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  1. RavenSword's Avatar
    So right now I'm in the process of deciding wether I want to use all Microsoft services or all google services.

    So basically it's using bing, outlook.com, onedrive ,onenote , office 365, Outlook calendar/contact sync, skype

    VS

    Using google search, google drive, docs and sheets, gmail, google calendar/contacts , and hangouts.

    Or maybe I can just mix and match between them, but won't I lose functionality and them working together.

    also , do you guys think the privacy concerns with google are worth worrying about or should stop us from using and enjoying their services? I'm kinda 50/50 on it.

    I should note that I use a iphone and iPad, but I also use a PC. What do you guys think?
    07-25-2014 01:10 AM
  2. Stephen Vogel's Avatar
    On this forum you are going to get most folks recommend the Microsoft option. I also have an iPad and all Microsoft services work very well on it. That said, if you are outside the US I wouldn't recommend Bing as the results are very US centric and many location based searches will give you poor results on Bing.
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    07-25-2014 01:17 AM
  3. hotphil's Avatar
    I took the plunge and moved everything from Google, Apple and some others over to Microsoft. It was worth the pain in my view. Although they'll all claim to support each other's services, it was just too much hassle e.g. Google Calendars only sync into Outlook.com after >24 hours.
    I'm outside the US and I found Bing results pretty good. Took it a while to be as relevant to me as Google results, but Google had 10+ years of my search history to analyse. Bing's fine for me now.
    07-25-2014 01:25 AM
  4. RavenSword's Avatar
    On this forum you are going to get most folks recommend the Microsoft option. I also have an iPad and all Microsoft services work very well on it. That said, if you are outside the US I wouldn't recommend Bing as the results are very US centric and many location based searches will give you poor results on Bing.
    What MS services do you use on the iPad?
    07-25-2014 01:31 AM
  5. Stephen Vogel's Avatar
    I'm outside the US and I found Bing results pretty good. Took it a while to be as relevant to me as Google results, but Google had 10+ years of my search history to analyse. Bing's fine for me now.
    That's good to know. I might have to make more of an effort with Bing
    07-25-2014 01:32 AM
  6. Stephen Vogel's Avatar
    What MS services do you use on the iPad?
    Calender, outlook.com email, Skype, Office ( I have subscription) OneDrive. Microsoft Calendar and email sync quickly and easily with native ios email and calendar apps
    07-25-2014 01:37 AM
  7. RavenSword's Avatar
    Calender, outlook.com email, Skype, Office ( I have subscription) OneDrive. Microsoft Calendar and email sync quickly and easily with native ios email and calendar apps
    Well, the only MS product I own is a PC and a XBOX, So I was wondering if it made sense going with MS for calendar/contacts, online storage with onedrive, note taking with one note, email with outlook.com, and video calling with Skype? I know MS is really trying to be cross platform now. But they still are a major competitor to apple.
    07-25-2014 01:44 AM
  8. Stephen Vogel's Avatar
    Looking at it from the point of view of your PC, Google services look cluttered and visually unappealing on a PC in my opinion and there is very little iCloud support for PC so Microsoft services for me are ideal on a PC. All these services are also well supported on your i gadgets, even xbox music.
    07-25-2014 02:01 AM
  9. Great deal's Avatar
    So right now I'm in the process of deciding wether I want to use all Microsoft services or all google services.

    So basically it's using bing, outlook.com, onedrive ,onenote , office 365, Outlook calendar/contact sync, skype

    VS

    Using google search, google drive, docs and sheets, gmail, google calendar/contacts , and hangouts.

    Or maybe I can just mix and match between them, but won't I lose functionality and them working together.

    also , do you guys think the privacy concerns with google are worth worrying about or should stop us from using and enjoying their services? I'm kinda 50/50 on it.

    I should note that I use a iphone and iPad, but I also use a PC. What do you guys think?
    I was actually all Apple services, switched to all Google services and now all MS services and couldn't be happier and with the one platform coming, even more so.

    Gmail is rubbish, I have a trash account for subscriptions and use a gmail account for that. If you use desktop outlook (most of the business world does) then when you send/receive messages from people with gmail accounts you get messages with double line spacing, looks very unprofessional and you immediately know they have gmail. Outlook 365 v Docs? well the world uses Office, I run a IT recruitment company so see CV's every day in Word format, if I had docs id go out of business. Calendars - for good experience use either on Android or WP.

    Mixing and matching - just don't do it, stick to either google OR Microsoft you will most likely have some issue at some point if you mix it. I had loads.

    Privacy concern - Google have admitted all gmail emails are scanned both received and sent - what do they do with this info? probably sell it or most likely use to better target adverts at you.

    iPhone/iPad - I also have an iPad (and Surface Pro2) The iPad is my goto device for quick browsing/watching Netflix in bed and also in the kitchen when cooking as I don't care if it gets covered in flour lol. No issues with the apps I use.
    07-25-2014 02:36 AM
  10. RavenSword's Avatar
    I was actually all Apple services, switched to all Google services and now all MS services and couldn't be happier and with the one platform coming, even more so.

    Gmail is rubbish, I have a trash account for subscriptions and use a gmail account for that. If you use desktop outlook (most of the business world does) then when you send/receive messages from people with gmail accounts you get messages with double line spacing, looks very unprofessional and you immediately know they have gmail. Outlook 365 v Docs? well the world uses Office, I run a IT recruitment company so see CV's every day in Word format, if I had docs id go out of business. Calendars - for good experience use either on Android or WP.

    Mixing and matching - just don't do it, stick to either google OR Microsoft you will most likely have some issue at some point if you mix it. I had loads.

    Privacy concern - Google have admitted all gmail emails are scanned both received and sent - what do they do with this info? probably sell it or most likely use to better target adverts at you.

    iPhone/iPad - I also have an iPad (and Surface Pro2) The iPad is my goto device for quick browsing/watching Netflix in bed and also in the kitchen when cooking as I don't care if it gets covered in flour lol. No issues with the apps I use.
    I may get a MacBook one day (unless I can find a windows laptop that's as good) how do you think the microsoft services would perform there?
    07-25-2014 02:46 AM
  11. hotphil's Avatar
    You could run Windows your Mac
    And MS is putting more effort into their apps/services for iOS than they are for their own platforms. They should be good.
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    07-25-2014 03:00 AM
  12. D M C's Avatar
    If you are in USA then both are good but if you are not then no doubt Google offer superior services than MS.
    This according to services in my country.
    In my country most of MS services are totally cr*p.

    I think you should try both and decide yourself what is good for you. Instead of asking others.
    07-25-2014 03:17 AM
  13. Great deal's Avatar
    I may get a MacBook one day (unless I can find a windows laptop that's as good) how do you think the microsoft services would perform there?
    I had a MacBook Pro. Office for Mac came out and was a terrible experience, it was put together by a bunch of students, I hope its sorted out now! You could get Mac to run like PC but whats the point? it will be slower.

    I guess it all depends on your own individual needs. Before purchasing make sure the software/workflow you require works well. MS is committed to services across platforms so OneDrive, email will not be a problem. Its an individual choice though, perhaps you love the design (I do) and that's enough reason to get it :)
    07-25-2014 05:26 AM
  14. clvrbas's Avatar
    I use both Google Services and MS Services. They both have worked really well for me. What I have noticed (obviously) is they work seamless with h their OS (Chrome, Android, Windows, WP).

    On Android the suite of MS office works good with One drive and the built in email client handles email really well. In fact its a little better than WP email app.

    Over all I am a Windows and WP guy and I would go Microsoft all the way due to them moving unify their products.

    P.S. I know I mentioned Android a lot, I am trying it out see what people love about it. I am a WP supporter 100%.

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    07-25-2014 09:09 AM
  15. D M C's Avatar
    I had a MacBook Pro. Office for Mac came out and was a terrible experience, it was put together by a bunch of students, I hope its sorted out now! You could get Mac to run like PC but whats the point? it will be slower.

    I guess it all depends on your own individual needs. Before purchasing make sure the software/workflow you require works well. MS is committed to services across platforms so OneDrive, email will not be a problem. Its an individual choice though, perhaps you love the design (I do) and that's enough reason to get it :)
    Wrong.
    MS isn't commited to services across platforms.
    If they are then it's totally fake.

    Check Linux.
    Their isn't a single MS service.
    07-25-2014 12:22 PM
  16. paulsalter's Avatar
    When I was doing similar I ran both in parallel for a couple of months to see which I preferred, it was a pain as changing anything was double the effort (change contact on google, also change for ms), but doing this gave me a good feel for both ecosystems

    wouldn't say either was better, just different way of doing things and different look, I eventually picked MS services as for me their web apps are a lot nicer and I was getting a new Win Laptop at the time also though MS would be better overall
    07-25-2014 01:07 PM
  17. Great deal's Avatar
    Wrong.
    MS isn't commited to services across platforms.
    If they are then it's totally fake.

    Check Linux.
    Their isn't a single MS service.
    Are you trying to say you cant use Onedrive on an iPhone/iPad or Mac? Are you saying Office doesn't exist for Mac or iOS?
    07-25-2014 01:24 PM
  18. osallent's Avatar
    I am one of those who is moving from Google based to Windows based services. I started by getting the Surface 2 tablet and opening an Office 365 account, and from there naturally everything led to getting a Skype account, an outlook account, a Windows 8.1 laptop to better interface with Windows services, and now a Windows phone. Just about the only things Google I still enjoy are Youtube and Google as my default search engine on my laptop, though I find myself starting to use Bing more as my tablet and cellphone usage increase.
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    07-25-2014 01:41 PM
  19. RavenSword's Avatar
    I am one of those who is moving from Google based to Windows based services. I started by getting the Surface 2 tablet and opening an Office 365 account, and from there naturally everything led to getting a Skype account, an outlook account, a Windows 8.1 laptop to better interface with Windows services, and now a Windows phone. Just about the only things Google I still enjoy are Youtube and Google as my default search engine on my laptop, though I find myself starting to use Bing more as my tablet and cellphone usage increase.
    Honestly, I don't think I can go to windows phone, at least not yet. The app situation is still rather shaky and if rather see where the platforms at in a year or two. They're getting there , though . And while I would prefer a PC for my desktop (gaming), I'm unsure if I'd get a win 8.1 laptop over a MacBook. MacBook get better reviews than pretty much any windows laptop, and I've heard some windows laptop horror stories.

    I do like Microsoft though, I like them as a company. It's just I don't think I can use their devices for phones and tablets and maybe even laptops. So that's why I wanted to still use there services , but on my iOS devices and possible MacBook and desktop PC. (Note: only things I own right now are a family PC, iPad 4, iPhone 5s, and Apple TV. ) I don't have a laptop.)

    But I didn't know how well they integrated with iOS and mac in comparison to google because google has a active incentive to make their services awesome on all platforms. Microsoft is always going to favor windows devices, no?
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    07-25-2014 04:10 PM
  20. Great deal's Avatar
    Honestly, I don't think I can go to windows phone, at least not yet. The app situation is still rather shaky and if rather see where the platforms at in a year or two. They're getting there , though . And while I would prefer a PC for my desktop (gaming), I'm unsure if I'd get a win 8.1 laptop over a MacBook. MacBook get better reviews than pretty much any windows laptop, and I've heard some windows laptop horror stories.

    I do like Microsoft though, I like them as a company. It's just I don't think I can use their devices for phones and tablets and maybe even laptops. So that's why I wanted to still use there services , but on my iOS devices and possible MacBook and desktop PC. (Note: only things I own right now are a family PC, iPad 4, iPhone 5s, and Apple TV. ) I don't have a laptop.)

    But I didn't know how well they integrated with iOS and mac in comparison to google because google has a active incentive to make their services awesome on all platforms. Microsoft is always going to favor windows devices, no?
    If your setup works for you then great, no need to change it tbh. Many people end up 'tinkering' with the system and get nothing done rather than having a trusted system and be productive. Reason I changed was my needs changed so couldn't use Apple products anymore. If my needs hadn't changed id still be all in with Apple.
    07-25-2014 04:15 PM
  21. RavenSword's Avatar
    If your setup works for you then great, no need to change it tbh. Many people end up 'tinkering' with the system and get nothing done rather than having a trusted system and be productive. Reason I changed was my needs changed so couldn't use Apple products anymore. If my needs hadn't changed id still be all in with Apple.
    What needs changed that you couldn't use apple anymore if you don't mind me asking?
    07-25-2014 04:51 PM
  22. osallent's Avatar
    And while I would prefer a PC for my desktop (gaming), I'm unsure if I'd get a win 8.1 laptop over a MacBook. MacBook get better reviews than pretty much any windows laptop, and I've heard some windows laptop horror stories.
    I've had one or two windows laptop horror stories over the years, but the difference is that a decent Windows powered laptop can be had for $500-$600 these days, and if you only need a basic no-thrills laptop for regular use, you can probably find one with touch screen for $400-$500.

    In comparison, a basic no-thrills Apple laptop will run me for at least $300 more than a a very decent laptop with Windows. Also, if I want a decent Apple laptop (and not just the basics), I've got to spend $1,300 for the pleasure. I'd rather save the money and take the chance. It's been a long time since I last got a windows laptop that game me a horrible experience.
    07-25-2014 04:53 PM
  23. Great deal's Avatar
    What needs changed that you couldn't use apple anymore if you don't mind me asking?
    I use David Allens GTD system (Getting Things Done) and at home I had Mac, work was PC. Was a nightmare getting the 2 to play nice, couldn't change work so Apple had to go. Fast forward and I run a recruitment business, I looked at Apple but the software we use was only available on IE, that's changed now as its browser free however we have invested in the tech already and its much easier to stay with MS. I also believe that the next version of Windows will be something business has been waiting for.
    07-25-2014 05:09 PM
  24. D M C's Avatar
    Are you trying to say you cant use Onedrive on an iPhone/iPad or Mac? Are you saying Office doesn't exist for Mac or iOS?
    Which part of my comment you don't understand.

    I am talking about LINUX.

    Google also provide it's services to to iPhone iPad whatever.
    So, are they committed to provide it's services to cross platform?
    07-25-2014 08:12 PM
  25. giulianoreali's Avatar
    I see why people who adopt Windows Phone prefer to use Microsoft services. It's better integrated into their systems and it looks neat to use products by the same company that makes your OS.

    But to trash Google and their services is ridiculous. You might prefer outlook, one drive, or whatever, but to say that Gmail is bad, for f*ck's sake. It's a fantastic service, just like most other Google services, which by the way have great integration with the two major OS's. Maybe that's what makes some WP users bitter. There's room for more than one good set of services. For Microsoft to be good, Google doesn't have to suck. You can be a fanboy without being delusional.

    And about privacy concerns, do you seriously think Microsoft is better than Google or Apple? You're really naive if you do.

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    07-25-2014 09:19 PM
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