1. Roman DeSilva's Avatar
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    Before i present this idea, follow me down a rabbit hole or 2. So i was helping my roommate with something on his Macbook Pro and I played around with touch bar. It's not enough to make me switch but it was interesting to have it. Especially when using Word or using social media. Now don't get me wrong, this is NO SUBSTITUTE for an actual touch screen. But it's not without merit. It quickly became something that i wish i had on my Surface Pro. Now, while i liked the functionality. I can't quite see it on my Surface Pro. Not simply because i think it would be a battery drain on my type cover. Because once i remove the type cover, if it was a hardware based feature, it'd be one that'd disappear once the keyboard was removed and i went into tablet mode.

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    So let's go down rabbit hole #2 . Last one, i swear. I'm using my surface pro in desktop mode. But there's a few things i need from the virtual keyboard. I Windows key and . to bring up the emoji keyboard and up comes the ugly square of emojis' that have yet to be updated unlike the windows 10 mobile version. The emojis' are small and unlike the windows 10 mobile version, it's not smart enough to correlate itself to what i just typed. Then at some point I get lazy and I just don't feel like typing anymore. I decide that I just feel like talking to the computer and letting it type it out. However, in order to do this I need to bring up the virtual keyboard which I have to already having a enabled in the task bar. Bring that up and then hit the microphone button. To which again, this is where i miss my Lumia 950 XL again. Well, I still have & use it everyday. I just wish i started using it for this task. The dictation isn't nearly as good as it is on my W10M as it just puts the words on the screen. No commas, periods, question marks, etc. It's not as intelligent. You'd think Windows 10 & Windows 10 mobile were made by 2 different companies. But that's a different rant (coming soon).

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    It occurs to me that it doesn't have to be this way while looking at the task bar. A staple of the Windows desktop environment since before most of you reading this were ever born. Anything pinned to it is static. Little to indicate anything new is happening with anything pinned there. Very little about it has changed since Windows 7. The start menu was deprecated for a bit. It's back again and now there's Cortana, a task switcher with timeline, an action center button and people can be pinned but nothing really happens there either. In tablet mode, you either have the exact same thing or nothing at all. By en' large the taskbar is the dullest thing about windows 10.

    So what if Microsoft were to take the task bar and replace it with something more a kin to the touch bar from the Macbook? Imagine the task bar as it is now. Same layout, don't worry, your icons next to the clock are still there. Pinned people are still there. But much like windows phone of old, maybe a little more animated when something new is occuring with them (who's for bringing back hubs where Facebook, Twitter, Skype, Xbox & MeetUp can be plugged in). Anything pinned there acts like a tiny live tile with a small action to get your attention. To the left of the clock is a microphone button. One tap or click and you get get voice dictation (desktop mode only).

    Now what about the emoji keyboard? For that matter, what about the rest of the keyboard features from Windows 10 Mobile? In desktop mode as you're typing, just above the keyboard suggestions appear just above the cursor. Just as in W10M, hit space and the word suggested will be used. Hold down on shift and arrow key left or right to select a suggested word then hit enter and presto, the selected suggested word is used. Back to that emoji keyboard. Rather than whats there now (the ugly spuare). Windows key and . temporarily changes the task bar from the edge of the task switcher button to the beginning of people, you'll find mostly what's there from the emoji keyboard. All except the abc button and the backspace key. Now you no longer have a tiny/ugly square. Your selection takes up the lower 3'rd of the screen. With larger emojis' and possibly even more things to choose from. Make your selection with the pointer and the moment you start typing on the keyboard, the task bar goes back to normal.

    In tablet mode, the emojis', the suggested words, the microphone button all go back to where you know and love them. The only thing that's changed is that at long last we get the virtual joystick from windows 10 mobile. But the adaptive task bar is still active. If the developer of the app being used deems it necessary, functions can pop up automatically in the taskbar the same way they would in desktop mode.

    This could be something developers could tap into to make it more adaptive, more contextual to their apps. remember that void I created when i removed the abc on screen button? Imagine you're using an app and suddenly, the apps pin in the task bar flashes or something happens on screen to suggest using the Adaptive task bar. Windows key . and rather than emoji, you get what ever the developer feels you need for that app. That far left button can take you back to the emoji menu. The far right button that used to be the backspace is now a more items button if it's applicable. I tablet mode, the emojis would stay where they are now. In the on screen keyboard along with the microphone. But if needed, the tablet mode task bar can call up the extra functions as deemed by the app in use.

    No one ever said the task bar had to be something static tool, but thats just my opinion. Whats say you?
    Last edited by Roman DeSilva; 01-14-2018 at 07:45 PM. Reason: entire paragraph vanished for some reason. added it back.
    01-14-2018 07:35 PM
  2. DOGC_Kyle's Avatar
    For live content/actions: don't we already have this with the badges and jump lists? The badge shows the same number as the tile, and the jump list provides quick actions (granted, it's more of a hidden feature, and few apps use it). People icons also show incoming emoji, although that's not a terribly useful feature (but does illustrate your idea well).
    Now, what could be cool is if the live tile was integrated into the taskbar icon, like hovering over the icon would show a flyout with the live tile's information (such as subjects/senders of unread emails, upcoming calendar events, weather). That is something I could see working.

    For contextual actions: why would you want to look all the way down at the bottom of the screen? Most of these options are far more useful being where the cursor is; in the context it's referring to.
    The emoji keyboard makes sense to be where you want the emoji to be inserted. Text formatting (something on the mac touch bar) makes most sense near the text itself (as MS Office has it). Any app commands should follow this pattern too.
    Contextual options should always be put near the context, that's the whole idea of having them be contextual. The implication is that they refer to a specific option, they're not global actions. Even for global/non-contextual app commands, they should be within the app's frame, especially if multiple apps are on-screen. In this case, the "context" is the app itself, and thus the actions should be near that app.

    Building on that, on a screen where the taskbar would be useful to have (a desktop PC with multiple apps open), there will usually be enough screen space, that hiding the taskbar (and showing other actions in its place) is not necessary, and would only cause a (often jarring) transition, because the taskbar is considered a central point of the Windows shell, the one place where everything that is currently running, or could be started, is managed from. It's the master control for Windows.

    So yeah, don't mean to be harsh, but I don't see this working.


    The mac touch bar sorta works because it's near your hands (if you're typing), but I personally don't really see the benefit. I'd still have to take my eyes off the screen, when I could just use my thumb (while typing, as my thumbs would rest near the touchpad) to move the cursor, which is already where I'm looking, to click whatever action I need. I've never used the mac touch bar though, just seen pics and video of it.


    Oh and a bit of an aside, but Win+H brings up a small dictation bar anywhere. It's identical to the one on the touch keyboard panel, but just without the keyboard part.
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    01-14-2018 11:01 PM
  3. justjun555's Avatar
    [ATTACH] I would love to see this concept of digital touchpad implemented again in modern laptops.
    Just like apple touchbar this concept can utilize various functions such as to bring media playback controls,various apps specific controls,with support of digitizer pen it can be used for writing quick notes as well and many more things possible depends on app developers.
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    01-15-2018 12:06 AM

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