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  1. jancouver's Avatar
    i don't know. let's see. But i'm eyeing on the upcoming iphone 6s. i love my 1520, let's see what will Windows 10 mobile has to offer.
    09-07-2015 06:05 AM
  2. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    .... I really cannot think of a situation. I think this whole app gap nonsense is propagated and thrown around by trolls over and over.... LOL
    Think of: sport events, festivals, museums, schools, insurance companies, home alarms, car features, smart home apps (like for the heating system, lights etc) etc etc etc. There IS a huge app gap, denying this is not to be connected with the reality.
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    09-07-2015 06:06 AM
  3. johnh3's Avatar
    I have used Windows Phone since Nokia Lumia 800. But I recently bought a Sony Xperia z3+
    Was tired to wait so long to a new Windows Phone flagship. And so many apps still missing, bank apps and others.
    Still like the live tiles interface.
    But on the other hand all the Microsoft apps I use are now on Android anyway. Skype, OneDrive, Outlook, MixRadio etc..


    I have my doubt Windows 10 Mobile will change so much. The only other OEM that seems interested in it are Acer.
    I think the mobile guru Tomi Ahonen was right when he forecasted that Microsoft will pull out of the mobile business totaly around 2017, they will put there services on the other platforms.

    They can still remain in the tablet market, but thats another story. Not depended at phone carriers etc..
    09-07-2015 06:08 AM
  4. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    ...iPhone, and better yet, I don't get any help calls anymore. ..
    Because their phones does not work ? ;-)
    09-07-2015 06:09 AM
  5. portalfocus's Avatar
    Of course
    09-07-2015 06:28 AM
  6. TgeekB's Avatar
    Yes. I am in search of the perfect phone for me, one that has a solid unibody design. I have a Lumia 830 and I hate it - did I say I hate it? The flimsy back cover unclips (how does it [I]do[I] that???), the glass hits the ground, the battery flies nicely off in another direction, but the back -- now there's a loyal hero - remains steadfastly in my hand. I love crawling around to retrieve all the pieces, in front of people is particularly fun.
    Yet, due to my love affair with my HTC8X, I will continue the quest for the perfect Windows Phone - in my case, just one that doesn't fly apart would do.
    To be part of the app discussion, I'm exhausted. I just don't want to try a new app to see if it's fun, or because my friends love it, or because just maybe it'll make my life easier. I'm kind of old school and don't want to be staring at my phone all the time and miss what's going on around me (I'll probably get slapped here - or called a dinosaur). And learning a new OS is time consuming and for me, unnecessary. I left iPhone a few years ago to streamline my life, and I'm happy. I don't need a new app. For anything.
    Strange. My back snaps firmly into place and stays there. Are some of your tabs broken?
    09-07-2015 07:12 AM
  7. TgeekB's Avatar
    I've used all platforms and WP feels most natural for my needs. iPhone is a walled garden but certainly performs well. Android is the opposite, an open platform that never seems complete. Blackberry is lost in the woods and is now making an Android phone. Go figure. WP has everything I need to stay connected to work, school, family, etc. I love having a removable battery and SD card slot. I'm interested to see where 10 will lead them and if devs will take a liking. I'm really enjoying my 830 but will most likely get one of the new offerings too.
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    09-07-2015 07:26 AM
  8. jdpg2's Avatar
    Yes , its about the eco system, Google and iOS will never have a complete eco system. Both lack a gaming platform, Google has a fragmented phone operating system that is vendor specific and no true desktop presence. iOS has an aging phone os that doesn't function the same as their desktop.

    What MS has, that will only get better with time, is platform synergy that can only come from an eco system. I love the synergy between my phone, desktop, surface, Xbox one and band. Windows 10 (latest build) on the phone is almost there, and I can hop on any device and not miss a beat. Even if MS deploys many of its services to iOS and Android I cant imaging the work flow will be the same. When you factor in Continuum and Universal apps I believe the potential is huge.
    BritDad likes this.
    09-07-2015 08:09 AM
  9. gwinegarden's Avatar
    Absolutely.
    09-07-2015 08:41 AM
  10. gwinegarden's Avatar
    Think of: sport events, festivals, museums, schools, insurance companies, home alarms, car features, smart home apps (like for the heating system, lights etc) etc etc etc. There IS a huge app gap, denying this is not to be connected with the reality.
    Don't need or want any of them. Most people "need" apps because their friends have it or "just in case".
    BritDad likes this.
    09-07-2015 08:44 AM
  11. Anthony East's Avatar
    Yes definitely. I've never used an IOS phone as I won't be conned into buying one of their exorbitantly overpriced products. I dislike Android, particularly the almost constant updating of apps which sometimes locks up my tablet. I'm delighted with my somewhat ancient Samsung Ativ S and my much newer 640 XL. Yes I'm prepared to pay for a higher spec Windows 10 Mobile phone when they eventually appear, but for the moment I'm extremely happy with my 640 XL which meets all my current requirements. I will never go back to Android and there's only one app I miss, which is Moon + Reader. Unfortunately none of the Windows phone epub readers come close to it, but BookViser is an acceptable substitute until something better comes along. I really look forward to Windows Mobile and the higher spec phones that will go with it.
    09-07-2015 09:01 AM
  12. tomlabus's Avatar
    I've had a good experience withn the 1520. Not feeling any "app envy".

    What can I say, I like the design and find the other two mainstays not that attractive,

    Let's see the 950's
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    09-07-2015 09:27 AM
  13. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    As long as there's a Windows OS, I'll be using it. Whether that's on a Microsoft made device or a device made by another OEM, I'm not sure.

    But as long as Windows is an option in the mobile space, it'll be my OS.
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    09-07-2015 09:27 AM
  14. etrosce's Avatar
    If Windows 10 does not perform a big step forward in terms of quality on RTM... I will probably consider switching.
    09-07-2015 09:49 AM
  15. razukual's Avatar
    Yes, out of all the OS for a smartphone, I would say windows is the best. I'm a graphic designer, so it very important for me to be able to use social media apps, some camera effects, and have a decent camera, the lumia 640 gives me all that and then some. However, I will say I do like the Iphone OS, but the nonadjustable memory, has always bugged me, and now Samsung is doing the same thing.

    As for android phones, I hate them with a passion. They have too many bugs, and I know every phone has their own set of glitches, but at least Apple and Microsoft go out of their way to fix them. Android phones reproduce faster than bunnies, however did we fix all the major glitches in the previous version of the phone? No, but we did add all these sweet bells, and whistles, and you will but it anyways. An Example of this would be the Galaxy S4, and the Galaxy S5, the over heating, which put strained on the battery in the S4, was not fixed in the S5, a long with the terrible connection issues and hug amount of glitches.
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    09-07-2015 10:04 AM
  16. Ejwan2's Avatar
    I bought the 920 the first day it was available. I thought surely more apps will come in a little while. Well more apps have come, but many haven't. When a new product with an associated app comes out the apps will be ios or android, almost never windows mobile ( Sonos, Denon, Smartthings, and others).

    I am going to take a very close look at the new iphones. I am not fond of their (what I consider dull) user interface, but it does have the latest apps. The Apple design is also more aesthetically pleasing. I am not sure that paying the "Apple Tax is worthwhile though. $200-300 more for an Apple phone is a heavy upcharge for a phone.

    I cant believe Microsoft considers the 950s a premium phone. Functionally yes, but aesthetically it just another molded plastic blob. Even a simple metal band, ( ala the 830s), would dress up the lifeless plastic.

    Microsoft is adding some conversion features to Visual Studio which will allow ios and android apps to be easily ported to windows platforms. I expect this will be a great help for the windows desktop and phone over the next year. Hopefully this will alleviate the app gap.

    I am still on the fence. I will wait and see what Microsoft and Apple have to offer this fall. I am really leaning towards Apple though.
    09-07-2015 10:13 AM
  17. razukual's Avatar
    you could always buy a refurbish model at gazelle, plus if you break the phone, Apple will replace you model with a new one, for $120 dollars.
    09-07-2015 10:16 AM
  18. rapperman's Avatar
    At this point Windows phone is little more than a way to keep up with the times for me. I got kicked in the teeth like everyone else by purchasing the Lumia 900, and over the last couple of years I've used the Samsung Focus S, the HTC 8X, The Lumia Icon and most recently the Lumia 640. All were excellent pieces of hardware that were hampered by an OS that while elegant and fluid was several steps behind Google's Android and Apple's iOS.

    iOS simply works. Provides all the basics and seems to do them more reliably than Windows does. It's ecosystem is vastly superior and because the app store is strictly managed by Apple folks can be reasonably assured that malicious apps will not make their way onto their devices. There is no reason for folks to even attempt Windows if they are already invested here.

    Android offers unmatched versatility and customization at the expense of privacy and security. I like android but loathe the feeling that Google knows everything about me and is making money using that information. It's ecosystem is a large as Apple's and the OS is quite fluid (though some would say otherwise) but it just doesn't feel as stable as the latter's (Lollipop in particular has seemed like a disaster to me). Android's greatest weakness is also it's greatest strength... many manufacturer's, releasing many devices at a near frantic pace. This provides many upgrade options for the enthusiast but results in devices being abandoned by their manufacturer's far too soon in their life cycle.

    Blackberry's OS10 is a great operating system. Can't remember the last time it hiccuped on me. It's security is unmatched and it is the only OS that seems to know how to get multitasking right. It's native app ecosytem is worse than Microsoft's but it does allow the installation and use of android apps by including an android runtime environment (Not all apps will work, but a great majority of them do).

    All in all Windows still has a way to go in my mind. It's okay for the casual user but doesn't meet the needs of anyone outside of that. Microsoft's own apps are available on other platforms and seem to run better and have more features in those environments... which is totally frustrating!

    Microsoft has bet the farm and is promising us the world with Windows 10 but if the mobile version is anything like the desktop version I will be extremely disappointed; having had quite a few continuing issues even with a clean install.

    Long story short... I won't be purchasing a new Windows device any time soon. I will evaluate Windows 10 on my existing devices (the Lumia 640, and hopefully the Icon as well) and if I find that it meets my needs at that time I will reconsider.
    Last edited by rapperman; 09-07-2015 at 10:35 AM. Reason: clarity and grammar corrections
    09-07-2015 10:30 AM
  19. vEEP pEEP's Avatar
    I'd like to see more Love for Canada. Cortana does not work here. And if you choose a different region where Cortana works, well, all you searches are off, and times are off.

    That is just **** poor.

    Otherwise, the OS is great. Yes, I can't get certain apps, but I found work arounds. I hope that changes. Thanksfully one of my banks supports Windows Phones!

    Yup, I'd but another!

    Mr. V
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    09-07-2015 12:43 PM
  20. ltomovski's Avatar
    the main difference between the men and animals is that men do not repeat the same mistake .. so NO
    09-07-2015 01:11 PM
  21. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    the main difference between the men and animals is that men do not repeat the same mistake .. so NO
    I don't think that's the main difference between men and animals... And I've seen men make the same mistakes many times.

    Additionally, as you're implying that men learn from their mistakes, wouldn't you guess that Microsoft would learn from their past mistakes with Windows Phone? Or are you saying that Microsoft composed of "animals" rather than humans?

    Yikes...
    09-07-2015 01:47 PM
  22. trev81uk's Avatar
    Yep, absolutely. No doubt!
    I'm lucky enough to have a long standing, never failing 920 (personal) and a 930 for work and I absolutely love the OS.
    My only decision now is to whether move fully across to the 930 when my personal contract is up.

    Recently tried the other half's Moto G for a few days and it just wasn't me, nothing wrong with it (a little bit of lag).
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    09-07-2015 02:16 PM
  23. slivy58's Avatar
    Yep, absolutely. No doubt!
    I'm lucky enough to have a long standing, never failing 920 (personal) and a 930 for work and I absolutely love the OS.
    My only decision now is to whether move fully across to the 930 when my personal contract is up.

    Recently tried the other half's Moto G for a few days and it just wasn't me, nothing wrong with it (a little bit of lag).
    Everyone seems intent to throw in "lag" when referring to Android, all three of my WPs exhibit a certain amount of lag with some worse than others so what's the point?
    09-07-2015 02:24 PM
  24. Potzy2's Avatar
    Well, MS isn't making it as difficult decision as I'd hoped. Rolling with iPhone 6 ( after I thought I never would) and besides the live tiles, I don't miss it as much. 1520 was great but the size got old and I never liked any other model as much as the 920. Almost everything that made WP unique and forward thinking (hubs, People app, dedicated camera, etc.) MS has slowly stripped it away. Coupled with the loss of Nokia apps and really, what is worth holding on to?
    09-07-2015 02:39 PM
  25. ThaKrazyOne's Avatar
    Yes I would buy another Windows Phone. I currently have the 830. I used to have the 520, 920, 1020 and loved them all. I got my wife to ditch her old 4S for the 1520.
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    09-07-2015 02:57 PM
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