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  1. rollindice's Avatar
    It's just amazing that Many W10M users are forced to migrate to another platform , am I the only person that thinks Nadella should've put more effort into mobile and uwp? How can your OS be relevant without a mobile platform, the numbers are growing daily about mobile usage , it's how world is connected and how it will be for quite sometime.
    dpz, senja1, Player Piano and 6 others like this.
    11-07-2017 02:13 AM
  2. BajanSaint69's Avatar
    How can your OS be relevant without a mobile platform, the numbers are growing daily about mobile usage , it's how world is connected and how it will be for quite sometime.
    Isn't this the point of the Windows Andromeda OS?

    Watching this space....
    11-07-2017 05:25 AM
  3. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    Because Microsoft is a software company who is taking advantage of those growing mobile numbers by providing software to every single mobile phone out there, not just the few they produce.
    fatclue_98 and anon(10324754) like this.
    11-07-2017 06:27 AM
  4. tgp's Avatar
    It's just amazing that Many W10M users are forced to migrate to another platform , am I the only person that thinks Nadella should've put more effort into mobile and uwp?
    I wish McDonald's would carry the McRib year round. Am I the only one who thinks their CEO, Steve Easterbrook, should go?
    11-07-2017 07:08 AM
  5. Immortal Lobster's Avatar
    It's just amazing that Many W10M users are forced to migrate to another platform , am I the only person that thinks Nadella should've put more effort into mobile and uwp? How can your OS be relevant without a mobile platform, the numbers are growing daily about mobile usage , it's how world is connected and how it will be for quite sometime.
    No.... I agree, his constant apparent disregard for the consumer space will lead to long term issues for the company. Making money now, but they don't have a consumer platform to call home anymore.
    11-07-2017 12:16 PM
  6. Guytronic's Avatar
    Moved to "Off Topic"
    aximtreo, libra89 and RumoredNow like this.
    11-07-2017 12:48 PM
  7. CrockettGTO's Avatar
    msft-20-yr.-stock-trend.jpg

    MSFT seems to be continuing its stock value growth trend, with Nadella it's (at least in short term view appears to be) accelerating.
    11-12-2017 10:29 PM
  8. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    It isn't his fault the people before him sat on their butts transitioning from WM6.X to Window Phone. The lead Apple and Google had over MS was insurmountable by the time Windows phone was released. No real top dev support. I'm glad Nadella finally put a nail in the coffin.
    ZantReve and Tien-Lin Chang like this.
    11-16-2017 09:55 AM
  9. rollindice's Avatar
    you wouldn't see other manufacturers selling Windows Phones on their site, why should we sell S8 or S8+ on our store site? http://forums.windowscentral.com/e?l...token=Fp9qiUBl , total Ludacris , yes Msft is a mobile company ,but you're gonna forego your One Core OS and put no effort whatsoever in your own mobile platform because your shares are low in mobile arena, it was low worldwide but it was good in many different markets. People are connected with mobile more than ever.
    11-16-2017 09:56 AM
  10. rollindice's Avatar
    Isn't this the point of the Windows Andromeda OS?

    Watching this space....
    so to you it makes sense to give up all efforts on W10M and focus on that then reappear and everyone should be running behind you like Windows Andromeda is the saviour of OSes? You need to keep people connected, get your developers to work, stop releasing so much on other OSes and focus on your own, give other OS trial or lite editions and all features will be experienced using a WM10 device.
    11-16-2017 10:02 AM
  11. HaroldLG's Avatar
    Microsoft is relevant in the enterprise market because users are acquainted with their software at home, not the other way around.

    My Lumia 640XL stopped working so I moved to a pretty decent Asus Zenfone 3. Coincidentally, at the office they moved to the Google platform. We also have a Roku at home, so we have Google Play Movies right there (also, with the killing of Groove I also feel that MS Films and TV will be next). We're actually considering buying a Google Home because it feels organic with what we have. My wife has an iPhone and I also gravitated towards Mac because I'm a video editor and I use FCPX. From being all in with Microsoft now we're debating if it's worth renewing office 365, other than that I have been sort of drifting away from MS without realizing it. I would say I wouldn't have begun to look at Google if it wasn't because my Windows Phone died and I couldn't find a decent replacement.

    Nadella said he didn't understand why the world needed a third mobile ecosystem. Well, it needed a MS option so Windows would stay relevant. The only MS product I still use is the Xbox; good thing Nadella was not the CEO back then, as the video game console market was already dominated by Sony and Nintendo, so he would probably wouldn't see the need of it.
    Last edited by HaroldLG; 11-16-2017 at 10:50 AM.
    11-16-2017 10:05 AM
  12. Vincent McLaughlin's Avatar
    At the end of the day, it is about money. However, if MS wants this Andromeda version of Windows to work, it has to focus on consumers, just as much as enterprise. It is those enterprise consumers that will be using the product. They are the ones that will determine if it is something that will be wanted and used, beyond work. With Microsoft's desertion of the current Windows 10 Mobile, MS will have a hard time winning any popularity.

    Yesterday, I decided to make the switch to a Galaxy Note 8. Sadly, it is nice to know that I can find apps that I want or will want. I have all the services that I used on my 950 XL, but in many cases, better updated.
    ZantReve and ClassicalMood like this.
    11-16-2017 10:06 AM
  13. kingtigre's Avatar
    Satya Nadella lacks the vision to commit Microsoft fully to the consumer space. He only has eyes for Enterprise and Azure.

    Anything that faces the consumer space is gravy. The meat and potatoes of Microsoft in this new millennium is in the cloud.

    Yes I wish Satya had the testicular fortitude to turn Microsoft into a consumer-facing, trendsetting, force of nature, like Apple. But that isn't how Microsoft got to the dominant desktop market share that it has. It got that way because of Enterprise...Plain and simple.
    ClassicalMood and Saeglopur89 like this.
    11-16-2017 10:10 AM
  14. Awhispersecho's Avatar
    Why do consumers and fans use what the stock of a company is doing as a way to defend what the company is doing. Just because the stock is going up doesn't mean it's good for the consumers. It means he's making board members happy. These are the same group of people that want MS or of the consumer space.

    I don't think people realize how huge a mistake their absence in mobile is. These are short term gains that will turn into future failure. It will be the end of Windows. MS as a consumer company will be nearly non existent at some point. People simply don't care about Windows and kids growing up now won't even be exposed to it. They use IPads, Chromebooks and iPhones. Schools use them and then they go home and their parents are using them.
    Even those of us on here will be using them as we will have no choice.

    People don't understand, Mobile is all that matters and a 10 inch tablet that makes calls doesn't count anymore than a 17" laptop does, they're only mobile by definition. Mobile is where it's at and where it will be and MS will not be there. That alone proves he's not fit to be the CEO of what was the only company that mattered in computing. It is also the reason why MS finds themselves scrambling to try and reinvent themselves. Doesn't matter what they do at this point. They will end up irrelevant to 90% of consumers in the next 5 years. They left the biggest market in computing, they won't recover from that.
    11-16-2017 10:10 AM
  15. VARUNGUPTA16061992's Avatar
    Yes I do agree with you. It's important to have mobile platform, as it's center point of everything today.
    Okay they have apps on Android. But how long can they rely on third party ecosystem? And how will u promote MS services on Google dominated platforms? How many are actually using MS services today on Android platform? Reason why WP could not take off was lack of proper Google apps and services on platform.
    Without mobile, there is big vacuum in the entire windows device ecosystem!

    From organizational point of view this may be good decision.. for short term.
    But in long run especially in consumer space Ms may see only limited success untill they have competing mobile device on table. With Chromebooks gaining android support and how well iPhone jells with macOS nd other iOS device .. Windows 10 may soon become second choice for consumers!
    And thanks to WaaS model consumers are already angry with Windows 10 due to buggy​ releases and too frequent upgrades.
    MS may be heading towards it's own created death...!!!

    And lastly they have already lost the trust of many wp loyals and developers who were actively investing in the platform.
    11-16-2017 10:16 AM
  16. Awhispersecho's Avatar
    You bring up apps on the other platforms and that is an issue as well. Take Cortana for instance. She's horrible on Android. So even if some people try her they will quickly realize she doesn't meet their needs and move on. That will end up killing Cortana the platform because those people will have no interest in any other device that runs that service.
    buffalosolja likes this.
    11-16-2017 10:20 AM
  17. Shaheed Malik's Avatar
    Microsoft was the first mobile ecosystem out of three left. They were only the third in sales.
    11-16-2017 10:22 AM
  18. Ricardo Dawkins's Avatar
    is Nadella the same guy that recommends people to replace iPad with computers while using his iPhone Pro ?
    ROFLMAO.
    Old_Mil likes this.
    11-16-2017 10:44 AM
  19. evillama's Avatar
    Going the way of IBM before them. Shame. It boils down to us fanboys wanting to be "proud" of MS in the consumer space but apart from Xbox and desktop Windows 10, they don't really give a hoot as demonstrated by their horrible marketing.
    11-16-2017 10:52 AM
  20. Cosmin Petrenciuc's Avatar
    Changing now the CEO probably won't resurrect Windows 10 Mobile. Maybe developing Andromeda will bring more interest for consumer space in Microsoft.
    11-16-2017 10:56 AM
  21. Yangstax's Avatar
    It's just amazing that Many W10M users are forced to migrate to another platform , am I the only person that thinks Nadella should've put more effort into mobile and uwp? How can your OS be relevant without a mobile platform, the numbers are growing daily about mobile usage , it's how world is connected and how it will be for quite sometime.
    Microsoft should split into two companies - one is Cloud & Enterprises and the other is Windows and Devices. Nadella can head the C&E company. But they need a new leadership who can focus developing the Windows and Devices which include the mobile devices. Killing off the WP will have devastating long-term implications to the entire Windows ecosystem which would damage the enterprise business as well. G.E. and Walgreen are leaving Windows for iOS is the early sign for the great exodus. Nadella is a Cloud guy and has no heart in the consumer business. He has to go as soon as possible before it is too late.
    Timmy212, teaglass and Allen Steen like this.
    11-16-2017 11:03 AM
  22. John20212's Avatar
    "After what happened with Windows Mobile, should Microsoft ditch CEO Nadella?"

    They most definitely should drop that anti-consumer *****, and fast; before he destroys the whole consumer division at MS.
    antongillu, Lych and Allen Steen like this.
    11-16-2017 11:05 AM
  23. theefman's Avatar
    Nothing will change. Ask the question, is Microsoft happy with where they are as a company? All indicators say yes so why would the CEO be removed because of a few fanboys hyperventilating on a fanboy website? Not to mention the money keeps on rolling in so no, Microsoft will continue to be irrelevant to consumers and they are happy with that. Time to stop being emotionally invested in a faceless corporation and let them do what they will.

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    11-16-2017 11:07 AM
  24. Doug Woolard's Avatar
    Microsoft keeps saying we want the Enterprise space. Well that portion is gone. No one is making a windows phone anymore. You had the opportunity to do something great with W10M and you were to arrogant to follow thru. Google as a platform sucks and you can't even compete with them. How sad. And now that is the only real choice we have. Look at what phone Bill Gates is using. Well as the saying goes. There's your sign.
    Allen Steen likes this.
    11-16-2017 11:13 AM
  25. Julius Angelo Garcia's Avatar
    It's just amazing that Many W10M users are forced to migrate to another platform , am I the only person that thinks Nadella should've put more effort into mobile and uwp? How can your OS be relevant without a mobile platform, the numbers are growing daily about mobile usage , it's how world is connected and how it will be for quite sometime.
    I still chose to buy a Lumia 950xlbecause of the camera prowess.
    Okay, Nadella might be giving a loose on the loop for Windows 10 mobile but I think, he could stay. He could be an adviser or still be part of the Microsoft, but a new leader that has a brighter and more feasible idea of how Windows on mobile should go, should be selected.

    The head of Microsoft should be more than just a bright mind. He must also be able to listen to the customers, listen to the employees, and be able to translate it to a future-proof product and services. I agree that Microsoft apps can be called "universal" just because it can be on any platform. But hey man, I also think that having a windows on a small form factor is also a bridge to more consumer and a better ecosystem.

    If Microsoft can only sell a smaller Surface Pro that can fit on two hands or even smaller, that will be fine. One architecture with variety of form factors. :D Those days are still far beyond.
    antongillu likes this.
    11-16-2017 11:36 AM
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