06-16-2016 12:38 PM
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  1. Shaoor Munir's Avatar
    Hi everyone, I want to buy a new phone right now. I am a student right now and don't really have the budget to buy a high end phone. I was wondering if there is any sense in buying a 640 or 650 right now, when I can get a nexus 5x by throwing in a little bit more money (albeit probably without warranty). I don't think lower end Lumia phones will be supported well in the long run. I was wondering if anyone could guide me here, which direction should I go into?
    greedo_greedy likes this.
    05-30-2016 01:10 AM
  2. prasanna moholkar's Avatar
    Go with Lumia 640 without any tension.
    05-30-2016 01:23 AM
  3. milkyway's Avatar
    If you are after long support then go with the 650. The 650 is better than the 640 in every way except that it doesn't have Glance.
    If you like Android then buy a Nexus 5x
    Orlando Parkinson likes this.
    05-30-2016 01:40 AM
  4. justonlumia's Avatar
    Which country?
    05-30-2016 02:02 AM
  5. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    If you are after long support then go with the 650. The 650 is better than the 640 in every way except that it doesn't have Glance.
    If you like Android then buy a Nexus 5x
    650 got Glance!
    05-30-2016 02:24 AM
  6. milkyway's Avatar
    650 got Glance!
    Oops, sorry, I meant Double Tap to Wake
    Maurizio Troso likes this.
    05-30-2016 03:21 AM
  7. EspHack's Avatar
    Hi everyone, I want to buy a new phone right now. I am a student right now and don't really have the budget to buy a high end phone. I was wondering if there is any sense in buying a 640 or 650 right now, when I can get a nexus 5x by throwing in a little bit more money (albeit probably without warranty). I don't think lower end Lumia phones will be supported well in the long run. I was wondering if anyone could guide me here, which direction should I go into?
    me neither, it wouldn't surprise me if they don't get past "anniversary" and to be honest I have to ask, why do you want a w10m over a fine nexus 5? glance screen?

    650 got Glance!
    it actually has an even better glance! because AMOLED
    Maurizio Troso likes this.
    05-30-2016 03:24 AM
  8. Shaoor Munir's Avatar
    Which country?
    Pakistan.
    05-30-2016 07:51 AM
  9. Shaoor Munir's Avatar
    me neither, it wouldn't surprise me if they don't get past "anniversary" and to be honest I have to ask, why do you want a w10m over a fine nexus 5? glance screen?



    it actually has an even better glance! because AMOLED
    Nexus 5x has a version of glance, I think. I have had a Lumia phone for two years, so it feels bad leaving the platform now. That is why I am very hesitant in buying anything other than W10M.
    05-30-2016 08:01 AM
  10. Ten Four's Avatar
    I would have said buy the 640 a few weeks ago, but now I am getting tired of things not working, bugs, and also the apparent lack of long-term commitment from Microsoft. You can count on Google sticking with Android in the long run, and you also tie in to the entire Google ecosystem of services that are very useful, particularly for consumers: Gmail, Drive, Photos, Hangouts/other messaging, Chrome OS, etc. Soon you will be able to run Android apps on a Chromebook. Google is focused on consumers. Microsoft is focused on business.
    05-30-2016 08:12 AM
  11. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Nexus 5x has a version of glance, I think. I have had a Lumia phone for two years, so it feels bad leaving the platform now. That is why I am very hesitant in buying anything other than W10M.
    Don't forget 650 got updated firmwares working for Win10 instead of 640
    05-30-2016 08:33 AM
  12. Shaoor Munir's Avatar
    Don't forget 650 got updated firmwares working for Win10 instead of 640
    How much of a difference does that make? Can anyone tell his/her experience?
    05-30-2016 09:02 AM
  13. TgeekB's Avatar
    The 640 is a fine phone and I only paid $29 for it. Can't ask for much more than that.
    05-30-2016 09:18 AM
  14. prasanna moholkar's Avatar
    Don't forget 650 got updated firmwares working for Win10 instead of 640
    What u mean 640 can't get firmware update???
    05-30-2016 09:22 AM
  15. 11B1P's Avatar
    What u mean 640 can't get firmware update???
    They didn't say the 640 "can't" get firmware update. It is possible the 640 will get a firmware update later on.
    05-30-2016 09:42 AM
  16. prasanna moholkar's Avatar
    They didn't say the 640 "can't" get firmware update. It is possible the 640 will get a firmware update later on.
    May be 640 get firmware update in anniversary update.
    05-30-2016 10:12 AM
  17. EspHack's Avatar
    Nexus 5x has a version of glance, I think. I have had a Lumia phone for two years, so it feels bad leaving the platform now. That is why I am very hesitant in buying anything other than W10M.
    but have you tried w10m? or are you still on 8.1? in any case I would recommend to wait for that anniversary update buzz to pass, we will probably have more buying options after that, the 650 is good all around but with such a weak cpu it just doesn't look good for even a year usage considering recent wp developments

    if you can get a 640 for like 30$ then by all means go ahead there's nothing to lose that way, but if you're deciding between a nexus and a 640-650 at MSRP there's no way I can recommend a lumia over a nexus

    How much of a difference does that make? Can anyone tell his/her experience?
    if you have to ask that question... I think its obvious there wont be any, nothing that can be statistically measured with any degree of certainty, for some people it will be a miracle, for others it will not matter, and some will have it worse, with w10m there's no certainty of anything, I dare say its just a big chunk of placebo effect in most cases,
    05-30-2016 03:20 PM
  18. Jack Neill's Avatar
    go with a 830
    Guytronic and mark233 like this.
    05-30-2016 05:59 PM
  19. libra89's Avatar
    Nexus 5x has a version of glance, I think. I have had a Lumia phone for two years, so it feels bad leaving the platform now. That is why I am very hesitant in buying anything other than W10M.
    It has Ambient Display. Unfortunately, it is fickle with how well it works. The 640 or the 830 (if you can find it) is the best bet imo, since you would be able to choose if you would rather use W10M or go back to 8.1.

    However, the 5x is solid. The battery life was something that really annoyed me about it. I always found myself running to a charger either at work or by 5pm.
    Chris Turek likes this.
    05-30-2016 08:41 PM
  20. Guytronic's Avatar
    ...it feels bad leaving the platform now. That is why I am very hesitant in buying anything other than W10M.

    You'll get over it...

    By the way.
    Which Windows phone do you have now?
    libra89 and broar94 like this.
    05-30-2016 08:52 PM
  21. milkyway's Avatar
    I repeat: the 650 is better in every way than the 640. here's a very good comparison:
    Microsoft Lumia 640 vs Lumia 650 comparison: is it worth the upgrade? [Update]

    it depends on your country how much the price gap between the 640 and the 650 is. in my country the 650 is only slightly more expensive so I personally would go with the 650.
    if you are curious about Android then get a Nexus ;)
    05-31-2016 01:14 AM
  22. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    How much of a difference does that make? Can anyone tell his/her experience?
    That's like a notebook with reguarly updated video GPU, motherboard chipset, or audio drivers.
    On my 650 it noticed on the field improved battery and log on times
    05-31-2016 02:08 AM
  23. earthman007's Avatar
    If money wasn't a potential barrier, I'd say the 650 - but you say that you're a student, so I'm assuming money isn't in full abundance. I don't know the availability and pricing in Pakistan, so that's another complication, frustrating easy advice. Here in the UK some places sell reconditioned phones that come with a warranty, so it's feasible to get older hardware that's low cost and has some peace of mind: that would support a W8 phone using Insider Preview atm to run 10, or remain on 8, such as the 640. The 650 is a good phone, albeit without all of the features that the 950s have and I would happily buy and use it, if being sold at the right price. The 640 has been offered for really low prices in the USA over the last few months and again I would be incredibly happy to buy for $30ish and run with 10 on it, or revert back to 8.

    So it partly depends on your country's phone propositions, warranties etc, if I was in the same situation. Having used 10 via the Insider Preview option I've generally been impressed and had few but only minor issues on an older handset and tried out a 650 instore and it seems great - so happily recommend mobiles with 10 to others. The OS will improve over time and the 650 will likely manage to sustain this with greater capability as time goes on.
    Maurizio Troso likes this.
    05-31-2016 02:42 AM
  24. Tsarli's Avatar
    Is it worth buying a 640? Yes, but there are a couple of "ifs" though.

    1) IF you live in the US. and

    2) IF you can find the one they sell at Walgreens for $14 . Yes folks, $14!

    So do I use it as my main phone? Of course not. I have my LG G2 for that. But for $14 you get a fairly decent GPS-enabled camera that you can play rough with and not regret in case you lose or break.
    05-31-2016 11:53 AM
  25. Jakoh's Avatar
    I don't see why ANYONE, at this point, would buy a Lumia. Lumia is DEAD.

    EDIT: WOW, its my 400th post, the most grim one.
    05-31-2016 02:24 PM
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