1. MikeSo's Avatar
    How can Microsoft let one of the most used apps, if not THE most used, in the world be this bad? The Facebook app will for many new Windows 10 users, going from Windows 7 especially, be the very first Windows 10 app that they use. I am incredulous that Microsoft hasn't used any means necessary to make this app as feature rich as it is on the web and on iOS and Android.

    If they are serious about making the app Store a "thing" on Windows 10, they can't let this poor excuse for an app be the face of it.

    Also, they have removed the "Last updated" information from apps in the Windows 10 Store. I know they were probably embarrassed that most apps never see any updates, but until they put that information back I will not purchase ANY apps. It is a crucial piece of information in the decision to spend money on something. A really consumer-hostile move, just to hide their own lack of success with apps.
    08-01-2015 10:00 AM
  2. Neyney10's Avatar
    It's harder for Microsoft to make a Facebook app while they don't have the same sources of data and algorithems as Facebook inc.
    Changes to one of those factors [Data type/algorithems/adding new feature to the official web-based facebook] will make Microsoft hard to keep a track on it. It's true that they need to try harder.
    08-01-2015 10:22 AM
  3. MikeSo's Avatar
    It's harder for Microsoft to make a Facebook app while they don't have the same sources of data and algorithems as Facebook inc.
    Changes to one of those factors [Data type/algorithems/adding new feature to the official web-based facebook] will make Microsoft hard to keep a track on it. It's true that they need to try harder.
    Absolutely, they need to try harder. I honestly don't care what they have to do, they MUST do it. Hell, even a web wrapper would be better for the Windows 10 Store right now. Most people wouldn't even know, and it would be ten times better than the pathetic Facebook app they have now.

    They can't succeed with the apps like this, and if they can't succeed with apps, their entire mobile strategy is dead. It all hinges on people usig Windows 10 on desktops and laptops enough that they seek out apps, which then can be designed and used on Windows 10 Mobile as well. There are many nice touches in Windows 10 that carries over to Mobile, and I think it might get people to take a look at the new flagship phones when they come out.
    However, if they see apps like Facebook (and see that hardly anything else is in the app Store for them), they won't even bother. This isn't something that Microsoft can drag their feet on, and "it's hard" can't be their excuse.
    08-01-2015 10:28 AM
  4. dlalonde's Avatar
    I do agree that removing the last updated date seems a bit shady. But, in all fairness, everyone has different opinions about different apps on different platforms. I just came back from Android and I didn't find the Facebook app that spectacular in comparison.
    stevemind likes this.
    08-01-2015 10:32 AM
  5. excalibur1814's Avatar
    I...

    Just open Internet explorer and go straight to Facebook. I find the full page view of IE better than an app.
    skt_diaz and RobinPaul like this.
    08-01-2015 10:45 AM
  6. gnd1's Avatar
    Same here. Also true for Twitter..
    08-01-2015 11:26 AM
  7. skt_diaz's Avatar
    Yes, browsing through ie is much better than the app
    08-01-2015 11:29 AM
  8. MikeSo's Avatar
    Yeah I know that IE is much better than the app. That's exactly the problem for Microsoft, and that's what this thread is about.

    Microsoft counts on their app store to succeed to be able to remain relevant, but nothing that they offer is better than a web browser. That is a disastrous business model for them.
    08-01-2015 01:49 PM
  9. MikeSo's Avatar
    I do agree that removing the last updated date seems a bit shady. But, in all fairness, everyone has different opinions about different apps on different platforms. I just came back from Android and I didn't find the Facebook app that spectacular in comparison.
    I don't think you have used the Facebook app much in comparison then. The way content is displayed inside the app, the way comments are displayed and navigated through, pictures etc... There is no comparison. The Android app has so many features that the Windows app lacks that it's ridiculous.

    Anyone that is a frequent user of that and comes to Windows 10 will get a very bad first impression if they load up the Facebook app. It certainly won't encourage them to seek out other apps instead of using the browser... Which won't encourage developers to make apps for Windows 10, which in turn will leave the app store as barren as it today, which will keep destroying Windows Phone. That's why this matters.
    08-02-2015 09:53 AM
  10. stevemind's Avatar
    Just thought I'd chip in ..... I do agree the Facebook has its faults! But with respect, I've used all the platforms and its not always greener on the other side. The wp app "looks better" yeah it's missing things....but I had a better experience with our app. It goes to show how important Apps are( sad but true) to a platform.
    08-02-2015 10:04 AM
  11. Tsang Fai's Avatar
    How can Microsoft let one of the most used apps, if not THE most used, in the world be this bad? The Facebook app will for many new Windows 10 users, going from Windows 7 especially, be the very first Windows 10 app that they use. I am incredulous that Microsoft hasn't used any means necessary to make this app as feature rich as it is on the web and on iOS and Android.

    If they are serious about making the app Store a "thing" on Windows 10, they can't let this poor excuse for an app be the face of it.

    Also, they have removed the "Last updated" information from apps in the Windows 10 Store. I know they were probably embarrassed that most apps never see any updates, but until they put that information back I will not purchase ANY apps. It is a crucial piece of information in the decision to spend money on something. A really consumer-hostile move, just to hide their own lack of success with apps.
    I know the Facebook app of Windows Store has limited functions. But it behaves quite well for basic usage. It launches quickly and runs quite smoothly. It supports messaging within the app (voice messages not supported yet). I don't think it is that "bad".

    And you always have a choice to use a browser for Facebook. I think it is very normal for people to use a desktop browser for facebook if available, especially when they need to do more sophisticated tasks.

    I think Windows Store needs those apps which have no browser alternatives. For facebook, the web version always has the richest features. Even iOS/Android Facebooks apps have many many limitations. Imagine you have a MacBook and an iPhone, would you still insist on using Facebook app on the iPhone instead of using it with Safari on your MacBook?
    08-02-2015 10:27 AM
  12. bigtlb's Avatar
    Right now, a search for "Facebook" in the Windows App Store does not return the app. The direct store link still works. But, if you go to the publisher's name at the bottom, and see all the apps published by Facebook, the list is blank.

    So, the app has currently been withdrawn from the store... Is this because a new release is imminent? Has Microsoft pulled it because it provides a subpar user experience (esp. in light of the Windows 10 release)? Has Facebook pulled it to force everyone to the web site?
    08-02-2015 01:42 PM
  13. johnson_patrickw's Avatar
    Many of you mentioned using IE, I really hope that isn't the case
    08-02-2015 01:45 PM
  14. elindalyne's Avatar
    So.... the FB app in the windows store is not managed or run by Microsoft. FB itself is in charge of curating it.
    08-02-2015 01:50 PM
  15. gnd1's Avatar
    Not that this is really relevant but one big advantage to using FB on IE(or any browser) instead of the app, is the ability to use the online message thing. The FB app wants you to download and use the separate FB Messenger App. I see this as a pain. The same is true for using Facebook on a smartphone. Use the browser to go to Facebook, not the App.
    08-02-2015 02:55 PM
  16. bigtlb's Avatar
    Facebook Messenger on Windows Phone is great! You get push notifications, and in many cases I prefer it over SMS. I wish it had better emoji support, but you it is livable.

    On the WinRT app, messaging is still integral to the application. But, sometimes causes the whole app to blow up (this really needs to be fixed). Uninstalling and reinstalling to fix this blow up was what caused me to notice that the app was no longer available in the Windows App Store (at least for Win 10).
    08-02-2015 03:07 PM
  17. bigtlb's Avatar
    And the Facebook app in the Windows Store is back. Don't know if it is the same version or not. Don't know if it was intentionally taken offline or if it was just a technical glitch.
    08-02-2015 09:45 PM

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