WP is not just the best but the safest!! 8)

[N_LaRUE]

You have greater odds of being struck by lightning or dying in a car crash than being electrocuted to death by your iPhone or having your Android phone blow up in your pocket.

Just a little perspective, here.

I disagree with the lightning but agree with the car crash. You can easily avoid being struck by lightning by not being out in it. If there is a bad storm brewing, get indoors also don't believe that nonsense about not going under trees, you're more likely to survive under a tree than being out in a field.

Having a faulty device is greater possibility in a world where we carry and use electrical devices. Standards are high in consumer products but all it takes is low quality products and you have issues, which is what we're going to see more of.

 

[N_LaRUE]

True, but using the stock or official chargers and other power equipment, let that be just an external battery will keep you safe from blowing you head off or detonating your pelvis from the pocket.. Although we don't know if she did actually use 3rd party equipment, it's the most possible reason. Oh, and the iPhone is partially made of aluminium, so it electrocuted her easily, the plastic/polycarbonate on WP isn't a conductor, so I agree with the topic creator.. .

I already pointed out the aluminium case as a probably cause as it's a good conductor. 220VAC will easily kill you I'm just surprised that it was at such a high level. That indicates to me that it completely bypassed the rectification at full current. Most likely a fault condition that didn't destroy the charging unit nor trip the breaker and induced a high enough voltage and current to cause death. That's pretty frightening.

I think I'll stay away from third party chargers. Though I normally wireless charge or USB on my work computer so pretty safe.

 

[juanitoriv]

True, but using the stock or official chargers and other power equipment, let that be just an external battery will keep you safe from blowing you head off or detonating your pelvis from the pocket.. Although we don't know if she did actually use 3rd party equipment, it's the most possible reason. Oh, and the iPhone is partially made of aluminium, so it electrocuted her easily, the plastic/polycarbonate on WP isn't a conductor, so I agree with the topic creator.. .

Thank you so much for getting my intended point!!!

8)

 

[juanitoriv]

True, but using the stock or official chargers and other power equipment, let that be just an external battery will keep you safe from blowing you head off or detonating your pelvis from the pocket.. Although we don't know if she did actually use 3rd party equipment, it's the most possible reason. Oh, and the iPhone is partially made of aluminium, so it electrocuted her easily, the plastic/polycarbonate on WP isn't a conductor, so I agree with the topic creator.. .

Thank you so much for getting my intended point!!!

8)

 

[NTUser]

An S3 blew up in a Swiss teens pocket, hurting her.

In case of emergency, your Samsuck Galaxy S3 can be used as an incendiary device.

Seriously though I hope she's ok and it doesn't happen to anyone else.

 

[Chregu]

True, but using the stock or official chargers and other power equipment, let that be just an external battery will keep you safe from blowing you head off or detonating your pelvis from the pocket.. Although we don't know if she did actually use 3rd party equipment, it's the most possible reason. Oh, and the iPhone is partially made of aluminium, so it electrocuted her easily, the plastic/polycarbonate on WP isn't a conductor, so I agree with the topic creator.. .

Why do you compare an OS with a phone (already the OP did this)? WP is created by Microsoft, there is no phone by Microsoft.

The Lumia 925 (partially) or the HTC HD2 are aluminum phones running a Microsoft system and the exploding Samsung was certainly plastic.

Also, why don't we wait until we know more about these cases than just some rumors and assumptions?

 

[smoledman]

I'm so glad to have a Lumia 920!

 

[N_LaRUE]

In case of emergency, your Samsuck Galaxy S3 can be used as an incendiary device.

Seriously though I hope she's ok and it doesn't happen to anyone else.

I'm guessing you didn't read the OP....

iPhone5 killed a 23 y/o flight attendant when she was electrocuted, trying to answer her phone while plugged into the wall.

Sadly she died. We're unsure as to why.

 

[trwrt]

Gloating about people getting hurt or killed just to make some stupid "phone wars" point is shameful. This thread should be deleted.

 

[N_LaRUE]

Gloating about people getting hurt or killed just to make some stupid "phone wars" point is shameful. This thread should be deleted.

I tend to agree with you. My point was to put some perspective that it can happen to anyone. To say one device is 'safer' than the other is pointless.

I don't see it necessarily as gloating though.

 

[WP7_Genius]

I thought as long as you stuck to the official app stores on platforms the all were pretty safe. I never had any security issues personally though.

 

[N_LaRUE]

I thought as long as you stuck to the official app stores on platforms the all were pretty safe. I never had any security issues personally though.

Wrong thread? We're not talking security here....

 

[index1366]

Why do you compare an OS with a phone (already the OP did this)? WP is created by Microsoft, there is no phone by Microsoft.

The Lumia 925 (partially) or the HTC HD2 are aluminum phones running a Microsoft system and the exploding Samsung was certainly plastic.

Also, why don't we wait until we know more about these cases than just some rumors and assumptions?

I'm sorry if you interpreted my words in that way that I was talking about an operating system, I had a machine, a phone in mind, hardware, not software .
The exploding Samsung could be because of a low quality battery assembly, or the whole thing being just faulty. Factory mistake, or just one faulty pack from the whole series? It yould happen to anyone, and I think that LiPo batteries are worse than any battery because of their volatile nature. I'd rather not think about what would happen to that person who had an unibody phone and that phone exploded in their pocket or right net to their head..

 

[Bizarro_Prime]

I'm guessing you didn't read the OP....



Sadly she died. We're unsure as to why.

The article I read said that she'd just got out the bath to answer her phone while it was charging.

 

[N_LaRUE]

The article I read said that she'd just got out the bath to answer her phone while it was charging.

I guess I should have made that clearer, I knew she died of electrocution.

Hearing this information, about the bath, (which I didn't know) shines a bit brighter light on the situation. It explains why the shock killed her. She was fresh out of the bath, so therefore lowered skin resistance which made it easier to get shocked. Also, if the bath was hot, then her body would have been overheated and it's possible that her heart wouldn't be able to handle the shock either.

Going by her age she should have survived the shock however due to these conditions I think she had a lower chance of survival. To explain, your heart goes into fibrillation when you get shocked by around 1amp current (it's actually less bit less but that will do). That being said it doesn't explain why 220VAC was leaked onto the handset in the first place. Which is the main question here. I also personally think that everyone should be careful with their phones (or anything else) while they're charging on mains. I don't think it really matters what you have you could easily get zapped by something.

 

[N_LaRUE]

I'd like to point out something here. I just read some technical details concerning iPhone chargers. It appears that the AC is converted to DC immediately, this means there is approximately (on a 220VAC line) 340VDC, plenty to kill someone. On a real iPhone charger there is a whole load of safety isolation in place, including a fuse. There was also a teardown of a cheap charger showing minimal isolation and no fuse meaning the 340VDC could potentially short to the output.

However, we don't know enough about the situation so this is just speculation.

 

[Bizarro_Prime]

I'm sorry if you interpreted my words in that way that I was talking about an operating system, I had a machine, a phone in mind, hardware, not software .
The exploding Samsung could be because of a low quality battery assembly, or the whole thing being just faulty. Factory mistake, or just one faulty pack from the whole series? It yould happen to anyone, and I think that LiPo batteries are worse than any battery because of their volatile nature. I'd rather not think about what would happen to that person who had an unibody phone and that phone exploded in their pocket or right net to their head..

Not sure if this is relevant, but my wifes S3 died a couple of weeks ago.
She took it in for repair and was told that there was a known fault with the battery that can either cause the phone to stop turning on or overheat.
(Yeah, probably is relevant then).
I guess she was lucky that her phone died in the way that it did. Its come back now so hopefully it should be okay now.

 

[gab1972]

I'm just happy the OP started off as jokingly and then it turned into a scientific debate.

/sarcasm

 

[Chregu]

About the exploding Samsung phone in Switzerland. Here a link to a (yes I know, terrible) newspaper homepage: Handy explodiert : Fanny bekommt keinen Rappen von Samsung

What it basically says: An investigation by the Swiss state material testing and research facility led to the conclusion that the battery was no original Samsung component, and therefore Samsung won't pay anything. The victim wasn't reachable for a comment at this time.

 

[N_LaRUE]

What it basically says: An investigation by the Swiss state material testing and research facility led to the conclusion that the battery was no original Samsung component, and therefore Samsung won't pay anything. The victim wasn't reachable for a comment at this time.

Not surprised and I expect to see a similar thing happen with the Apple incident unfortunately.

Also, going back to the original OP. I got three numbers for you 925...

Speaking as someone who has some training in electrical safety I'll say this: ensure anything you buy is properly supported by standards and marked accordingly. Don't ever pick up or unplug anything with wet hands. Lastly, understand that electricity is very unforgiving, just because something looks 'dead' (meaning a wire(s)/cable(s)) doesn't mean it is, always test first.