09-05-2017 12:51 PM
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  1. Jakoh's Avatar
    I certainly think the next big thing from Redmond will be an Mobile, ARM based, windows 10 device with cellular connectivity.

    If i could wish what it was:
    Be able to be put into a pocket.
    200grams
    have upto a 7" screen with 3:4.
    Be usable with one hand or like a canvas.
    be able to make phone calls but not have to hold it up to your ear.
    have a pen for advanced input.
    Everything else should just be industry standard top tier ARM.

    how to make this happen:
    360deg articulaton, (foldable or separate displays with small bezel to bring them together)
    wireless headset with built in holder and charger.
    - should have similar functionality to Sony Ear (https://www.sonymobile.com/us/produc...ts/xperia-ear/).
    Pen, hopefully thinner than Surface pro.
    Cortana integration with everything, like seeing date in email and finding the subject to add to calendar.
    08-17-2017 12:33 PM
  2. ScubaDog's Avatar
    For me, a new Windows-based phone would be as striking and colorful as the early Lumia devices. I hate the also-ran metal/glass garbage OEMs keep puking out. It must have a camera button. It must have the absolute, hands down, indisputably best camera out. I'm okay it being full Windows on ARM--IF we truly do have the same apps that are on our PCs and tablets also on the phone (e.g., truly write-once apps) AND I can have virtually the same user experience I have now with Windows Phone. I literally do NOT care what the internal specs are, as long as the device runs all this very smoothly. WP7 and WP8 were gorgeous largely because the hardware ran the OS so incredibly smoothly.
    08-24-2017 09:50 AM
  3. faisalbaba's Avatar
    Only thing i didn't like surface name.whenever Microsoft release new phone they should release with Lumia name because Lumia is more popular than surface in lot of countries

    Sent from (iOK)
    08-24-2017 10:15 AM
  4. Remy_S's Avatar
    For me the screen real estate, is most important, because it needs to be more productive than a normal smartphone. Ideally the screen is somewhere between 6.5 and 7". And not the elongated facebook browsing aspect ratio Samsung is pushing nowadays, but preferably 16:10 or no worse than 16:9.
    Of course at the same time, the device needs to be as small as possible, so don't waste precious space on bezels! Cameras I couldn't care less about. Ok, a rear mounted camera would be nice, but I'd gladly forsake the selfie cam for a larger screen.
    I don't need a super powerful CPU, just make it powerful enough to run light office apps well enough via continuum on a bigger screen.
    Software wise, it should be running Win10 on ARM/Andromeda or whatever the call it with Cshell. And please design Cshell to work as well with touch interface as with a mouse. Use the things that were good about Win 8! Win 10 is still nowhere near as good when it comes to touch.
    08-24-2017 10:33 AM
  5. Haystack510's Avatar
    Windows 10S
    All Apps continuum enabled
    Dual Camera Zies lenses
    Wide Angle Front Facing Camera
    Most Current Arm/Snapdragon 84x Series
    6-7 inch screen fold or non folding.
    Iris face/finger
    3D touch/
    Dedicated Camera Button
    3:2 aspect
    Pen Support
    Dual Sim Support
    usb C thunderbolt
    08-24-2017 10:40 AM
  6. microsoft111's Avatar
    The camera is extremely important... it the most important spec for the Windows Phone unless it's actually going to run Windows 10 via emulation.

    Print reader on glass at the bottom of the front of the phone

    Hello using camera for facial recognition... Iris scanner doesn't work well enough for people wearing glasses sun or reading
    v_emman likes this.
    08-24-2017 10:43 AM
  7. rchillin's Avatar
    I recently got switched to an HP elite x3 after my lumia 950XL got busted and they didn't have any replacement unit. While the build quality and battery life is good, the camera and optics are not. I guess its not hard to realize that since this device is aimed at business.

    So for me, what ever Surface mobile device is coming (if at all) I hope it has stellar optics that raise the bar of the 950 series and still maintains somewhat of a consumer focus in addition to business.
    stnm, Jakoh and v_emman like this.
    08-24-2017 10:46 AM
  8. Hirox K's Avatar
    Very simple.
    * 5" or 6" win10.arm.
    * accepts uwp win10.pc profile, win10.phone profile is not necessary (no one cares anyway + win10.pc profile is literally the only choice. Window's going no where and MS is pushing it with win10.arm and win10s, etc. Unless, you want to code your own mechanism to sale, update, crack-proof, do your own advertisement old school way).
    * support surface pen (be nice to have but not compulsory)

    I'll dock it onto my gamepad for XPA / portable gaming.
    Def gonna abandon Nexus for this "win10.portable".
    08-24-2017 10:49 AM
  9. gerrymad's Avatar
    Sadly it looks like the best surface phone was announced by Samsung yesterday at the Armory in New York. It meet many of
    Haystack510
    's requirements. I would like it even more if like ScubaDog mentioned it looked as striking at the earlier Lumia devices. Just yesterday my son was looking at the yellow 1520 I passed on to him when I got my 950XL and he commented how great it looks. I still think it is one of the better looking phones in recent years.
    08-24-2017 10:57 AM
  10. Vittorio Vaselli's Avatar
    I certainly think the next big thing from Redmond will be an Mobile, ARM based, windows 10 device with cellular connectivity.

    If i could wish what it was:
    Be able to be put into a pocket.
    200grams
    have upto a 7" screen with 3:4.
    Be usable with one hand or like a canvas.
    be able to make phone calls but not have to hold it up to your ear.
    have a pen for advanced input.
    Everything else should just be industry standard top tier ARM.

    how to make this happen:
    360deg articulaton, (foldable or separate displays with small bezel to bring them together)
    wireless headset with built in holder and charger.
    - should have similar functionality to Sony Ear (https://www.sonymobile.com/us/produc...ts/xperia-ear/).
    Pen, hopefully thinner than Surface pro.
    Cortana integration with everything, like seeing date in email and finding the subject to add to calendar.
    I like the idea of the wireless headsets, would be awesome if they can be inserted in the "phone" body and recharged when not in use.
    Jakoh likes this.
    08-24-2017 11:16 AM
  11. wpcautobot's Avatar
    Folks keep focusing on hardware, and while critical, is the OS and UX in my opinion that needs the most focus. If must be spot on. Consistent, easy. Stellar text input, much improved context awareness for suggestions and corrections. Best in class for remembering fields and auto entry of them. Ex, why do I have to forever type my email address? It should recognize things like this by now. The best hardware in the world won't make up for an OS that has countless Bluetooth bugs, battery software issues, etc. I'm hopeful though.
    user-774 and v_emman like this.
    08-24-2017 11:42 AM
  12. PFSP's Avatar
    What do I want out of a Surface phone....

    Well for starters how about...
    A commitment from Microsoft to the mobile platform. Enough of the endless stream of reboots. They will now have a fully unified operating system that can work for all types of computers which will now include ARM based mobile devices, there are no more excuses left. So what does this mean.
    - A commitment to get a wide variety of software available on this mobile device (can also be laptop/desktop enabled this UWP after all)
    - A commitment to get more than one device in the phone space
    - Make it a phone first, I have a personal surface, and surface I use for work. They are highly portable devices that are only missing GSM connectivity so I can be online (almost) anywhere. Additionally, I can pick up a really powerful 2 in 1 or laptop running W10 for around $1000 if I want to. I don't want my next phone to be a tablet, make an ARM based surface device for that. A foldout screen to be able to make it work in tablet mode if fine, but I want to put it in my pocket and use it like a phone for probably 75% of the time
    - A smooth as silk fully functional continuum like experience that allows me to dock and extend my display to multiple displays like I do with my work surface now.
    - Over the air continuum to a single monitor or laptop is good.
    - A reasonably priced lap dock companion would be nice (the HP lap dock is way over priced IMO)

    - Hardware Options - I know the surface phone will be a premium device, and OK it can cost about $1000 but that should be a premium system 6GB Ram or more, every port I could want (USB-C, Mico HDMI, etc.) But give me two options, a $600 model we less specs that I buy for other family members with breaking the bank. Also partner with HP/Acatel/Acer and other manufacturers to give the consumer a few options that can range from mid priced ($400) to premium ($1200)


    is this asking too much?
    v_emman likes this.
    08-24-2017 12:30 PM
  13. rodneyej's Avatar
    Yeah, but this is about a Surface Phone in particular.. Of course it would run Windows 10.. So, the hardware aspect has got to be the biggest discussion point now... You're grips belong on a W10 update, or suggestion forum..
    08-24-2017 01:04 PM
  14. rodneyej's Avatar
    Man. This device, whether it has a folding screen, or not, needs to be cut from the same cloth as the Surface Pro. It needs to heavily rely on the design principles of the latest Surface devices. the hardware needs to perform optimally, at it's strongest, taking anything practical that you can throw at it. Thin, and light... Come in several appealing colors, have a modernized version of the 1020 camera, and take industry standard setting shots. It needs to have dual high fidelity speakers, with dedicated amplification....
    SD 840 SD 845
    6GB ram 8GBram
    120GB rom 256GB rom
    4500 mah battery
    dual MSDC slots
    1USBC & 1 standard USB port
    photovoltaic screen
    dual wireless charging support
    all US carrier band support
    v_emman likes this.
    08-24-2017 01:15 PM
  15. black ramm's Avatar
    Just create a device that will be supported and not given up on or rebooted for the umpteen time!
    Vivien R likes this.
    08-24-2017 01:34 PM
  16. Carlo Razzeto's Avatar
    As much as I would love to remain in the windows ecosystem I don't know if a surface phone makes much sense anymore. I think MS lost as a mobile maker. I mean really, they've burned people over and over again who will trust them again other than a few dedicated souls? So I think the best thing MS can do is take their apps, and make them available across the platforms. Edge included, maps etc. That makes the most sense.

    As far as interesting concepts, the most interesting concept was the foldable phone. Except Samsung is working on it too so it's not so unique.
    08-24-2017 02:01 PM
  17. Yangstax's Avatar
    I certainly think the next big thing from Redmond will be an Mobile, ARM based, windows 10 device with cellular connectivity.

    If i could wish what it was:
    Be able to be put into a pocket.
    200grams
    have upto a 7" screen with 3:4.
    Be usable with one hand or like a canvas.
    be able to make phone calls but not have to hold it up to your ear.
    have a pen for advanced input.
    Everything else should just be industry standard top tier ARM.

    how to make this happen:
    360deg articulaton, (foldable or separate displays with small bezel to bring them together)
    wireless headset with built in holder and charger.
    - should have similar functionality to Sony Ear (https://www.sonymobile.com/us/produc...ts/xperia-ear/).
    Pen, hopefully thinner than Surface pro.
    Cortana integration with everything, like seeing date in email and finding the subject to add to calendar.
    08-24-2017 02:59 PM
  18. Yangstax's Avatar
    I don't think that Surface Phone would use SD835. It would use SD845 which is shipping next Spring. SD845 use 7nm process chip and 30% more powerful than SD835 with much improved battery life. It uses the new ARM Cortex-A75, A55 and Mali G72 which heavily supports the W10 MR specs. I would be very surprised if SD845 is not used for Surface Phone if there is one.

    My dream Surface Phone specs would be like following:

    - SD845 processor
    - 3 models: 4GB/64GB SSD, 6GB/128GB SSD and 8GB/256GB SSD
    - CShell based WoA 64-bit
    - 5G ready with eSIM
    - Graphene based foldable screen (6" when folded and 8" tablet when unfolded)
    - Surface Pen support
    - MR Support

    The Surface Phone would run all the Windows Store apps, web apps and progressive web apps. It is built and targeting at the W10 users rather than the WP users.
    vacancy job likes this.
    08-24-2017 03:23 PM
  19. user-774's Avatar
    So, the hardware aspect has got to be the biggest discussion point now... You're grips belong on a W10 update, or suggestion forum..
    While that statement is true, the general sales and reception of the device still strongly depends on the OS and it's features. Remember the tight social media integration on Win8Phone? It was way above any other devices. That's why such features can leverage the device as a whole during it's release.
    08-24-2017 03:27 PM
  20. utg001's Avatar
    I just want it to have an AMOLED display with front firing speakers, i would prefer capacitive buttons but what my Lumia 650 has taught me is that i prefer Windows on screen buttons to android ones so it wouldn't matter.

    The camera must not have a bump, that bump however tiny makes the esthetics for me, don't need a 41 or even 20 mp camera if MS can deliver a quality shooter that has no bump.

    Of course it's got to have Windows hello, but I'd prefer it to have a finger print sensor. Imagine if Microsoft was able to incorporate the sensor right in the display, making part or the entire display as a sensor, that would be enough to turn the heads of everyone around.

    And yes, no Microsoft product would feel that way if they didn't launch a brand new operating system one year later that couldn't be installed in the old phone/s
    08-24-2017 05:56 PM
  21. vEEP pEEP's Avatar
    One that is supported by fully MS for more than a few years instead of abandoning it.
    08-24-2017 06:34 PM
  22. etphoto's Avatar
    One that is supported by fully MS for more than a few years instead of abandoning it.
    Agree. MS would make very bad fishermen. They put their lines in the water and if they don't get bites they fold thier rods up and go home. Need to change bait, maybe locations and continue fishing. Don't give up so fast.

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
    vEEP pEEP likes this.
    08-24-2017 06:56 PM
  23. soulcancer's Avatar
    1. copy the S8 design but keep the buttons on one side.
    2. put dual flashes on the front on either side of the phone and the fingerprint on the center.
    3. SD card
    4. headset Jack
    5. BETTER INTERACTION AND SYNCING WITH THE PC.
    6. Apps.
    7.
    08-24-2017 08:57 PM
  24. Gregorius Magnus's Avatar
    And my dream of the Surface Phone had come true.

    Index - Tech - Rádupláztak az oroszok a mobilkijelzőre

    Only it is still not the Surface phone. Already another nail in the coffin of whatever Microsoft is to come up with. I've loved to see something like this with the e-paper display serving as a glance screen and the e-reader mode of Edge in the surface phone. Something like this could replace my Lumia 950 for sure in the future if there is no Microsoft alternative by the time it fails on me and there is no other Lumia 950 left on the market.

    Sorry, about the foreign language article! Windows Central has wasted enough time of mine by not placing anything on the forum page coming from their app that would let me sign-in or write a comment on the thread, and having me forced to figure out the only thing I can do is to attempt to quote someone to forward me to a login page, that I don't feel like researching on an English-language article already.
    08-25-2017 02:43 AM
  25. vacancy job's Avatar
    If running win10S for the new Surface phone will be wasted Windows on Arm effort.
    My wish on surface phone must be high end and on par with the latest phone design.
    Most importantly have a full windows when continuum, meaning it really can replace you pc, can install exe file.
    There can be a cheaper win10S version, but full win10 is a must.
    And sure dual sim, dual camera, finger print reader, iris scanner...etc.
    So there can be some accessories like hp lapdock or like a bigger screen 12" 10" which can attach to the phone olin order to access full wondows.
    When there only a phone then will be a CShell optimized for touch for a normal phone did.
    08-25-2017 03:03 AM
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