The way that SHOULD have gone is:
"You need to remake your app in HTML5"
"But our platform doesnt support inline video in HTML5 yet. Alright, we'll fix that screwup and get back to you"
"Alright"
See what I did there? If MS really had their users' interest at heart (which some of us find hilarious), they would have fixed that. FFS, they've ben dickering over this for months now - don't tell me a company of MS' size cannot push through a crash project to fix this lack of HTML5 inline. What would have happened IMO is this:
WP Team:Hey, we need you guys to fix the inline video issue with IE in WP.
IE Team: LOL, why would we do that for you?
More correctly:
"We're gonna make you re-create your app for our service in HTML5 even though we know your platform is not ready for it AND we're not making anyone else do it"
"Well, thats a bit unfair"
"Stiff s**t"
"How long we got?"
"Yesterday"
"Well, thats REALLY unfair"
<insert evil laugh here>
Again I reiterate: Google does not screw with Metrotube or other 3rd party providers. I am unsure why nobody considers that fact. This means to me that Google does not want to deny WP users, just that they want MS to play by the rules. And the fact that the platform is not ready, after TWO years, is whose fault?
Again I reiterate: Google does not screw with Metrotube or other 3rd party providers. I am unsure why nobody considers that fact. This means to me that Google does not want to deny WP users, just that they want MS to play by the rules. And the fact that the platform is not ready, after TWO years, is whose fault?
Again I reiterate: Google does not screw with Metrotube or other 3rd party providers. I am unsure why nobody considers that fact. This means to me that Google does not want to deny WP users, just that they want MS to play by the rules. And the fact that the platform is not ready, after TWO years, is whose fault?
And the fact that the platform is not ready, after TWO years, is whose fault?
Are there no official Office apps on Android & iOS?
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The problem is that they don't provide an API that allows MS to follow the rules.
Let me break this down for you. YouTube serves up content that is rendered in your browser through the adobe flash plugin or HTML 5 standards.
Adobe flash is prefered because it allows Google to insert advertisements - the flash plugin controls this on the client side. The problem is that the advertisements are not added to the video stream seamlessly on the server side.
Because control of the advertisements is handed off to the flash plugin, that means that devices viewing videos without flash (html 5) are not going to display the advertisements. Just the video. If the advertisement was seamlessly integrated into the video stream then it would work. But that is not the case.
Html doesn't have client side controls for advertisements either. So google is forced to create a server side solution for this. This is not optimal for them.
So when a mobile device, such as WP8, connects and requests a video, YouTube recognizes that the device doesn't support flash and serves the video in html5. However, the html5 standard has no considerations for advertisements. Thus, when viewing a video on WP, you get no ads.
YouTube needs to send the ad as html video first. They don't have a prominent solution for this currently. So they told MS they require ads to work. MS, recognizing the problem, tells google that they need API access for this. Google does not have a public API for ads and won't provide a private one for MS.
So MS is left with three choices. Don't make an app, make an app with no ads, or spend an exorbitant amount of effort modifying how WP handles html5 and set the app up to "scrape" the ad feed and manually insert it into the attempt the play html 5 video.
However, to do that MS would need to update the WP OS because this design is outside of the html5 standards which they have already coded support for.
Then google cries foul and MS is left out to dry.
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That's an HTML5 third party app. Not a Google-made app, just one made using the API properly.You know the market share argument is funny to me. The Nintendo Wii U which barely have any user but yet Google make a YT app for it. Overall, WP user is > Wii U user but no YT app. You can spin the argument any way you want, the bottom line is Google don't want to make a app for WP or support WP for whatever reason.
I just jumped in after seeing this comment, so I'm not sure the entirety of this convo. That being said, metrotube and others also do not play by the rules. They skip ads, allow you to download and save videos, etc. Weren't these two of the few reasons that google denied Microsoft's YouTube app? I think it's more they want to make Microsoft look bad, which Microsoft is perfectly capable of doing on its own.
The problem is that they don't provide an API that allows MS to follow the rules.
Let me break this down for you. YouTube serves up content that is rendered in your browser through the adobe flash plugin or HTML 5 standards.
Adobe flash is prefered because it allows Google to insert advertisements - the flash plugin controls this on the client side. The problem is that the advertisements are not added to the video stream seamlessly on the server side.
Because control of the advertisements is handed off to the flash plugin, that means that devices viewing videos without flash (html 5) are not going to display the advertisements. Just the video. If the advertisement was seamlessly integrated into the video stream then it would work. But that is not the case.
Html doesn't have client side controls for advertisements either. So google is forced to create a server side solution for this. This is not optimal for them.
So when a mobile device, such as WP8, connects and requests a video, YouTube recognizes that the device doesn't support flash and serves the video in html5. However, the html5 standard has no considerations for advertisements. Thus, when viewing a video on WP, you get no ads.
YouTube needs to send the ad as html video first. They don't have a prominent solution for this currently. So they told MS they require ads to work. MS, recognizing the problem, tells google that they need API access for this. Google does not have a public API for ads and won't provide a private one for MS.
So MS is left with three choices. Don't make an app, make an app with no ads, or spend an exorbitant amount of effort modifying how WP handles html5 and set the app up to "scrape" the ad feed and manually insert it into the attempt the play html 5 video.
However, to do that MS would need to update the WP OS because this design is outside of the html5 standards which they have already coded support for.
Then google cries foul and MS is left out to dry.
since ios & android don't use html5 for their apps, does that mean that they are not ready after how many years?