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  1. steve_w_7's Avatar
    After the fiasco of the Icon not getting updated, I'm moving on to either a Nexus or Motorola device so I get updates. And it wont be on Verizon either.
    The updates aren't a windows phone thing - its all on Verizon. You don't need to switch both platforms and carriers. If you like Windows Phone, simply moving to another carrier will solve the problem.
    mark233 and forked like this.
    12-17-2014 05:02 PM
  2. Simon Tupper's Avatar
    After the fiasco of the Icon not getting updated, I'm moving on to either a Nexus or Motorola device so I get updates. And it wont be on Verizon either.
    You get the Dev. Preview app. Problem solved (I think)
    12-17-2014 05:32 PM
  3. raycpl's Avatar
    I keep laughing with the blame game between US carriers and MSFT.... while in Malaysia (and the region), I think percentage of WP users is very much lower (dont have actual figures, just my observation), hardly any of the carriers promote WP phones. We usually buy WP phones unlocked. In all probability, we'll get Denim earlier....
    12-18-2014 02:45 AM
  4. DMCarver's Avatar
    I have been on both iOS and Android. The iOS devices are too rigid as far as software/customization and being locked down. I did jailbreak one at one point and that was a pretty nice experience. Best of app availability with jailbreak customization... but alas the BYOD rules at my work didn't allow for jailbroken devices... so I went over to Android.

    Again, highly customizable... but every Android device I have owned has become laggy at some point after installing 3rd party software on it. Not at first but after a while. Plus the battery was always getting drained by power sucking widgets. I was always looking to see which app was sucking the life out of the battery and uninstalling it.

    I sum it up this way for people...

    * If you are tech challenged ... then an iPhone is probably for you.... boring and simple but it just works.
    * If you are highly technical and want to be dallying with your phone constantly, tweaking it, etc. then go with an Android.
    * But if you want an elegant, balanced experience and a great camera phone (thinking Lumia line here) - then go with Windows Phone.

    Great integration with Office, OneDrive, Exchange, etc. The app gap is closing a bit and with the universal coding platform coming for Win10 (code once for phone/tablet/PC) then we should see the apps library grow.

    This is why I would stay with a Windows Phone. Plus - it is different that the rest of the crowds... when I show my phone to people who ask, I can tell they are impressed with it.

    Who wouldn't want a screen you can customize like this? (pics below)
    Everything you need on the one screen! No multiple pages to lag around through... No boring icons.

    These are just a few of the home screens I have used recently.
    winphone_home_screen.jpgwp_20140316.jpgwp_ss_20141126_0001.jpgwp_ss_20141218_0002.jpg
    12-18-2014 11:16 AM
  5. nohra's Avatar
    Who wouldn't want a screen you can customize like this? (pics below)
    Everything you need on the one screen! No multiple pages to lag around through... No boring icons.
    people.png
    Looks like Live Folders for certain people? Cool idea for creating a quick access list of contacts!
    12-19-2014 10:19 AM
  6. DMCarver's Avatar
    Looks like Live Folders for certain people? Cool idea for creating a quick access list of contacts!
    Yeah - I pinned friends and family to the start page, then put them in one folder. Then you have a quick contacts folder.
    nohra, dgr_874 and tropolite like this.
    12-19-2014 05:05 PM
  7. nohra's Avatar
    Yeah - I pinned friends and family to the start page, then put them in one folder. Then you have a quick contacts folder.
    Great idea! Did that to mine now - I had always wanted a better way to have fast access to a list of contacts. The "Groups" feature in People Hub was ok, but it had two limitations for me: 1) there was a limit to the number of people per group, and 2) It was kind of a pain to add a lot of users to a group.
    12-22-2014 04:01 PM
  8. raycpl's Avatar
    I prefer live folders for contacts, IE shortcuts and grouping apps... and together with Header tiles it makes my start screen more organized and compact!!
    nohra likes this.
    12-24-2014 12:14 AM
  9. nohra's Avatar
    I prefer live folders for contacts, IE shortcuts and grouping apps... and together with Header tiles it makes my start screen more organized and compact!!
    Yup! I am very happy that you can add pinned webpages to Live Folders! That cleaned up my start screen A TON! I still use Nokia Folders for some things (like image editing apps so I get a neat list with the app names to the side) but not being able to add pinned items to the Nokia Folders was a downside.

    I'm not sure, but adding a lot of things to the start and then to Live Folders has seemed to cause a LOT of lag in moving around the Start screen on my 920. Not enough to make me abandon use, but is this common for WP8 phones trying to handle the 8.1 update features? Do the more recent phones like the 830 suffer from the same lag or are the more fluid since they were made with the 8.1 features in mind?

    All in all, though, my 920 still feels like a fresh phone with the fact that we get the updates!
    raycpl and prasath1234 like this.
    12-29-2014 10:05 AM
  10. captainshiner's Avatar
    Going back towards the first post, I know what you mean. I was ready to upgrade from my Lumia 1520 (just too dang big) and I did take a quick glance back at Android. Within minutes of playing with some new phones I remembered exactly why I left. Lack of consistency and stability. Options vary from device (basic ones such as quiet times, menu item locations, etc etc.) I left Android because it was buggy, and just too dang segregated across the devices. I need something stable, period. Windows has thrown dozens of new features at us over the last year, and improved their app catalog at an amazing clip. It has everything I need.
    • Calling / Contacts / Family Room
    • Texting (hands free while driving too)
    • Swye Keyboard
    • Internet with IE
    • Skype
    • One Drive w/ Integration
    • Twitter / LinkedIn /Facebook / etc etc
    • Media - Xbox Music, Pandora, Youtube, Netflix, Hulu , etc etc
    • Podcasts
    • Banking
    • NFC Pay
    • Calendar (amazing one at that)
    • NextGen reader
    • Games (a large library now)
    • Remote Desktop
    • Shop (Amazon, Ebay, Groupon, etc)
    • Password Management
    • GPS (Here Maps is great)


    I really have a hard time finding something WP8.1 CAN'T do. And if there isn't an app, I usually find a perfectly acceptable work around.
    The phone is rock solid, the OS is rock solid, and it continues to do so as time goes on. I can't say that about any of my Android phones . I keep looking back at the competition, but can't afford to go back.
    prasath1234 likes this.
    12-29-2014 04:20 PM
  11. raycpl's Avatar
    Do the more recent phones like the 830 suffer from the same lag or are the more fluid since they were made with the 8.1 features in mind?

    All in all, though, my 920 still feels like a fresh phone with the fact that we get the updates!
    True about my 920.. not able find a suitable upgrade, so I'm holding out to see how it will run under W10. Will it be like a new phone all over again? I suspect a lot of users are in the same situation. Nothing to do with contract or changing phones just because new device on W8.1 or W10 are out.

    BTW, I also use a 720, it has taken quite a substantial hit on speed and battery performance after updating to 8.1 PfD
    Timbre70 and nohra like this.
    12-31-2014 01:52 AM
  12. adkrish22290's Avatar
    No, I don't feel like that at all. I love WP 8.1 and I don't think any other mobile OS can stop me from liking WP 8.1. Android is overrated rubbish, laggy, insecure and user-unfriendly. The UI also looks so bad that I feel like vomiting on seeing an Android UI. Also, I hate Google on principle for interfering with our privacy for their own selfish gain. Cyanogen-mod is just an unstable and even more insecure version of Android. Though I use iTunes (since WP has no other alternative to download legal music in my country), I dislike Apple and its fanboys for their anti-competitive and elitist approach, so I will never buy iPhones or Apple's other hardware products on principle. Blackberrys were OK until Android infiltrated it with its apps. Firefox OS and other open-source mobile OSs are just pathetic and even with massive improvement, they cannot dream to compete with the Big 3 (Android, WP, iOS).
    prasath1234 likes this.
    12-31-2014 03:29 AM
  13. emiel1976's Avatar
    I love my wp 8.1 a lot. I am not going back to Android that changed a lot sins I have had one but it didn't get any better in the past few years.
    ios is for me also no option and in Apple his own words about windows, it's a screen with icons. Hard to find the apps back as you have a lot of them and a very closed platform.
    As you have seen one iPhone 6, you have seen them all. With Windows phone you can give it your own touch. Also the live tiles are great. The thing that Apple decides what app is allowed and what you may do on your ios device is something I don't like. I want to decide self what I want on my phone and not what someone ells tells me. Maybe because I am Dutch.
    01-01-2015 12:00 PM
  14. tuxedo323's Avatar
    I've considered. I feel like this platform is in perpetual beta test mode. The two most used applications I use are the music player and the web browser. Both seem to be half-baked. It seems as though Microsoft has an idea then they abandon it because either they have a newer idea, more money, or the original developers are no longer with the company or working on the project. This is the mentality of a mega corporation... If it isn't wildly successful like it's competitors, scrap the idea and start new, and since Microsoft's pockets are deep, they do this alot. Staff and project churn are the norm. Look at Zune... Abandoned, Hubs....abandoned.... What the corporate suits in Redmond don't realize, is Apple may get attacked for having a boring OS that's never changed but they've remained consistent and never alienated it's users with drastic changes.
    ML10 likes this.
    01-01-2015 12:35 PM
  15. mikegtr's Avatar
    I have a problem with my wp8.1 (Nokia Lumia 530) , i saw on a friends phone (also a wp Nokia no sure witch one) after they tap on a contact in call history or in contacts it displays a contact profile asking if the user wants to call or send a message but on this phone it calls right away can that be disable (i often accidentally call people while swiping) if anybody knows please let me know i searched a lot but couldn't find it anywhere
    I am sorry if i shouldn't ask this here but i don't have the energy anymore to look for posts just want to know that if its not possible then i should get an android phone
    01-01-2015 02:49 PM
  16. steve_w_7's Avatar
    I have a problem with my wp8.1 (Nokia Lumia 530) , i saw on a friends phone (also a wp Nokia no sure witch one) after they tap on a contact in call history or in contacts it displays a contact profile asking if the user wants to call or send a message but on this phone it calls right away can that be disable (i often accidentally call people while swiping) if anybody knows please let me know i searched a lot but couldn't find it anywhere
    I am sorry if i shouldn't ask this here but i don't have the energy anymore to look for posts just want to know that if its not possible then i should get an android phone
    There should be a round icon to the right of the caller name. Click on that instead, and you will see their profile and will be able to choose phone or text.
    01-13-2015 03:33 PM
  17. chris722's Avatar
    I can see where you're coming from. This is the situation as I see it. There are two types of Windows Phone users. Those wanting greater compatibility with the Android ecosystem and those that are desiring Windows Phone to be a lot greater than what it is. The simple answer is that Windows Phone is different from Android on ways we can't articulate. Android is like, a popular girl; she's hot and everyone either wants her, or who wanted her has probably already had her. Windows Phone is the girl that isn't ugly or anything, but she had those idiosyncrasies. Maybe she's a hot nerd, or maybe she's weird when she talks. Your phone says a lot about your personality, and Windows Phone users aren't easily bought, and they aren't followers. They have their own theme music.

    I personally do not think there will ever be any flagship products from Microsoft. I don't think it's in their DNA. It is not their strategy. There are powerful Windows Phones we have considered to be flagships, but I'm not entirely convinced that they were.

    To further my analogy, I think Microsoft believes that the software is the popular girl, but they're not that sold on the presentation. People hate the thrift store mentality of the "girls", but the women are effective. It's as simple as that.

    Microsoft should do us one solid and give us a "Xbox 360", or "Surface 3", but I doubt that they ever will. If you do see a flagship Windows Phone, it will be from an OEM, not Microsoft.

    Now back to where I started; when I say greater compatibly with the Android ecosystem, I'm talking about Windows Phone apps either emulating Android apps outright or packing even more features than Android apps. I'm not talking about "Plan B"; that is a recipe for disaster. Windows Phone apps, whatever they offer, need to take advantage of the Windows Phone hardware, not chase it's own tail by offering a better version of what already exists on Android. A lot of people will disagree with me, but I think that WP has something to offer, not, "well this is available on Nintendo and it should be available on Sega".
    01-13-2015 03:54 PM
  18. foxp3's Avatar
    I'll start this post by saying that I'm not planning on switching away from WP, BUT it's starting to feel like unconditional love.

    Let me explain myself.

    I bought this nice Lumia 920 almost three years ago and it was a really good phone. I liked it a lot. To me the fact that I can view webpages in desktop mode is something I wouldn't want to lose. It is extremely convenient.
    The camera is not what it used to be for some reasons, but it's still awesome in low-light situations. The phone does feel heavier, not because it actually is, but because all my other devices are lighter than they used to be... so picking up that beast feels like it's 3 pounds heavy when in reality its a lot lighter than that.

    So, why am I here today?

    I'm looking for a new phone since my contract with my carrier is over and I can pick whatever phone I want, but I can't... I could get a new iPhone or a new Android, but I want a WP and there's no such thing as a new WP. Even worse, there's only two I can get and it's the 630(I think) and the 830. Nothing worthy of an upgrade here or nothing i'd like to own for the next two years(if you prefer).

    Now add a little bit of "no flagship until later next year" and you can see where I'm going with this... I'm seriously considering jumping ship for the lamest reason there is: I have no patience.

    I had big expectations for WP and those expectations were fueled by MSFT's promises to double down it's WP efforts, but they did not deliver. Now I'm stuck with the feeling that I should jump ship if I don't want to be disappointed all the time. I'd love Microsoft if they released something good for the holidays, but they released a budget-friendly smartphone... again.

    Am I the only one in this situation? I feel like this OS is never going to be a strong competitor for iOS and Android, because Microsoft is too slow. They build up the hype and then they let you wait for months just to tell you it's not going to be what you expected or they destroy the hype with an axe (Xbox One). Another thing they do is showing off some great discoveries from their research lab, which are never going to be on any of their products.

    Microsoft is hard to follow and hard to trust... it's sad that I like their products so much, because I feel like it would be a lot easier to just buy an iPhone and upgrade whenever I want. You know they'll release a better phone every 6 months...

    Sorry if it was hard to understand... i'm French and for me English feels like speaking backwards.


    I was in the same boat and up in canada as well. Just got a lumia 930 and it is a solid upgrade from the 920. We have 2600 LTE band here and have been getting good (40mbps) data speeds. The 930 will hopefully run W10 well since it has relatively new hardware.

    Hope this helps
    01-13-2015 04:05 PM
  19. anon(9226130)'s Avatar
    Buy Android! I'm bought this Lumia 520 9 months ago and I don't like it very well. Why? Because I can't customize enough my phone. I can set start image and lockscreen wallpaper. But I'm not find any application which is make my lockscreen personally. In Android you can download lots of apps which is set new theme, roots your phone to more personalization and etc.
    02-02-2015 01:13 PM
  20. tiziano27's Avatar
    Both Android and iOS are better than WP. They have better design, better apps, better hardware.
    With Windows 10 Microsoft is improving the design.They will release a flagship phone, but what about the apps? The only way to solve the app problem is adding support for Android apps.
    Slovenix likes this.
    02-02-2015 05:03 PM
  21. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    IOS is far better than android in every way to me.

    But it isn't quite where windows phone is and heading towards for windows 10. Apps aside, IOS is not that much better than windows phone.
    02-02-2015 05:08 PM
  22. Slovenix's Avatar
    IOS is far better than android in every way to me.

    But it isn't quite where windows phone is and heading towards for windows 10. Apps aside, IOS is not that much better than windows phone.
    Why is iOS so much better.. I don't know what's wrong with Android flagships.. ? Now with Lolipop, endless possibilities, apps that work as they should.. (of course people always have issues) I must be lucky I never had any

    Also I hear a lot of random issues from people using their iPhone 6 like lags although they are total Apple sheeps.

    Only thing good about iOS is their exclusive apps.. Which every platform has

    If you think Android sucks that much, then you're doing it wrong lol.
    Last edited by Slovenix; 02-02-2015 at 05:21 PM.
    02-02-2015 05:11 PM
  23. realwarder's Avatar
    02-02-2015 05:18 PM
  24. Slovenix's Avatar
    I have really huge hopes on W10
    02-02-2015 05:27 PM
  25. FirstWatt's Avatar
    There are some annoying things with WP:
    1. Why on Earth it takes soo long to distribute updates? It's not a carrier problem, at least not in my country.
    2. How many times can you read "grab the App in the App store", and it's, in 90% of the cases, only iOS and Android.

    But what strikes me most is that Microsoft themseves are producing the better Apps earlier for iOS and Android than for their own system. This is unacceptable toward their (now also Hardware-) customers. There is a suggestion, but it seems I'm almost alone with my thoughts. As I cannot post links yet, look for
    "Microsoft's own apps should target WP first" on windowsphone uservoice.
    Or add https:// in front of this string:
    windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/6316790-microsoft-s-own-apps-should-target-wp-first
    02-03-2015 01:33 AM
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