1. Kazekage1981's Avatar
    Full HD 1920x1080p MINIMUM: For any tablet whether it be budget tablets, or any new hybrid flip tablet/laptops, or even windows 10 mobile phones, or all in-one touch desktops it must have a minimum resolution of 1920x1080. A lot of of those budget lumia phones and asus tablets have 1024x768 resolution or lower. We are already transitioning to 4K, so let this be the minimum requirement for all windows 10 displays.

    Stylus Fine Tip Pen: I am not talking about those third party rubber ended pens to use for tablets. I am talking about fine tip pen that is used for Microsoft Surface Pro series, and the pen that is used in galaxy note 4. What is the point of touch , and drawing/paint software if you cant use a pen on it? That must be a standard for all Windows 10 tablets (for the option of buying a stylus pen) and mobile phones. I might want to use the pen to sign pdf documents or other things. Also it must be 1:1 touch with 2048 levels of pressure for maximum accuracy.

    Blu-Ray R/RW drives: I still have no clue why non-touch desktops towers, all-in one touch and not touch desktops still have those outdated DVD-R/RW drives? Get rid of those once and for all. It would also be nice if touch/non-touch laptops have the option of buying ultra slim INTERNAL blu-ray R/RW drives. Yes I know you can simply connect external blu-ray using USB, but this would be a nice option. I also know you don’t really need blu-ray since we have streaming, but a lot of streaming is compressed and not full quality.

    Cortana: They are already putting Cortona in xbox one, windows phones and and it will be soon in windows 10.

    Kinect/Hand Gesture Sensors: I am not sure if they can put the kinect technology or something similar built in the hardware in tablets/phones/desktops but it would be nice to use hand gestures when making power point presentations or just simply navigation. Maybe u can wear gloves too? Similar to that tom cruise movie (the movie where he searches for crimes before it happens).
    What do you guys think? Feel free to use these ideas in the Microsoft suggestion box.
    Last edited by Kazekage1981; 01-18-2015 at 12:27 AM.
    01-17-2015 08:53 PM
  2. Athull's Avatar
    Why on earth would there be a 1080p minimum resolution for phones?
    480p will always be the minimum res as long as MS makes 4"-4.5"low to mid range phones.
    Besides how can it in anyway benefit 4k transition?
    01-17-2015 10:16 PM
  3. Kazekage1981's Avatar
    That's the whole point of making this post, and that is to raise the standards for windows 10 phones. Hence, new standards! I am getting really tired of these crapola dinky budget phones with low resolutions. That was the whole point of this post. I am not saying make windows 10 phones with 4K, I am saying MS, and other phone companies should make 1080p windows 10 phones (for whatever minimum size screen 1080p screens fit in in mobile smart phones). If I go to a Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile, I am not interested in dinky budget phones, I want to check out whats new. Besides 1080p will soon be incorporated within a few years down the line of there budget phones, that way they can make there phones more power efficient.
    01-18-2015 12:26 AM
  4. Athull's Avatar
    Huh? Not all markets are like US FYI most of the Asian markets doesn't have carrier subisidies and phones are sold unlocked and a 1080p phone like the 930 would cost $600 which most people don't have....
    These so called "crapola budget phones" are were the market is and for them 480-720p screens are more than good enough to sell.
    If u are not interested in them then don't buy them you do have plenty of 1080p phones under ur disposal but theres a lot of guys who just need a cheap but efficient phone and that situation won't change anytime soon in the future.

    And I don't understand ur logic in the final part of ur comment... How does putting 1080p screens on budget phones make them more power efficient?
    If anything higher resolution can only make phones less efficient...

    Some 2-3 years down the line 1080p would probably become the minimum spec as u said but it sure as hell wont be the case with W10...
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    01-18-2015 01:19 AM
  5. AngryNil's Avatar
    Do you understand how the PC, tablet and phone markets work? Cheap devices make up the bulk of sales. How does it make any sense to mandate an active digitiser, Blu-ray drive and gesture sensors? Those are all niche features, they have no business being standards.

    Side note: 1080p adds nothing but additional battery drain on smaller phones — I bet most people aren't even able to tell the difference. I'll take a 720p display on a ~4.5" device over 1080p any day.
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    01-18-2015 05:54 AM
  6. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    So computing for the masses should disappear? I don't see all of those things coming in a price palatable to most people.
    01-20-2015 12:47 AM
  7. Luisraul924's Avatar
    This isn't the best idea. The last time there were strict specifications on devices for Windows Phone was at the launch of 7.0 and those specs were pretty close to flagship status for their time. That resulted in OEMs making all their devices essentially the same with the only differentiator being the screen size and three of them having physical keyboards. Back then though there was a nice number of devices because the OEMs believed Windows Phone would be something. Now that OEMs realized that Windows Phone basically failed (at least their expectations anyway) Microsoft imposing such specs will result in a selection of two maybe three devices; one Lumia, one HTC and maybe one Samsung. Having only three devices in the world would be a bad thing, and that's not even mentioning the price on these things. It would be nice in the U.S. where carrier subsidies or financing is available but this isn't available in all countries. In short; if Microsoft wanted to effectively finish killing Windows Phone then they should do this.
    01-20-2015 01:06 AM
  8. hotphil's Avatar
    Full HD 1920x1080p MINIMUM: For any tablet whether it be budget tablets
    Full HD for budget devices? That's contradictory surely? Unless there's some MAJOR advances either in battery capacity/screen power drain, that's not realistic. Sorry.

    Stylus Fine Tip Pen:
    Again, not going to be feasible for MS's target markets - budget territories. There's no need for handwritten signatures these days anyway - digital signing has been legally accepted for years.

    Blu-Ray R/RW drives
    You still use optical media? Wow.
    Cortana
    Again, for territories where data connections are prohibitively expensive/quota'd, having a mandatory feature that's heavily data reliant might not be realistic.
    Kinect/Hand Gesture Sensors
    Maybe. If the technology works.
    01-20-2015 01:08 AM
  9. Kazekage1981's Avatar
    Again, not going to be feasible for MS's target markets - budget territories. There's no need for handwritten signatures these days anyway - digital signing has been legally accepted for years.
    I must dish out $700+ just for this feature? This could basically be a game changer here, as a former student I wish I had a tablet or all-in one laptop/tablet where I could write all of my notes, do all of my highlighting. As a teacher I wish I could write my notes on this tablet, show it on screen using HDMI out on a projector and do much more. I hated collecting all the paper work and putting all that crap inside binders. Spending $700+ on Surface Pro series, or Wacom Cintique is beyond ridiculous.
    01-20-2015 08:06 AM
  10. Jas00555's Avatar
    I must dish out $700+ just for this feature?
    You have no idea how much a good Wacom digitizer costs, do you?
    01-20-2015 08:13 AM
  11. Jas00555's Avatar
    That's the whole point of making this post, and that is to raise the standards for windows 10 phones. Hence, new standards! I am getting really tired of these crapola dinky budget phones with low resolutions. That was the whole point of this post. I am not saying make windows 10 phones with 4K, I am saying MS, and other phone companies should make 1080p windows 10 phones (for whatever minimum size screen 1080p screens fit in in mobile smart phones). If I go to a Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile, I am not interested in dinky budget phones, I want to check out whats new. Besides 1080p will soon be incorporated within a few years down the line of there budget phones, that way they can make there phones more power efficient.
    You do realize if they put a 1080p screen in, they'll have to also put in a much better processor right? Otherwise, it'll lag like all hell. Then they'll need a way bigger battery so you have more than 4 hours of battery life. Then they'll... Oh look, you've just built a high end phone.
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    01-20-2015 08:17 AM
  12. Kazekage1981's Avatar
    You still use optical media? Wow.
    I know people now stream movies using Netflix, Hulu, Xbox Video, Playstation Network etc, but you need to have a strong network signal/connection/bandwidth to get a decent HD signal. Keep in mind this is a decent 720p signal. That decent 720p signal is highly compressed picture with compressed sound. I live in USA, use AT&T as my network, pay $40/month and I can barely get a decent 720p signal. Good look on streaming movies in 4K. I am a huge fan of anime, and I love the animation/artwork in anime movies, and I want to enjoy those movies in full glory 1080p on my laptop or laptop/tablet hybrid. I also would love to project/show those movies to friends and family via HDMI out with full 1080p signal which is why its better to either download it or have a physical hardcopy of it (blu-ray disks). That's why they should have Blu-Ray disk drives (internal) as a standard. If you don't need optical media drives why do they STILL include those outdated DVD-R/RW drives in tower desktops? Having the OPTION to buy a laptop/tablet hybrid with internal blu-ray disk drive saves me the constant hassle of plugging in an external bluray disk drive, and spending additional money on that drive.
    01-20-2015 08:36 AM
  13. Jas00555's Avatar
    You can barely stream 720p and you want 1080p screens? You do realize that the 720p video won't magically look better just because its a 1080p screen right? To get a better picture quality, you would actually see more buffering.
    01-20-2015 08:51 AM
  14. Jas00555's Avatar
    Also, your OP is not clear at all. You keep jumping back and forth between phones, tablets, and hybrids.
    01-20-2015 08:55 AM
  15. Xavier2508's Avatar
    Full HD 1920x1080p MINIMUM: For any tablet whether it be budget tablets, or any new hybrid flip tablet/laptops, or even windows 10 mobile phones, or all in-one touch desktops it must have a minimum resolution of 1920x1080. A lot of of those budget lumia phones and asus tablets have 1024x768 resolution or lower. We are already transitioning to 4K, so let this be the minimum requirement for all windows 10 displays.
    Congratulations, you just killed all smartphones and tablets under 299 (at least!)! And with it, you halved WP's market share... For the record, 720p, while not *perfect*, looks quite good on my 830 and I didn't complain about the 480p on my 620 (which still looked ok btw) since you can't expect flagship specs on a phone less than half the price of one...
    Stylus Fine Tip Pen: I am not talking about those third party rubber ended pens to use for tablets. I am talking about fine tip pen that is used for Microsoft Surface Pro series, and the pen that is used in galaxy note 4. What is the point of touch , and drawing/paint software if you cant use a pen on it? That must be a standard for all Windows 10 tablets (for the option of buying a stylus pen) and mobile phones. I might want to use the pen to sign pdf documents or other things. Also it must be 1:1 touch with 2048 levels of pressure for maximum accuracy.
    Ok, let's raise the minimum price for tablets by another 50-100, those pens and the required digitizers don't come for free after all...
    Blu-Ray R/RW drives: I still have no clue why non-touch desktops towers, all-in one touch and not touch desktops still have those outdated DVD-R/RW drives? Get rid of those once and for all. It would also be nice if touch/non-touch laptops have the option of buying ultra slim INTERNAL blu-ray R/RW drives. Yes I know you can simply connect external blu-ray using USB, but this would be a nice option. I also know you dont really need blu-ray since we have streaming, but a lot of streaming is compressed and not full quality.
    I'll give you a hint, DVD drives are 20 and up, Blu-Ray drives are 80 and up
    Cortana: They are already putting Cortona in xbox one, windows phones and and it will be soon in windows 10.
    Cortana has nothing to do with hardware or OEMs... Yes, yes, hey cortana excepted, big deal, she doesn't even speak my language yet.
    Kinect/Hand Gesture Sensors: I am not sure if they can put the kinect technology or something similar built in the hardware in tablets/phones/desktops but it would be nice to use hand gestures when making power point presentations or just simply navigation. Maybe u can wear gloves too? Similar to that tom cruise movie (the movie where he searches for crimes before it happens).
    What do you guys think? Feel free to use these ideas in the Microsoft suggestion box.
    Maybe... but IIRC that's pretty much what McLaren was supposed to do and they canceled it, so clearly Microsoft thinks it isn't good enough yet on phones.
    01-20-2015 09:19 AM
  16. Jas00555's Avatar
    And with it, you halved WP's market share....
    Lol more than that. S/he's literally killed off every WP besides the 930, 1520, and One M8.
    01-20-2015 10:15 AM
  17. white_Shadoww's Avatar
    Actually all I want is 4.5 inch 720p phone with Snapdragon 801, that way my phone will be faster than 1520 and 930 and will have better battery life. With these specs OP says, I won't ever get that phone.
    01-20-2015 10:28 AM
  18. Athull's Avatar
    Basically a Z3 compact's WP variant then :)
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    01-20-2015 10:40 AM
  19. Xavier2508's Avatar
    Lol more than that. S/he's literally killed off every WP besides the 930, 1520, and One M8.
    Well, I was being a bit generous and more interested in making a point than being 100% accurate, currently 1080p for smartphones is also much more of a €399 thing than €299 for instance.
    01-20-2015 11:02 AM
  20. Luisraul924's Avatar
    Oh look, you've just built a high end phone.
    Lolololololol 😂
    01-20-2015 11:59 AM
  21. white_Shadoww's Avatar
    Basically a Z3 compact's WP variant then :)
    Yup. You goy it right. I just don't get it what's the craze with bigger screens. You hardly seem to get good hardware these days in below 5 inch phones. And I don't really need 1080p as many movies I have are 720p only, besides i don't see a point in 1080p on such a small screen. I would love the increased performance in games due to less pixels to push and the extra battery life is always a bonus.
    01-20-2015 08:14 PM
  22. jomarr's Avatar
    I'm going to agree with Cortana but the others, just no.

    Those minimum specs you're asking for are just too much. Majority of the top sellers are budget laptops, tablets and phones. Flagships get more buzz because they introduce innovations. That's where these phone manufacturers brag about what they did, how their effort went and what might be the next big feature but these flagships excluding the Galaxy Series and the iPhones do not sell as much as the 100-300 dollar phones. Same with laptops and tablets, the biggest sellers are always on the low-end and this is the reason why Android is dominating in the mobile world.

    Not a lot of people can afford flagship devices. Like myself for example, I couldn't afford a Surface Pro 3. It's just too expensive. While I want these features on a 300-500 dollar laptop, I don't think this is possible at all at the moment. QHD screens are in and FHD is now the second best but these screens are still expensive. Wacom Digitizers are really expensive as well.

    All of these comes to perspective, when you light up a FHD monitor/screen, a better processor should be present as well, a bigger battery is also highly recommended. This is the reason why the LG G3 is being criticized. Yes, it has the QHD screen but the processor lacks power which bottlenecks the performance and gives the phone mediocre battery life even with a large capacity battery. It's still a fantastic device imo.

    You simply shouldn't put a FHD Screen or monitor with a SD 200 or an Intel Atom inside. The complaints will be off the roof and tarnish MS' reputation even more. The normal person wouldn't really care about these screen resolutions. Majority of them would just see if it's bright enough for them and they're good to go.

    If you want all of these, save some money and get a flagship device. If you can't just settle for something less. I'm pretty sure they will run decently for everything you need, especially Windows Phones. I personally want the Surface Pro 3 but I can't afford it but I do not expect flagship specs on a middle-range device.

    This could be a great suggestion 3 years from now but today, this is still questionable at the most part.
    01-20-2015 10:44 PM
  23. jomarr's Avatar
    That's the whole point of making this post, and that is to raise the standards for windows 10 phones. Hence, new standards! I am getting really tired of these crapola dinky budget phones with low resolutions. That was the whole point of this post. I am not saying make windows 10 phones with 4K, I am saying MS, and other phone companies should make 1080p windows 10 phones (for whatever minimum size screen 1080p screens fit in in mobile smart phones). If I go to a Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile, I am not interested in dinky budget phones, I want to check out whats new. Besides 1080p will soon be incorporated within a few years down the line of there budget phones, that way they can make there phones more power efficient.
    I think the problem here is Microsoft (or Nokia) and their carrier exclusivity which I think is dumb as well. The 1520 is exclusive to AT&T, The 930 (Icon) is exclusive to Verizon.

    The only solution here is to make these flagships available across the table. This is a problem in my country as well. My carrier didn't carry flagship WP devices because they're exclusive on another carrier. What I did was (this was back in early 2013) I got the iPhone 5, sold it then got the 920. So much work but hey I got my 920! But I don't know if carriers in the US allow you to sell your phones while under contract.. Carriers in RP literally do not care as long as you pay your bills.
    01-20-2015 10:51 PM

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