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10-07-2011 03:41 AM
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  1. jalb's Avatar
    But man, I am on my "hotmail" page, and I will be damned if I can figure out how to use it. I thought I had an @live.com email address, but when I send email to it, nothing shows up. If I send to @hotmail.com, I get a permanent failure.

    What I would like to do is really sip the Kool-aid and use my phone for a month the way Microsoft wants me to use it, and completely forgo all of my Google stuff, and see what my experience is. But I think maybe MS could use a little TLC in the user interface department on this Live page, lemme tell ya.
    cj-m likes this.
    10-03-2011 09:33 PM
  2. ninjaap's Avatar
    I have shed all google services, except for Reader. I can't seem to find a MS version.
    10-03-2011 09:37 PM
  3. Winterfang's Avatar
    The only Google service I use is Youtube. And I'm still angry about being forced to made a Google account.
    10-03-2011 09:52 PM
  4. jalb's Avatar
    Hmm, here is a problem. My @live.com email address is actually a whole 'nother Live ID. I wonder if I can merge them somehow... I am hestitant to create a whole new email address... but my existing Live ID has my Xbox on it.....


    argh.
    10-03-2011 09:54 PM
  5. ronclone's Avatar
    Come on guys... I get it. But google maps and search are better than bings... As for hotmail, never had a problem with it. Reader its unique though.
    10-03-2011 09:58 PM
  6. Coffee's Avatar
    Hmm, here is a problem. My @live.com email address is actually a whole 'nother Live ID. I wonder if I can merge them somehow... I am hestitant to create a whole new email address... but my existing Live ID has my Xbox on it.....


    argh.
    I don't know which one is which, but you can add an email address to your hotmail address in the account settings, get all your email in one inbox.
    10-03-2011 10:02 PM
  7. jalb's Avatar
    I don't know which one is which, but you can add an email address to your hotmail address in the account settings, get all your email in one inbox.
    Right... but it wont let you add an existing live.com address. It has to be some other address or a brand new live account.
    10-03-2011 10:03 PM
  8. Coffee's Avatar
    Come on guys... I get it. But google maps and search are better than bings... As for hotmail, never had a problem with it. Reader its unique though.
    I agree that there's simply no reason to try to go full-bore, even though I am mostly in Live services myself.

    It's a good idea to use the services that are integrated into the OS you use, but I wouldn't go transferring everything over unless you really think it will be an advantage to you.
    10-03-2011 10:03 PM
  9. jalb's Avatar
    Turns out you can link them! Yay me!

    EDIT: Oh, that just lets you switch between them.
    10-03-2011 10:04 PM
  10. J4rrod's Avatar
    Come on guys... I get it. But google maps and search are better than bings... As for hotmail, never had a problem with it. Reader its unique though.
    I can't compare the maps, but Bing's get me where I need to go everytime. As for search, Bing is better. Sorry. I've ran multiple tests.
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    10-03-2011 10:04 PM
  11. jalb's Avatar
    Come on guys... I get it. But google maps and search are better than bings... As for hotmail, never had a problem with it. Reader its unique though.
    I'm just doing it for fun. I'm a dork.
    10-03-2011 10:04 PM
  12. J4rrod's Avatar
    But man, I am on my "hotmail" page, and I will be damned if I can figure out how to use it. I thought I had an @live.com email address, but when I send email to it, nothing shows up. If I send to @hotmail.com, I get a permanent failure.

    What I would like to do is really sip the Kool-aid and use my phone for a month the way Microsoft wants me to use it, and completely forgo all of my Google stuff, and see what my experience is. But I think maybe MS could use a little TLC in the user interface department on this Live page, lemme tell ya.
    I don't think it's really a problem with MS. I use all LIVE services and never have encountered this. What LIVE address are you using on your phone?
    10-03-2011 10:05 PM
  13. ninjaap's Avatar
    Come on guys... I get it. But google maps and search are better than bings... As for hotmail, never had a problem with it. Reader its unique though.
    I guess its a matter of opinion. I have been using Bing search for almost 2 years now and I have found everything I need. Sure Google maps has arguably more features than Bing Maps, but so far I haven't missed it since I switched from Android.
    10-03-2011 10:05 PM
  14. Coffee's Avatar
    Right... but it wont let you add an existing live.com address. It has to be some other address or a brand new live account.
    is that new? I added two Live accounts to my hotmail in the past, both existing.
    10-03-2011 10:05 PM
  15. jalb's Avatar
    is that new? I added two Live accounts to my hotmail in the past, both existing.
    Maybe... when I try to just add my other live email address to my hotmail, it says "The email address is already taken. Please choose another one".
    10-03-2011 10:18 PM
  16. Winterfang's Avatar
    Come on guys... I get it. But google maps and search are better than bings... As for hotmail, never had a problem with it. Reader its unique though.
    lol I don't do it to be cool though. I mostly end up caught by MS ecosystem without knowing, like hey I have a PC, hey I got an xbox, oh I use live messenger and office and hotmail etc...

    As far as google, I don't really need any of their services except youtube.
    10-03-2011 11:08 PM
  17. Pronk's Avatar
    I can't see the point of ever going entirely one way for the sake of it (not that I could - I frequently use google search for work and bing simply isn't as good at getting the right results).
    10-04-2011 03:12 AM
  18. joemd60's Avatar
    I have had a hotmail account for years that I only recently activated because I thought it was required when you activate a Windows phone.
    I still use Yahoo as my primary email as well as Flikr for my photos. Sorry, but for some reason if Microsoft needs any polish.
    It's with Skydrive, I seem to find their photos rather inferior in quality and size.
    With that said I actually enjoy Bings search and maps, especially Bing's different homepage each day, with their bits of trivia about it.
    10-04-2011 04:31 AM
  19. jalb's Avatar
    Well, I finally got it up and running, but I had to switch my gamertag from one live ID to another, then reset my phone. It will be interesting if nothing else, to see where MS is in the whole "ecosystem" thing compared to Google, which I use extensively. I hope they release Skype and Lync soon.
    10-04-2011 07:29 AM
  20. archer75's Avatar
    I tried to do a full switch but couldn't do it. I prefer the look of google services. I prefer the features. Live services aren't bad but I just feel more productive in the google universe.

    I also need Google Voice and reader. I prefer google talk over messenger, gmail over hotmail and google docs over office. Calendars are equal for me, I can use either.

    The sole reason I don't use bing is because I can't filter by date.
    Last edited by archer75; 10-04-2011 at 10:40 AM.
    10-04-2011 10:03 AM
  21. Coffee's Avatar
    I'm more productive in Live services, but I attribute that to the fact that, prior to Windows Phone, I lived in Live, so using a windows phone was natural. The only real google service I used was gmail.

    If I was fully into Google, I'd have stayed with my Android.
    10-04-2011 10:07 AM
  22. theman60099's Avatar
    I dumped all my gCrap only thing I use is YouTube and barely even that because of all their dam restrictions.
    10-04-2011 10:25 AM
  23. J4rrod's Avatar
    I can't see the point of ever going entirely one way for the sake of it (not that I could - I frequently use google search for work and bing simply isn't as good at getting the right results).
    That's not true. In fact, why don't you find out for yourself? Blind Search

    Be honest with your results.
    10-04-2011 10:38 AM
  24. ninjaap's Avatar
    I agree that there's simply no reason to try to go full-bore, even though I am mostly in Live services myself.

    It's a good idea to use the services that are integrated into the OS you use, but I wouldn't go transferring everything over unless you really think it will be an advantage to you.
    Why not? That's what I did when I started using android. Its very easy to transfer contacts from Yahoo to Gmail and forward emails. And I did the same thing when I switched from Android to WP7. I do the same on my PC. I use Bing when I use IE and I use Google when I use Chrome. I don't see anything wrong with using the default as long as im getting the results I want.
    jaded skies likes this.
    10-04-2011 11:24 AM
  25. threed61's Avatar
    I switch back and forth quite easily. I think both gmail and chrome are better than hotmail and IE, but not by much. Search is a draw for me, same with maps. Google reader is unbeatable and iGoogle customization too. Windows phone kicks Android's ***!
    10-04-2011 01:39 PM
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