Wireless charging

[Kebero]

Is anyone else here on the fence because of the change to wireless charging standards? I'm okay with the idea of needing a shell, but I'm a bit annoyed that AT&T is moving away from Qi to PMA. While not heavily invested (I've only one pad and one stand), the convenience factor is currently a sticking point. I know I could spend an extra $200 for an international version from Negri, but I really don't know if it's worth it (installed storage space isn't an issue for me).

Anyone else weighing this same issue?

 

[nola75]

Network compatibility trumps wireless charging for me so the international version Negri is currently selling doesn't appeal. To be honest I think I am more on the fence because of the size than charging. Charging just makes it easier to hold off for a couple of months and see what develops.

 

[kevm14]

I don't like cases (especially on a giant 6" phone) so having to add one is a huge irritant. I'll probably just live without wireless charging.

 

[T Moore]

Understand the different variants before you go shopping.

RM-937 Global variant - LTE 1 3 7 8 20 None of these bands are for the US.
RM-938 US variant - 32GB, Qi charging, LTE 2 4 5 17 This will work on AT&T and T-Mobile.
RM-939 China variant
RM-940 AT&T, DTM removed, no Qi charging, LTE band 4 disabled(T-Mobile), 16GB, LTE 2 5 17

Device Details -- Nokia Lumia 1520

 

[superlawyer15]

I really wish someone could spill the beans on this whole DTM thing
Wiki says it allows you to do voice/data at the same time
but M$ has that capability listed on its site

 

[paulxxwall]

I really wish someone could spill the beans on this whole DTM thing
Wiki says it allows you to do voice/data at the same time
but M$ has that capability listed on its site

that's what I want to know if it can do voice and data at the same time

 

[TenTwelve]

Don't all AT&T phones have to do voice and data simultaneously?

 

[BrainCylinder]

Yes, but the data drops back to 3G when you're in a voice call. SGLTE (simultaneous GSM/LTE) is not supported by many phones yet.

 

[superlawyer15]

Yes, but the data drops back to 3G when you're in a voice call. SGLTE (simultaneous GSM/LTE) is not supported by many phones yet.

damn... my Verizon LTE phone stayed on LTE during calls
but all the money in the world wouldn't persuade me to stay with them

I guess its not all that bad, how often do you do both anyway

 

[psudotechzealot]

Understand the different variants before you go shopping.

RM-937 Global variant - LTE 1 3 7 8 20 None of these bands are for the US.
RM-938 US variant - 32GB, Qi charging, LTE 2 4 5 17 This will work on AT&T and T-Mobile.
RM-939 China variant
RM-940 AT&T, DTM removed, no Qi charging, LTE band 4 disabled(T-Mobile), 16GB, LTE 2 5 17

Device Details -- Nokia Lumia 1520

I only see three variants on this website, T Moore.

RM-937, Global variant: EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100, LTE band 1 (2100), 3 (1800), 7 (2600), 8 (900) & 20 (800), LTE Cat 4 (150 Mbps Downlink, 50 Mbps Uplink), HSDPA+ Cat24 (42.1 Mbps), HSUPA Cat 6 (5.76 Mbps)

RM-938, US variant: EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 850/900/1700-2100/1900/2100, LTE band 2, (1900), 4 (1700/2100), 5 (850), 7 (2600) & 17 (700), LTE Cat 4 (150 Mbps Downlink, 50 Mbps Uplink), HSDPA+ Cat24 (42.1 Mbps), HSUPA Cat 6 (5.76 Mbps)

RM-939, WCDMA HSPA+ variant: EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100, HSDPA+ Cat24 (42.1 Mbps), HSUPA Cat 6 (5.76 Mbps)

 

[psudotechzealot]

Speaking of charging, When the PMA wireless chargers & charging shells will be release? Any news on that?

 

[anon(5335877)]

Understand the different variants before you go shopping.

RM-937 Global variant - LTE 1 3 7 8 20 None of these bands are for the US.
RM-938 US variant - 32GB, Qi charging, LTE 2 4 5 17 This will work on AT&T and T-Mobile.
RM-939 China variant
RM-940 AT&T, DTM removed, no Qi charging, LTE band 4 disabled(T-Mobile), 16GB, LTE 2 5 17

Device Details -- Nokia Lumia 1520

AT&T can't disable LTE band 4 for LTE. Their network has LTE on both band 4 and 17.

 

[kevm14]

The MS store clearly states:

LTE network bands: 2, 4, 5, 7, 17 • LTE max data speed DL: 150 Mbps • LTE max data speed UL: 50 Mbps • WCDMA network: 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1900 MHz, 2100 MHz • WCDMA maxdata speed DL: HSDPA - 21.1 Mbps • WCDMA max data speed UL: HSUPA - 5.76 Mbps • GSM network: 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, 1900 MHz • GSM max data speed DL: EGPRS 236.8kbps• GSM max data speed UL: EGPRS 236.8 kbps

I think the limitation with T-Mobile on the RM-940 is the HSPA+ connections, not the LTE.

 

[kevm14]

On the wireless charging front, I think there are more cons than pros to PMA:

Pro: People who would buy a case can consider a PMA case, adding back the intentionally gimped feature while getting a case

Cons: A case on a 6" phone is just too much for me.
The exposed pins is such a klugey way for the standard to work (compare to Lumia 920 Qi integration).

 

[michail71]

From what I understand the physical part required for the charging amounts to a sticker. Probably like those security tags. So I wonder if someone would come up with a caseless solution?

Anyway, I've found wireless charging kind of a pain sometimes. If you need to use your phone and the battery is low a wire works much better.

 

[GSOgymrat]

I only see three variants on this website, T Moore.

RM-937, Global variant: EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100, LTE band 1 (2100), 3 (1800), 7 (2600), 8 (900) & 20 (800), LTE Cat 4 (150 Mbps Downlink, 50 Mbps Uplink), HSDPA+ Cat24 (42.1 Mbps), HSUPA Cat 6 (5.76 Mbps)

RM-938, US variant: EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 850/900/1700-2100/1900/2100, LTE band 2, (1900), 4 (1700/2100), 5 (850), 7 (2600) & 17 (700), LTE Cat 4 (150 Mbps Downlink, 50 Mbps Uplink), HSDPA+ Cat24 (42.1 Mbps), HSUPA Cat 6 (5.76 Mbps)

RM-939, WCDMA HSPA+ variant: EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100, HSDPA+ Cat24 (42.1 Mbps), HSUPA Cat 6 (5.76 Mbps)

So can I purchase a RM-938 that has Qi charging and will be fully functional with AT&T?

 

[psudotechzealot]

So can I purchase a RM-938 that has Qi charging and will be fully functional with AT&T?

As of today I believe the RM-938 is the Att variant so no, but T Moore disagree with me. I guess we will got to wait and see.

 

[GSOgymrat]

Do we know for sure there will be a Qi-wireless charging shell that will work with AT&T phones?

 

[razorguy]

I rarely use wireless charging on my 920 personally. Typically I need to use my phone while it's charging so having to hold the phone and charging plate is annoying at best so I prefer to have the cable attached at the bottom instead to make it more usable. It also adds weight so with a phone this size that is another plus for me. I won't miss it in its current form.

 

[drbanks]

When I saw the 1520 rumors, it was going to be a no-brainer for me, even if it was going to mean spending a couple months trying to get it unlocked and leaving me without HSPA+ compatibility on TMo.

Then AT$T fixed it by halving the storage and leaving QI off, and suddenly it's a brainer.

And BTW, an SD card won't make up the diff when most of what I want to put on it is books from audible.