Windows 10 for the Ativ S owners?

[Mitja358]

Hard reset?

 

[megadragon998]

Hard reset?

Yeah, that's my best bet
So here is my review of this build:
Battery is a lot better than the older builds of Windows 10 but it's still waaay too big when using Facebook Messenger or other battery intensive apps.
Phone gets very hot more often than before, no autofocus as pointed out before, APN works perfectly for me, little to none resuming/loading, lock screen sometimes takes a few seconds to show time and calendar etc.
If i remember and discover anything new, i'll add.

 

[Ferdinando Valsecchi]

Hi everybody, my first post here.
I've had my Ativ S for a very long time and finally I've found a nice blog with people keeping it up to date as I do

Just wanted to share my experience: less than a month ago I updated to Redstone using the Lumia 635 credentials (hacking the registry). It did not went well. Long story short: the brightness control completely made it unusable, turning off the screen with no way to recover it if not with a hard reset. The hard reset however brought all kinds of problems, I could not sign in with my microsoft account, so no app to download etc. etc.. I had to completely reset the phone, force the installation of a windows phone 8 rom to recover it and do everything again. I think I have spavlin's rom (I'm not sure to be honest), however it appears like I cannot receive sms for some reason (but I can send them fine).

I was wondering if anyone installed the latest redstone, apparently it's very good, and I'd like to know if someone tried adjusting the brightness (lol). Moreover: do you think that the brightness problem was because I faked being a Lumia 635 that uses a different kind of screen? If so what should we use to update to Redstone? 920/925 seem to have the closes specs to us, resolution and AMOLED screen included, not to mention the processor.

On a final note I always updated to insider just changing the phone manufacturer and not the model name etc (apart when I wanted to try redstone of course) and everything always went smooth. Maybe doing the same again for redston will not mess up with the optimizations of the os, wouldn't it?

Cheers

 

[Tien-Lin Chang]

Just updated my ATIV S to the latest RS build 14385 from the latest TH2 build 485 I've playing for a while. I hacked my phone as Lumia 640 lte(rm-1072) and got the build, installation and everything was smooth. Yes the brightness issue is there (I remember the same issue at early 10536 build?), just don't press the speedy button of brightness and don't set the brightness slide bat below "Dakar" then you'll be fine. Autofocus works well in proshot (dead in default as always) and the store/setting are getting prettier than before. Wifi auto connection after airplane mode is fine and the UI smoothness I feel it's at the same level if not better than TH2 release ring build.

But the most impressive thing I noticed is that the edge are much more stable and fast than any build before. Finally it become a workable browser for this website, it almost feels as smooth as tapatalk app which is really a huge step forward.

So far I feel it's a good build to update, let's hope nothing goes wrong in the next few days.

Btw the default keyboard is really fall behind other platforms, the odds of getting the right word from my swiping is obviously lower than Google's native keyboard@android and MS flow keyboard@iOS(?! Such a shame).

*Although I have no problem getting wifi back online after airplane mode, I still has the "no internet connection" issue as listed here http://forums.windowscentral.com/wi...ssues-since-14383-firmware-16236-35033-a.html Hope next build would solve this issue.

 

[kderh]

Instability with the last few builds

Hi,
since the last few builds (I'm at 494 now) my phone started to randomly reboot ~once per day. When it happens, the screen shuts off and it vibrates like 10 times, then reboots. It often happens while listening to music, but sometimes also while doing nothing inside my pocket. This never happened with older builds, but of course it may also be developing a hardware fault. Didn't hard reset yet. What are your experiences with the new builds?

 

[Ferdinando Valsecchi]

Instability with the last few builds

Hi,
since the last few builds (I'm at 494 now) my phone started to randomly reboot ~once per day. When it happens, the screen shuts off and it vibrates like 10 times, then reboots. It often happens while listening to music, but sometimes also while doing nothing inside my pocket. This never happened with older builds, but of course it may also be developing a hardware fault. Didn't hard reset yet. What are your experiences with the new builds?

No such thing yet on my phone (.494 too) and I listen to music everyday form my device! Try the hard reset!

 

[Tien-Lin Chang]

Instability with the last few builds

Hi,
since the last few builds (I'm at 494 now) my phone started to randomly reboot ~once per day. When it happens, the screen shuts off and it vibrates like 10 times, then reboots. It often happens while listening to music, but sometimes also while doing nothing inside my pocket. This never happened with older builds, but of course it may also be developing a hardware fault. Didn't hard reset yet. What are your experiences with the new builds?

Yes I'd noticed the same thing in my ATIV S but it's not happened everyday, it just like sudden power lost then reboot. So far I haven't noticed that happen again in my Phone (now with build 14390 already) but I guess the rapid update recently is not given enough time to observe this issue. I'll keep wtaching it and make report.

Although I still not feeling any actual functional inprovement in W10M over WP8, the performance and the look is really going to shine on our old device and I'm happy with what happening in my hands

 

[megadragon998]

I've upgraded to .494 and it works smoother than .420, no issues so far.

 

[kderh]

Thanks for your input. After some research I found that the exact same vibration-pulsing restart can be caused deliberately by holding down the power button for a loooong time. So it looks like the power button might slowly become faulty. I opened up the device and wiggled it around a bit. Since then, it hasn't happened again, hopefully it stays this way.

 

[Dave Velo]

With the latest W10 update, have any of you tried getting a BT keyboard to work or is that strictly a firmware problem with ativ s?

Oops! My BT Keyboard works fine with wp8.1.2 now. Just didn't pair it correctly. Anybody have a "really" good reason to upgrade to 10? If not, I'll stay on 8.

On another topic, it would appear that Windows is pushing 10586.29 on my phone whether I like it or not:


I've turned off auto updates. I hope that stops it.

 

[megadragon998]

Do you guys think there would be any way to stay on win10 after redstone release? As i see from this topic its not stable enough and windows 10 is good enough for daily use.

 

[megadragon998]

Yes I'd noticed the same thing in my ATIV S but it's not happened everyday, it just like sudden power lost then reboot. So far I haven't noticed that happen again in my Phone (now with build 14390 already) but I guess the rapid update recently is not given enough time to observe this issue. I'll keep wtaching it and make report.

Although I still not feeling any actual functional inprovement in W10M over WP8, the performance and the look is really going to shine on our old device and I'm happy with what happening in my hands

How is the new build 14390 working? Are there still brightness bugs and battery drain? These and those reboots are keeping me away from redstone :/

 

[Tien-Lin Chang]

How is the new build 14390 working? Are there still brightness bugs and battery drain? These and those reboots are keeping me away from redstone :/

The new build is great in performance. No battery drain in my device but I don't dare to try the auto-brightness control lol. No auto reboot observed. I'm overall like these new RS builds very much.

 

[Ferdinando Valsecchi]

The new build is great in performance. No battery drain in my device but I don't dare to try the auto-brightness control lol. No auto reboot observed. I'm overall like these new RS builds very much.

Did you update with the Lumia 950XL credentials? After the update, can you do a backup and then a hard reset? Last time I did a hard reset on RS1 I didn't have a backup and the phone was unusable, I had to put 8.1 back and upgrade 'till W10M again. After the upgrade (and/or hard reset), do you keep the Samsung Ativ S information or do you leave the Lumia 950XL? I'm concerned about the fact that the scaling is going to be all wrong and I'm wondering if it will affect also other parts of the phone (cpu/gpu) if it thinks to be a 950XL.

 

[Dave Velo]

The new build is great in performance. No battery drain in my device but I don't dare to try the auto-brightness control lol. No auto reboot observed. I'm overall like these new RS builds very much.

Hi Tien,
My ativ s autoupdated to 10586.29. Although I am logged into windows insider, there doesn't appear to be anymore updates available for this phone. The registry was set back to default before updating to 10. I understand that 10586.494 is a public release?

 

[Tien-Lin Chang]

Hi Ferdinando and Dave,

I set my ATIV S as lumia 920 (and keep there) to get the newest 10586 build then I set it as lumia 640 (and keep there) to get the newest redstone build and I didn't do a hard reset after updated. My phone works well besides those known issues and based on the fact that the SoC driver version, modern driver version....etc is the same between wp8/w10m I feel the basic firmware (boot loader/recovery/firmware level driver) is untouched during the upgrade. So I don't think which model you choose to hack will affect the phone itself in current situation.

 

[Dave Velo]

Hi Ferdinando and Dave,

I set my ATIV S as lumia 920 (and keep there) to get the newest 10586 build then I set it as lumia 640 (and keep there) to get the newest redstone build and I didn't do a hard reset after updated. My phone works well besides those known issues and based on the fact that the SoC driver version, modern driver version....etc is the same between wp8/w10m I feel the basic firmware (boot loader/recovery/firmware level driver) is untouched during the upgrade. So I don't think which model you choose to hack will affect the phone itself in current situation.

Many thanks Tien,

It would appear that the 10586.29 build has a problem with sending/receiving SMS and camera focus issue, otherwise haven't noticed anything else that is particularly annoying. I see that the Lumia 920's hardware better matches the ATIV S than the 640xl.

 

[megadragon998]

Many thanks Tien,

It would appear that the 10586.29 build has a problem with sending/receiving SMS and camera focus issue, otherwise haven't noticed anything else that is particularly annoying. I see that the Lumia 920's hardware better matches the ATIV S than the 640xl.

Update to .494 build, the camera focus bug is still there (and will probably stay) but the experience is nearly the same as it was in 8.1.

To the others: I would like someone to list all the redstone pros(features over TH2) and cons(bugs) so i can decide whether to install or not, thanks

 

[Dave Velo]

Hi Ferdinando and Dave,

I set my ATIV S as lumia 920 (and keep there) to get the newest 10586 build then I set it as lumia 640 (and keep there) to get the newest redstone build and I didn't do a hard reset after updated. My phone works well besides those known issues and based on the fact that the SoC driver version, modern driver version....etc is the same between wp8/w10m I feel the basic firmware (boot loader/recovery/firmware level driver) is untouched during the upgrade. So I don't think which model you choose to hack will affect the phone itself in current situation.

Hi Tien,

1) I Changed phonemanufacturer to NOKIA. After that, Windows Insider showed all the rings. Windows Update showed no updates available.
2) Changed phonemanufacturermodelname to Lumia 640. Windows Update still showed no updates available.

BTW, I am enrolled in preview for developers. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong?!?
Cheers!

 

[Tien-Lin Chang]

Hi Tien,

1) I Changed phonemanufacturer to NOKIA. After that, Windows Insider showed all the rings. Windows Update showed no updates available.
2) Changed phonemanufacturermodelname to Lumia 640. Windows Update still showed no updates available.

BTW, I am enrolled in preview for developers. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong?!?
Cheers!

I think you need to change the manufacturer name(Nokia), phone model(lumia 920/640) and variant model(RM-xxx/1072) in order to get recognized. As far as I can record I set my phone as 920 then I stay in release ring then I can't get fast/slow ring back and I changed the three value to 640 then the three rings come back then I got redstone. I'm not sure if you had missed something, better checked.

@megadragon998
The huge improvement in performance/stability of edge/store is worth to give a try. Plus I didn't feel performance lose over .494 . MSFT really put some good effort in this build.