deal.

 

[power5]

Verizon is the only carrier to have the data sense web browsing at launch. Pretty neat feature for those that have bandwidth caps and WP8 is the only OS to have such a feature. What I really like is that data sense shows how much data each of your apps are using. Not sure if android does that, but pretty positive that iOS has nothing like that.