1. bml203's Avatar
    Hi guys, I'm new here :)

    I'm looking into getting my first Windows phone. I'd love to get the HTC 8X, but there are a few things that bother me, the main one being the lack of support it seems to get compared to Lumia devices. Will I miss out on receiving important apps and updates if I don't get a Lumia device?

    Unfortunately none of the Lumia devices are right for me, the closest is the 920 but it's just too chunky, unless you guys could persuade me otherwise!

    Anyway, thanks a lot, your help will be appreciated :)
    pmhgeneral likes this.
    11-25-2013 06:10 AM
  2. pmhgeneral's Avatar
    Welcome WP Central forums, Always nice to have new members join in, ask questions and post in the thread's. Have you checked out the device forums a good place to get information on the 920 Lumia.
    Good Luck
    MSFTisMIA likes this.
    11-25-2013 06:18 AM
  3. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I'm looking into getting my first Windows phone. I'd love to get the HTC 8X, but there are a few things that bother me, the main one being the lack of support it seems to get compared to Lumia devices. Will I miss out on receiving important apps and updates if I don't get a Lumia device?
    HTC will release whatever firmware and OS updates that are necessary for the phone so no need to worry about that. It will get WP8.1 if that is what you are wondering. After that, who knows?

    Unfortunately none of the Lumia devices are right for me, the closest is the 920 but it's just too chunky, unless you guys could persuade me otherwise!

    Anyway, thanks a lot, your help will be appreciated :)
    I own a L920. Yes it's a bit heavy and seemingly bulky but you get used to it. The thing is a brick but I don't mind.

    The camera is amazing on the L920, the free Nokia apps are great to have. Nokia pushes the boundaries of WP OS which is both good and bad (a few issues with phones). The most unique experience you'll get on WP is from Nokia no other OEM puts as much effort in.
    11-25-2013 06:25 AM
  4. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    I've used both. Bought the 920 on release day a year ago. It is a great phone with a great camera...plenty of good reviews to read about it online. I only found one negative with the 920: it is a bit bulky. Don't get me wrong, it's not that big of a deal, but honestly, if you are coming from a Samsung or iPhone, you are probably going to be put off by the shape and weight of the 920. Everything else about the phone is excellent. It really is a great phone. Over the past 3 months, I have been using an 8X as my primary phone. The design of this phone is absolutely amazing. Very easy to hold and use. Quite a bit less bulky compared to the 920. Camera is average for a smart phone...nothing like the 920's camera. I have to say that, overall, I'm finding it hard to go back to the 920 at the moment. A case is a must for this phone though..the rubber coating stains easily. The only things that convince me to keep the 920 around are its camera and the awesome support coming from Nokia...oh, and its build quality is unmatched. HTC support is pretty laughable. So, if you want a very attractive, easy to use, compact phone with a fairly good camera, then go with the 8X. On the other hand, if you want an equally looking, equally easy to use, somewhat bulky phone with an awesome camera and lots of support, then go with the 920. I think the 8Xs are going for around $150 US on Ebay right now. The 920s are around $200 US, I think. Good luck.
    MSFTisMIA likes this.
    11-25-2013 07:02 AM
  5. iAdrian23's Avatar
    920 - Camera
    8X - Stunning Design

    I love my hTC very much despite the inferior camera and the lack of applications. The screen is about perfect size.
    11-25-2013 07:04 AM
  6. WinphonevietAgent's Avatar
    HTC 8x VS Nokia 920
    Storage:
    16Gb vs 32Gb
    Screen:
    Nothing vs Gorrila 2
    Touch:
    Normal vs super sensitive
    Collections App:
    Few vs Many
    Support:
    No vs Yes
    Design:
    Light vs heavy
    Camera:
    Normal vs Pureview, Low-light condition
    ......
    1 vote for 920
    paulxxwall and dznk like this.
    11-25-2013 07:12 AM
  7. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Since I own both, I will add in my two thoughts...

    It boils down to what your needs are. The 8X is honestly for people who want a solid WP8 experience with a very good looking package. The 920 is for people who want an excellent photography experience, bigger screen and more storage.

    8X over 920: weight, slimmer design profile, audio (Beats may be a gimmick for some, but the built in amp isn't - even when Beats is off the sound is still better), faster updates (especially if you have an unlocked model), better LCD panel (especially indoors), usually cheaper than 920.

    920 over 8X: more storage space, built in Qi charging (that and the LCD added to the weight), vastly better camera, better secondary apps, better LCD panel in sunlight, better valued added firmware update (aka support).

    Where are you willing to compromise? If you don't need all that storage space or aren't interested in the camera, the 8X will do. Quite frankly, while HTC hasn't been updating its WP8 apps at the pace as Nokia, it has been one of the first to release the OS updates. Lumia Black is coming next year. My 8X had Update 3 and it runs smoothly. I don't mind that my 920 runs Update 2, but the older multitasking is clunkier to use, frankly. 8X offers a great intro experience to WP8 in the high end bracket.

    If you're in the US, go unlocked. Expansys USA. They have the 8X for $260 with shipping and the 920 for $315 with shipping. If you're on AT&T, you can get those models cheaper in the used marketplace and with the 920 you can flash a Rogers ROM to get faster support.

    You cannot go wrong with either, but I'd suggest playing with both in an AT&T store to see what pops out for you better (some still have the 920 on display).
    11-25-2013 07:22 AM
  8. azcruz's Avatar
    To those who own both, which one sounds better?

    Edit: Sorry I didn't read the post above when I asked the question, which has been answered.


    Sent from my Windows Phone 8S by HTC using Tapatalk
    11-25-2013 07:41 AM
  9. DJRedLine's Avatar
    HTC 8x VS Nokia 920
    Storage:
    16Gb vs 32Gb
    Screen:
    Nothing vs Gorrila 2
    Touch:
    Normal vs super sensitive
    Collections App:
    Few vs Many
    Support:
    No vs Yes
    Design:
    Light vs heavy
    Camera:
    Normal vs Pureview, Low-light condition
    ......
    1 vote for 920
    Where did you pull that rubbish from?

    8X has gorilla glass 2
    the front facing camera is an ultra-wide F2.0 aperature and probably the best front facing camera on WP8
    the rear camera is still superb but doesn't compare to the 920

    support - I have found that even though HTC don't really support their WP8 range they do seem to receive the latest firmware first
    Apps - Yes Nokia have the exclusive apps but majority of the apps that people wish to use are available for all


    I do not have any regrets getting the 8X
    11-25-2013 07:43 AM
  10. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Where did you pull that rubbish from?

    8X has gorilla glass 2
    the front facing camera is an ultra-wide F2.0 aperature and probably the best front facing camera on WP8
    the rear camera is still superb but doesn't compare to the 920

    support - I have found that even though HTC don't really support their WP8 range they do seem to receive the latest firmware first
    Apps - Yes Nokia have the exclusive apps but majority of the apps that people wish to use are available for all


    I do not have any regrets getting the 8X
    People who like to knock Samsung and HTC seem to try to **** on the Ativ S and the 8X at every turn. HTC is a very good phone. In fact, I like more of the 8X's features than I do on the 920. Plus, if you look at the Nokia forums, they are littered with lemons people have gotten. Now, the 8X isn't problem free either - its lemon like issues are usually the SIM slot and the peeling off of the matter finish - but pretty much all the software bugs have been ironed out in Update 3.

    Again, if you're balling on a budget and want the most balanced overall experience from the Gen 1 WP8s, the 8X is the way to go. If you need the camera, then the 920 is the get.
    Scienceguy Labs likes this.
    11-25-2013 08:04 AM
  11. bml203's Avatar
    Ok thanks for the responses guys, this is a really difficult decision! I'm swaying towards the 8X still, it's a bit cheaper and I've actually heard good things about the camera.

    Can I be certain it will continue to get updates such as Windows Phone 8.1?
    11-25-2013 08:07 AM
  12. PipoDj's Avatar
    Sure will get the updates as i believe MS says they will support the device within 36 months or something like that. BUT go get the Lumia, man.
    11-25-2013 08:12 AM
  13. ryan.kruger's Avatar
    I had both, and I can suggest the 920, especially in terms of camera.

    And all current "high end" WP8 devices are supposed to receive 8.1.
    11-25-2013 08:12 AM
  14. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Ok thanks for the responses guys, this is a really difficult decision! I'm swaying towards the 8X still, it's a bit cheaper and I've actually heard good things about the camera.

    Can I be certain it will continue to get updates such as Windows Phone 8.1?
    It depends on what you plan to use the camera to do. The 8X is ok for those casual type shots. If you want something with much more versatility, the 920's camera makes up for the weight and other cons.

    It will get 8.1. It was the one of the two official flagship phones when WP8 was launched (other is the 920).
    11-25-2013 08:16 AM
  15. WinphonevietAgent's Avatar
    Where did you pull that rubbish from?

    8X has gorilla glass 2
    the front facing camera is an ultra-wide F2.0 aperature and probably the best front facing camera on WP8
    the rear camera is still superb but doesn't compare to the 920

    support - I have found that even though HTC don't really support their WP8 range they do seem to receive the latest firmware first
    Apps - Yes Nokia have the exclusive apps but majority of the apps that people wish to use are available for all


    I do not have any regrets getting the 8X
    Sorry dude, my mistake.
    Yes, i forgot about front cam.
    But the GDR3 update for 8X, it is not from HTC, it is from Microsoft. Lumia GDR3 update is Nokia Black( or Nokia Bittersweet Shimmer). And it is released by Nokia, not by HTC. Just like the Amber. So Nokia: 1, HTC: 0
    11-25-2013 08:24 AM
  16. iAdrian23's Avatar
    I would like to add that
    • 8X: Beats do work especially when you use high quality headphones
    • 920: There are many great lumia~photography apps
    11-25-2013 09:56 AM
  17. WinphonevietAgent's Avatar
    I would like to add that
    • 8X: Beats do work especially when you use high quality headphones
    • 920: There are many great lumia~photography apps
    dolby on 920
    11-25-2013 10:26 AM
  18. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    dolby on 920
    Which ain't worth a damn. Actually, the Dolby on the HTC WP7 devices is still better than anything on Nokia's WP8. People like to **** on Beats, but audio overall is a weakness on WP8.

    The 8X has a built in amp that does make a difference...kinda like how having OIS makes a difference in the camera for the 920...
    11-25-2013 10:36 AM
  19. Dadstar0410's Avatar
    And for those who are saying that HTC doesn't release any other updates besides the ones that are required, all the major updates (GDR1-3) have had at least one HTC update to go along with it. They seem to hate annoying its users with all these updates sporadically being handed out, so they just wait for the big updates to dish them out. Obviously nothing like Amber or Bittersweet Shimmer, but the support is there because they are releasing their own updates as well.
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    11-25-2013 11:32 AM
  20. xandros9's Avatar
    And for those who are saying that HTC doesn't release any other updates besides the ones that are required, all the major updates (GDR1-3) have had at least one HTC update to go along with it. They seem to hate annoying its users with all these updates sporadically being handed out, so they just wait for the big updates to dish them out. Obviously nothing like Amber or Bittersweet Shimmer, but the support is there because they are releasing their own updates as well.
    while nothing like Amber and stuff, does HTC push out any extra features unique to their phones?
    11-25-2013 01:00 PM
  21. gapost's Avatar
    I've had the 8x and the 928. The 8x is sleek and sexy. The sound is much, much better than the 928. I am assuming try 920 and 928 are similar. However, Nokia is Windows Phone now and if HTC was pushing WP as much as Nokia, I would say 8X hands down. However, they aren't so I have to go with the Nokia.
    11-25-2013 01:10 PM
  22. Ray Adams's Avatar
    As owner of both phones I can say, only 920.
    HTC must not release anything for WP as they don't give a sh%% about this platform. Just look what applications did they release for WP and compare it with all Nokia's efforts.
    When I bought 920 after 6 months of using 8X, I was angry on myself for not buying 920 at that time when I switched back to WP.
    I was scarred about 920 weight, 8X looks 100% better , but the camera is awful, only 16 gb storage, no SD card. Not even gyroscope in phone! And this meant to be flagship phone? Hell, no!

    So do not make mistake like I did, buy 920/925 or even 1020. You won't be disappointed
    11-25-2013 01:38 PM
  23. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    You know, let's be honest here. HTC (with some fault of their own) is cash strapped. I'm not here to apologize for their screw-ups but I think people bash their "lack of support" a tad too much. The 8X was marketed as a premier phone, the best phone for those wanting a balanced experience. Not everyone wants to be an amateur shutterbug. Not everyone wants a heavy phone. Not everyone wants a big screen. HTC isn't in a position to pour as much money into WP as it can in Android because its resources are stretched thin. That's why they wanted MSFT to loosen up some of their restrictions to maximize their hardware and make it more cost effective to use the same hardware for both Android and WP. We praise Nokia for all their innovation, and while rightly so, they HAD NO CHOICE BECAUSE THEY PICKED ONE OS -WP. So how else are they gonna sell phones if they don't offer outstanding after support? Now, my question to folks is this: once MSFT closes the deal with Nokia, does that automatically mean all the Lumia users will get the same support they've grown accustomed to?

    So, OP, it still boils down to your needs. The 8X is a good option that will get 8.1. You really cannot go wrong between both.
    Dadstar0410 likes this.
    11-26-2013 12:19 AM
  24. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I owned both and I left the 8x and HTC side of windows phones for the Lumia 920.

    The lumia 920 is NOT that big/heavy as people make it out to be, though it is subjective.

    I've always recommended the windows phone 8x to people simple because while it does have a better look to it and the beats audio are great(though Nokia's music sound is very good), the fact is I do not trust HTC to support their phones for as long as Nokia will/would.

    HTC is in dire straits and they are focusing efforts on their android devices with windows phones in the closet until they decide to take them out and do something with them.

    Nokia has been behind Windows Phone every step of the way since coming to the OS and have long earned the reputation of being the best Windows Phone Manufacturer in my opinion.

    Plus you get twice as more memory with the 920(925/928) which will be even better vs the 16 GB of the 8x.

    ASide from making a pretty device, HTC has done nothing really to support windows phone...you'd think since HTC has been with windows Phone since pretty much it's entire existence they'd have built a more positive image but they honestly won't get my money anytime soon as they have done very little to warrant anyone to buy their phones...hence why no one really is except a small few(both Android and Windows Phone).
    Ray Adams likes this.
    11-27-2013 12:03 AM

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