09-27-2012 10:48 PM
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  1. vp710's Avatar
    Really you think they would be confused by the different back, the different colored earpiece the different curve around the front of the device and the name HTC on one and Nokia on the other, camera in a different spot. There was my quick 5 differences picture contest.

    Honestly, to me it is a "candy bar, touchscreen phone with colors" would be about all they could claim.
    Have you followed the Apple vs. Samsung case? I mean, it was so ridiculous that anything is possible now.
    09-24-2012 03:27 PM
  2. theefman's Avatar
    Have you followed the Apple vs. Samsung case? I mean, it was so ridiculous that anything is possible now.
    Difference is Elop may have been misguided by adopting WP but he's not a complete ****, which you would have to be to contemplate such a lawsuit.

    If this was apple though it would be 1000% accurate! :D
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    09-24-2012 03:36 PM
  3. ayejay0601's Avatar
    Keep in mind that WP8 is designed to promote the colored shells. Its not just Nokia/HTC that will have the colored backs---every WP8 device should get them.
    09-24-2012 03:43 PM
  4. crystal_planet's Avatar
    So if the rumor is true (and I hope it isn't) do you mean to tell me you'll dump WP8 altogether? That hilarious! You hate Nokia so much you'd cut off your nose to spite your face? You know there is a Samsung WP8 device, right? You don't have to get a Nokia you know and I wouldn't think that HTC would just bend over and take the lawsuit with a smile.

    Like I said, I hope this is just a baseless rumor but if it isn't, enjoy your G3 - I heard jellybean runs like a dream.

    **Sent from my Windows Phone using Board Express**
    09-24-2012 04:17 PM
  5. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    Microsoft would never allow this to happen, especially because Microsoft and HTC worked together on the 8X, it was Microsoft's idea to call it the 8X, and Microsoft is calling it WP8's signature device. It's "almost the face of WP8."
    09-24-2012 05:13 PM
  6. diaspar's Avatar
    To be honest, the first time I saw 8x and 8s, I was thinking '' wow, it is a copy of lumia design". Yes, it is true that after a while when you look at the details you will realize that certain things are different. But the overall feeling is that 8x and 8s look similar to Lumia 8/9 series.

    why no one or few thinks Apple steals design from others?
    why no one or few accuses Nokia steals design from others?

    when IPhone is considered the best industrial design, Nokia is still able to come up with something stunning while substantially different.

    HTC can certainly do better, maybe they designed 8x and 8s by themselves, who knows, but unfortunately they are late and Nokia gets there first.

    The success of WP is in our best interests, but we should not forget to honor and support the originality and creativity.

    Personally I hope this lawsuit will not happen, but my next phone will be Lumia 920 although I do think 8x and 8s are fine and good looking devices.
    09-24-2012 05:42 PM
  7. Mr. MacPhisto's Avatar
    Never going to happen. MS can pull the rug out from Nokia and prevent them from using WP8 if the choose.

    It's nothing more than smoke. Besides, MS collaborated with HTC to make the phones. The 920 has enough differentiators.
    09-24-2012 05:42 PM
  8. 11B1P's Avatar
    really, so all of you people support IP theft? Then PLEASE go to Android where you will be welcomed with open arms by thieves.

    HTC aped Nokia's designs and they know it. The fact that Microsoft aided in this is a slap to the face of Nokia and their partnership. Nokia got married to MS and the OS and then MS turned around and got a ***** to dress up as Nokia....plain and simple.
    My gosh. It will be very hard now days to make a design that doesn't "look" like another phone. Especially when it comes to candy bar-style phones. If an OEM wants something different, how about a slider or clamshell...
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    09-24-2012 06:24 PM
  9. Winterfang's Avatar
    This must be fake, Nokia can't feel that threatened.

    Also the 820 looks nothing like the 8X. HTC might as well counter sue saying that the 820 was based on the HTC inspire Otterbox defender cover.
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    09-24-2012 06:24 PM
  10. Mr. MacPhisto's Avatar
    This must be fake, Nokia can't feel that threatened.

    Also the 820 looks nothing like the 8X. HTC might as well counter sue saying that the 820 was based on the HTC inspire Otterbox defender cover.
    I was just looking at the picture on the main WPCentral page and the 8X and 920 have different corners, slightly different heights, different widths, and their backs curve in different ways. The WP8 buttons are lower on the HTC and the earpiece speakers are different sizes with the HTC's matching the body color.

    Gosh, they sure both look like cell phones. The HTC has slightly rounded edges while the Nokia has boxed off edges. Front facing camera in different locations and company logo in different places.

    I also think a lot of people are making a big deal out of HTC's use of the Windows Phone branding. Nokia's Lumia branding has built a decent cache already, so I think Nokia may have had the opportunity to use that branding but decided that Lumia was a great, distinctive name. They're right.

    Now if HTC had called it the Lumia 8X then there'd be a problem.
    09-24-2012 06:46 PM
  11. GoodThings2Life's Avatar
    I don't believe this to be true either, and it would be disappointing if they did. On the other hand, Nokia's success with colors on the 900/800 series probably led them to borrow that idea for the new designs.

    I do not, however, feel that the designs are blatant copies, and it was only logical that color choices might overlap (yellow/red) somewhat.
    09-24-2012 06:57 PM
  12. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    They don't look anything alike, besides both are colorful.
    09-24-2012 07:02 PM
  13. Reflexx's Avatar
    It's likely just internet fan vs anti-fan rumor.

    Though if Samsung's Android phones can be mistaken for iPhones, then the HTC 8X and 8S could definitely be confused for Nokias.

    Just sayin'...
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    09-24-2012 10:30 PM
  14. fingrar's Avatar
    The phones are obviously heavily inspired by Lumia, just look at the way HTC designed phones before the lumia and look at their recent phones. Anyways to sue them would be silly i think. Would probably hurt Nokia and WP more than they would gain. Hopefully this is just a rumor
    09-25-2012 06:21 AM
  15. ctafield's Avatar
    I don't believe this for a second... What are people saying that HTC copied from Nokia?

    - The home screen layout? That's Windows Phone.
    - The bright colours of the cases? Inspired by Windows Phone again, just because Nokia were first to show theirs, doesn't mean they can lay claim to coloured cases.
    - The position of the buttons / USB port etc? Sorry, again, Windows Phone standard.

    This is just a very daft rumour imho.
    09-25-2012 06:33 AM
  16. lesnjoro's Avatar
    According to online gossip Nokia considers seeking ban for the upcoming HTC flagship Windows Phone 8X. The Finns accuse HTC of copying the Lumia 820 front panel design for its Windows Phone 8X.
    Remembers Nokia's tweet after the HTC event "It takes more than matching color to match the innovation of the Lumia 920."

    Nokia may file a lawsuit seeking a ban on HTC WP 8X - GSMArena.com news
    09-25-2012 07:00 AM
  17. snowmutt's Avatar
    Okay, I have calmed down since reading the first post and the rumor. Since I have, I am with the majority: Ain't buying it. Microsoft doesn't want this, and they have "helped" Nokia to the tune of maybe tons of millions (rightfully so for the risk Nokia has taken on WP), and they will talk Nokia off the cliff. No sweat, no confirmation, no over reaction on my part.

    But allow me to say: I will NOT buy a Nokia if this is true. Period. Similar in the cell phone world is not the same. Nokia has the right to defend their product, but this would be nuts. HTC has a right to stand out in the crowd as well, and without the ability to throw a UI on WP, physical looks is the main way to stand out.

    If HTC had wireless charging and a touch sensitive device on TOP of the bright colors, then I would be okay. Fire away Nokia. But this would be over colors and a rectangle shape.

    Relaxing... breathing in... only a rumor... not going to happen... breathing out....
    09-25-2012 07:18 AM
  18. Aykazu's Avatar
    I really doubt this is true, Nokia has never been like Apple, traditionally Nokia has not been a patent bully allthough in some cases I wish they were just a little more aggresive...
    09-25-2012 07:35 AM
  19. ryeworth's Avatar
    Innovation should be protected, especially if it's been many expensive years of design iteration and development; however, I'm not sure there would be any winners if Nokia did sue.
    09-25-2012 08:13 AM
  20. Gaichuke's Avatar
    If this story has even smallest grain of truth (which I seriously doubt), there would then have to be some additional yet unknown details involved. One example of such would be that Nokia would actually have evidence or clear proof from industrial espionage conducted by HTC.

    I do understand if Nokia feels annoyed by HTC since they have been working very hard to establish Lumia as the definite, different WP brand and now HTC is jumping next to that brand with very similar approach.

    But to be annoyed enough to feel threatened by that...? I don't think so.
    09-25-2012 08:23 AM
  21. Winterfang's Avatar
    The phones are obviously heavily inspired by Lumia, just look at the way HTC designed phones before the lumia and look at their recent phones. Anyways to sue them would be silly i think. Would probably hurt Nokia and WP more than they would gain. Hopefully this is just a rumor
    The 8X looks like a One X with colors.
    The 8X looks like that Xperia phone.

    Nokia didn't invented colors and the colors aren't even the same.
    09-25-2012 09:08 AM
  22. bobsentell's Avatar
    The very bottom of the story includes the following:
    The news is based on the telephonic conversation we had with someone who works with a legal consultation and advisory firm.
    In other words, the author had a conversation with his brother who works as a custodian in some law office. This article is nothing but conjecture and wishful thinking.

    There's no news here.
    09-25-2012 09:10 AM
  23. poxme's Avatar
    HTC-quietly copying..

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    09-25-2012 09:26 AM
  24. Bearach's Avatar
    I think this is just a "news" piece to get hits.

    However, you do have fanatical Nokia fans saying that HTC has directly copied Nokia. I don't see it. The devices don't look the same, there is a lot of differences, if you look past the colours. Even the colours are different shades, and on the other side you have the fanatical HTC fans trying to bring Nokia into a bad light as a possible "bad guy", I don't see it either. I am still considering either the 8X or Lumia 920, they're both great devices.
    09-25-2012 09:49 AM
  25. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    I call bull on this article. Strong colours and WP standards are all that's copied here. And as someone said, the colours are different, albeit SOME overlap. Are Nokia SERIOUSLY trying to say "If it isn't Nokia, it's only allowed to be Black/White". By that tone, should Apple sue EVERYBODY for having black/white phones. See what this is devolving into?
    09-25-2012 09:51 AM
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