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  1. FAHMI BASSEM's Avatar
    Twitter if filled with apple stuff before during and after its events, apple related hashtags are at the most popular on twitter (more than 5 #)!!!
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    06-05-2017 02:59 PM
  2. LumiaInspire's Avatar
    Hey, I am not sure. After the presentation of Surface Laptop I thought like 'damn, they got Apple'. I mean, Microsoft tries more and more to produce completely HighEnd devices. With Surface Laptop they created a lifestyle product. They were on many fashion blogs... But I think they still have to do a lot of work to become more like Apple. Many people don't even know Microsoft apart of Windows. They mostly see MS as the old nerdy company. But I hope they get more popular and open some Stores in Europe eg.
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    06-05-2017 03:10 PM
  3. erfanjafar's Avatar
    Hopefully when we see full windows running on phones. I would definitely brag about it when thats a real thing. Will have to see what surface phone brings. We can expect more universal apps if full windows becomes mobile!
    06-05-2017 03:58 PM
  4. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    If Microsoft wants to be considered cool they need products that aren't just for work and school. Smartwatches, something like Android Auto/Carplay, a home assistant like Alexa or Google Home would all help. As cool as the Surface looks, it's a computer. Computers aren't cool. They're commodities.
    06-05-2017 04:41 PM
  5. PerfectReign's Avatar
    Yeah, while not 'cool' the devices are worthwhile. Keep in mind that Jobs worked very hard to make a cult like following for Apple products. Far cry from when my HS friends laughed at my Apple IIe when comparing to their far 'cooler' Commmodore and Amiga computers.
    06-05-2017 05:14 PM
  6. TgeekB's Avatar
    Yeah, while not 'cool' the devices are worthwhile. Keep in mind that Jobs worked very hard to make a cult like following for Apple products. Far cry from when my HS friends laughed at my Apple IIe when comparing to their far 'cooler' Commmodore and Amiga computers.
    Yup. I had the first iPhone (still have it in a box somewhere) and everyone though it was terrible because it had no physical buttons. "It will never catch on" I believe is what many said.

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    06-05-2017 05:47 PM
  7. KJones75's Avatar
    I think MS's "cool factor" is definitely growing fast, except maybe in the phone arena.

    I just had people asking me about my Surface Pro 3 (which is what, 3 years old now?) at a meeting today, and they seemed really impressed.

    And the Surface Studio announcement last year definitely got a lot of attention.
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    06-05-2017 07:16 PM
  8. anon(10215379)'s Avatar
    Good question Fahim. Just watched the WWCD 2017 keynote and my answer is no. Not right now or in the near future. Not if they don't up their game in apps and mobile phones. MS is too focused on productivity software IMHO.

    For example, there is no car play alternative - as some have noted no, smart watch (MS should not have killed Nokia's first gen smart watch. Instead, they should have sold it along side the MS Band. Can you imagine the MS band functionality in the Nokia smart watch design?) and no amazon echo equivalent.


    As I watched the keynote I was impressed by how much Apple values its developers. Apple has built a foundation starting with the great iPhone, a stunning apple store full of apps from which other technologies and innovation can sprout from. MS mobile OS is amazing, Windows 10 is finally the great, what we have always wanted. MS has so many good things but no synergy between them. The Apple ecosystem has great synergy. This inspires creativity which in turn pushes innovation and the fun factor. Plus Apple just has a better sense of marketing, of pantomime and event than MS.

    One day, maybe, MS will be just as fun as Apple but it has a long way to go.
    Laura Knotek and ajcletus500 like this.
    06-06-2017 07:01 AM
  9. ajcletus500's Avatar
    Hey, I am not sure. After the presentation of Surface Laptop I thought like 'damn, they got Apple'. I mean, Microsoft tries more and more to produce completely HighEnd devices. With Surface Laptop they created a lifestyle product. They were on many fashion blogs... But I think they still have to do a lot of work to become more like Apple. Many people don't even know Microsoft apart of Windows. They mostly see MS as the old nerdy company. But I hope they get more popular and open some Stores in Europe eg.
    With W10M and phone they messed up their brand image.
    But I think with the surface line up all of that will probably change. Also if the surface phone really does come out I can hardly image the revolution that will come out in the mobile industry
    06-06-2017 11:04 PM
  10. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Brand image varies from country to country- some have little to no experience with either companies while some have had a good exposure to both companies

    I believe when the surface studio launched, surface book, surface pro and surface laptop - those were deemed very interesting by many - the surface studio garnered a lot of interest at the time as well
    06-07-2017 12:50 AM
  11. Rainar Angelo's Avatar
    I think the "Surface" lineup definitely has heads turning. However, in India, people are still "apple, apple apple" while there are much better options out there (even barring the surface lineup). It would take a lot of efforts from MS to achieve this...
    06-07-2017 08:25 AM
  12. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    For my two cents worth on this I will put it this way.

    Microsoft is too used to dealing with enterprise IT professionals and has very little to no experience with consumers, even though they produce consumer products.

    We can talk about brand till we're blue in the face but when people hear Microsoft, they think work, productivity and PC. They might think XBox if they're into that sort of thing.

    People buy laptops because they need to do something. They buy Office and other MS software and services for the same reason. There is no personal attachment to these things other than 'I need to do X'.

    This is the main difference between Apple and MS. Apple is a consumer focused company. MS is not and it's very very obvious. If MS wants to be 'cool' it has to change it's focus, either that or split the company in two so they can focus properly.

    On another thread here there's been a supposed leak of the 'Surface Phone'. If the images are real (I doubt it) but lets say they are, MS is way off track. Those things are Fugly.

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    06-07-2017 10:27 AM
  13. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    I think Microsoft is actually gaining a bit of a "cool factor" with their Surface line of products. They're nice, and beautiful, and can do things Apple fans can only dream of with their Macs. But it'll be a long while before Microsoft is the "new Apple."

    I would like to add that I think if any company can do it, it's Apple, and that I also think Apple is slowly losing that "Apple-ness" that other companies seek so hard. They're not the innovators anymore. Every year it's less about innovation and more about being the most powerful, which used to be how Windows OEM's did it. And it's like they're making changes just for the sake of changes. They've hit a wall with iOS's UI/UX design and now they're just moving things around and changing things for no real reason. I personally think the new design for the Control Center, notification center, and App Store are atrocious. Apple makes great products but lately it feels like they're coasting. Then you have Microsoft releasing things like the new Surface Pro and the Surface Studio, and working to build one operating system to rule them all with an adaptable and fluent UI design that marries consistency with beauty. Microsoft isn't there yet, but they're closing fast.

    All that's left for Microsoft to do is actually transition from that "nerdy company" to a modern, open company that can properly communicate with their consumers and bring products to the whole world in a timely fashion. And for them to figure out what the fluff they're doing with Mobile.
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    06-07-2017 11:16 AM
  14. Drael646464's Avatar
    Nothing stays cool forever
    06-07-2017 11:26 AM
  15. PerfectReign's Avatar
    Nothing stays cool forever
    I used to be cool.

    Then I had teenagers.
    06-07-2017 02:59 PM
  16. dov1978's Avatar
    Surface products have gave Microsoft some cool factor back as well as being great products....but I can't help but think it's only a matter of time before they take their eye off the ball and blow it all (again?)
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    06-07-2017 03:25 PM
  17. anon(10215379)'s Avatar
    Drael646464 Nothing stays cool forever
    Hear, hear! But you got to try though
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    06-08-2017 08:28 AM
  18. jallister's Avatar
    Yup. I had the first iPhone (still have it in a box somewhere) and everyone though it was terrible because it had no physical buttons. "It will never catch on" I believe is what many said.

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
    If you still have it are you looking to sell it? Because if so, I’ll buy.
    06-11-2017 06:50 AM
  19. docsp1's Avatar
    For People who dont care for Coolness but for a good bargain and a secure Operating System Windows Mobile stands on Top.
    06-11-2017 07:08 AM
  20. cactuspete23's Avatar
    It IS possible, but not likely the way MS Markets their stuff. And Apple stuff is only cool for the folks who insist on Apple only...IMHO
    06-11-2017 07:35 AM
  21. TgeekB's Avatar
    If you still have it are you looking to sell it? Because if so, I’ll buy.
    No, that's something I'll hold on to.

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    06-11-2017 07:36 AM
  22. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Cool isn't necessary. The Toyota Camry is as antiseptic as cars get, yet they're consistently in the top 5 in sales. Year after year. Number 1 since the mid 70s is America's toolbox, the Ford F-series.
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    06-11-2017 11:27 AM
  23. TgeekB's Avatar
    Cool isn't necessary. The Toyota Camry is as antiseptic as cars get, yet they're consistently in the top 5 in sales. Year after year. Number 1 since the mid 70s is America's toolbox, the Ford F-series.
    Camry's are pretty cool. What makes them cool is they're reliable. 5/5 from U.S. news. People keep buying them.

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    06-11-2017 12:23 PM
  24. dgrn23's Avatar
    It IS possible, but not likely the way MS Markets their stuff. And Apple stuff is only cool for the folks who insist on Apple only...IMHO
    I agree. MS needs a marketing maverick to expand their presence in the consumer space. They have a wonderful family of products with the Surface line - it competes in price (in comparison to Apple and not to mention the extremely price competitive devices manufacturers are creating) and in style/design.

    MS is trying to master one OS for all, and it will be an arduous road to master marketing to enterprise and consumer buyers. They're such PC (of old) when it comes to consumer marketing. They definitely need that Apple flair in that regard.

    Idk why, but I'm optimistic that they can do it.
    06-11-2017 12:55 PM
  25. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Camry's are pretty cool. What makes them cool is they're reliable. 5/5 from U.S. news. People keep buying them.

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    We're older, reliable appeals to us. How many hipsters read U.S. News?
    TgeekB likes this.
    06-11-2017 02:22 PM
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