So do I. I wasn't talking about finding my way around a device, but about what I find visually appealing. Purely from a utilitarian point of view, I can learn to use any piece of software. I can get used to any inconsistent and cluttered mess of a UI if I must. A clean UI that consistently follows a set of rules, just makes that task enjoyable, rather than a chore.
You've given up on the idea that a UI can simultaneously beautiful, functional and compact. I have not.
You'd have thought MS learned their lessen when they tried to bring Metro, that was designed for small screens, to W8 which is used on large screens. That didn't go well. This is the exact same mistake in reverse.
Maintaining design consistency across completely different devices just for the sake of consistency isn't worth anything. That's just counterproductive and asking for trouble.
I want to start a new thread about this but I think it is too soon but after reading most of the threads in last 12-18 hours, I think we will need a mass movement. We will need this as in nicely articulated feedback as soon as we grab the preview on our phones. We need to let Microsoft know this isn't the "user experience" we want even though they are showering us with so many new features we've been moaning about. For some reason, the way they've repeated on and on that "you insiders" made it happen, I want to believe, they will hear us.
Can we here at WPCentral, have a team of dedicated Moderators, Ambassadors and Community members active on social media - lobby for active voting? I think we can do this. I will start this thread later once the preview hits our handsets, but basically a massive thread, with a new poll everyday (heck even a new sub-forum) with new thread, new poll every week - about a feature people are happy or unhappy about and then we decide to create a feedback that gets massively voted up or down and we keep prompting and promoting fellow users.
I think we are the biggest WP community since its birth and now is the time we should actively participate to have the WP as we know it. Remember these, universal apps are very early betas and will change, if we are persistent.
I just want interactive live tile as i was expecting, if i got that then i would be bit happy!
So what's so wrong about wanting interactive live tiles? It would be way more efficient to use interactive live tiles than having to open the app to do everything.Live tiles are not widgets, stop asking for this. They are live because they give you live information pertaining to the app, and the only action they should do is take you to that information (which in my opinion is the feature you should be asking for, MSN news for example shows you an article, but takes you to the landing page when you tap the tile, not the article itself). That's it, no interactive, you have other ways to do the things you probably want to do, and they are more efficient.
I can't remember ever disagreeing with you rocky! ;-)
I'm definitely on board with that! You're welcome to use and improve whatever parts of the post that you find useful. I'll gladly help out too if you want. Just give me a shout.
I don't agree. No!
In that case another group of moderators, ambassadors, famous personalities like the pope and King Jong Un, should be formed to lobby in support of these good changes that Microsoft is implementing.
I'm part of this community, don't try to be my voice and say things I don't agree.
See, this is the beauty about this community. We have those veterans who still remember how magnificent "The gutter" was in its time. We have those who still remember how Windows Phone promised "Glance and go OS". Then there are those who never heard of Metro UI and there are those who think Modern UI is a copycat of Material Design.
I think if those who disagree with say something popular we pick up on various boards of this forum and put it as a poll - can always vote as "I disagree" and then ONLY after our community has spoken, we decide to get it trending on social media and on uservoice to bag the votes (or not).
This will be helpful in two ways. One - new ideas to make Windows 10 better for all. Two - we can discuss. You can't do that on uservoice. You just add idea and people add comments that are not a dialogue. Here we can discuss an idea and then as a community decide to push it forward or bury it.
Of course, I won't be the voice of anyone. "The voice" will be votes on these boards, discussions as well as Microsofties that have joined us recently on Windows Central.
BTW, what do you like so much about hamburger menus?
Agreed. Back in the WP7 days there were enough problems with IOS and Android to have a chance. But MS has spent the last 5 years unifying their platform instead of making the best mobile OS, and now it is too late.I know all of us Microsoft fans would like to see the phone market share increase with the release of Windows 10, but I believe its something that won't ever happen. I say this because people are stuck in the OS that they are already using and don't care enough to move away from IPhones or Androids to try something new and once you pay alot of money for apps and then have to pay again for the apps once you move over it's not worth it. Windows 10 percentage won't grow much in my opinion.