03-25-2015 05:37 PM
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  1. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    What we significantly forget is that our smartphones are just getting closer to our computers. OS's are getting more complicated and so, more bugs may be seen. No difference what OS you are using, WP, IOS or Android, they all have their own problems and bugs. One has less and one has more. The most important thing is Which one has the best core, the most personalization, most ease of use and surely the least amount of bugs and THE MOST IMPORTANT the problems of which have the least impact in the overall usage and the main factuality.
    Some people may have hated WP but when they traveled to android, they really decided to come back home.
    I think you should give it a chance to be reset and work again. Because you are spending money and getting regret may cost lost of hundreds of dollars.
    Why do you think that Android's Apps are that stable and reliable that WP's aren't ?
    A device you can use to warm your hands in winter just when it's in idle mode ! Yes I believe it has enough heat to warm my hands when I'm not using it casually.
    Just give it a factory reset and if it didn't work, hard reset and if it didn't as well, go for repairs.
    This is where some of you guys have a difficult time understanding real life. We aren't bashing the hardware nor are we bashing the OS. My primary concern is that everything that made Windows Phone unique is either a) gone, or b) available on competing platforms. I love the core OS, but can I honestly justify giving up very useful apps and services for a home screen and keyboard? Because, lets be honest, that's all that remains. I don't mind the bugs, if I did I wouldn't run prerelease software. I mind having to explain that I can't facetime because Windows Phone doesn't support it but iPhones support Skype.
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    03-16-2015 05:48 AM
  2. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    And for the record, I've been with the platform since the day the HD7 was released.
    03-16-2015 05:48 AM
  3. Shayan Davoodi's Avatar
    So, May I know some of features or apps or whatever you are missing in WP? ofc the ones you have in IOS or Android.
    03-16-2015 05:54 AM
  4. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    So, May I know some of features or apps or whatever you are missing in WP? ofc the ones you have in IOS or Android.
    You're joking, right?
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    03-16-2015 06:09 AM
  5. Shayan Davoodi's Avatar
    You're joking, right?
    Not actually.
    03-16-2015 06:22 AM
  6. Michael Dontigney's Avatar
    I mind having to explain that I can't facetime because Windows Phone doesn't support it but iPhones support Skype.
    Besides the fact that I despise the name "facetime"... ack.... you can't run it on Android... So, who would be to blame? The people that made it (and picked the worst name in history for it) or the companies that port their versions to all OS's? I'd blame the company that made it and picked that crappy name.
    03-16-2015 11:23 AM
  7. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    Besides the fact that I despise the name "facetime"... ack.... you can't run it on Android... So, who would be to blame? The people that made it (and picked the worst name in history for it) or the companies that port their versions to all OS's? I'd blame the company that made it and picked that crappy name.
    The service isn't the point. The point is we can go to one of these platforms, have their services and apps, and have everything we love because Microsoft is developing for those platforms.

    You don't need to go far for the app issues, as of today, I can't access my bank. The largest bank in America, at that.
    03-17-2015 12:55 AM
  8. threewulfmoon's Avatar
    I got my used but pristine Lumia 1520 in late November 2014, and it's been by daily driver since. I love the hardware of the 1520--the bright, crisp screen and the camera simply rocks. However, I still have minor sensitivity issues and every so often, my phone will simply reboot. Not that often, but it happens occasionally. There's enough good to want to stick it out, enough bad to make me yearn for something different every once in a while.

    WP is a decent operating system. WP is much better than the Android experience that I've had, and is every bit as stable and usable as iOS. The Bad: IE sucks, plain and simple. It is way behind Safari on iOS. Hopefully, W10 will help fix this issue with the upcoming Spartan browser. The WP Facebook app sucks too--even the new and improved "Beta" version. I manage a Facebook page for my agency and I use it to communicate timely information to the public (i.e. an accident occurred on X road and you may want to avoid the area). The Facebook implementation for pages was virtually non-existent on the WP Facebook app, so I had to buy a third party page manager and take a chance sharing my information with a 3rd party. And the Pages Manager app still kind of sucks because you'll try to post an update with pictures and it will take an excessively long amount of time or it will say "Cannot connect to Facebook." These were tasks that I handled easily on my iPhone 5c.

    The Good: I don't notice the app gap that much, but it is still there, and really not improving much. Again, W10 may help, but I pray that the apps are better than the W8.1 versions, which even though are designed to run on a full computer, are often less polished than the iOS or Android versions running on a mobile OS. However, I want to give Microsoft props for focusing on their services and software. I love OneNote! I can type a note on my phone and it get synced to my tablet and work PC. It is flawless and it makes my life much easier! I also love how my 1520 integrates with my Band! I reply to text messages through my Band all of the time and that tiny keyboard is surprisingly accurate!

    I am satisfied enough with Windows Phone and my Lumia 1520 that I'm going to stick it out despite the issues. In fact, I'm saving a little bit here and there so if I want, I can purchase a new phone late this year or early next. A Surface Phone with W10 and stylus support is just the device I want. Something like a mini-tablet that serves as a digital notepad with tight OneNote integration. Take my money please!
    03-19-2015 07:53 AM
  9. Joaquim Reis's Avatar
    its most likely because your flexing the phone, when you flex it, you mis align the digitzer, there is a detailed thread on how to fix it. just get a decent case to give it a bit more stability and don't lift things a lot with it in your pocket, and don't put it in your back pocket at all, 1520 is a thing *** phone, its hard to make something so big and thing sturdy.

    Nah thats not true at all. A lot of people are having this problem since the first moment they took their phones from the box. So that flex thing is not the real problem with it. Mine has that problem too, but i dont think that its that annoying as i just ser it once in a day or so, BUT its there surely.
    03-19-2015 08:06 AM
  10. Quhi's Avatar
    I bought mine last November and it doesn't have issues unless I turn on double tap to wake but that may be because of the screen protector. I assume that mostly the first batches are flawed.
    03-19-2015 08:20 AM
  11. Asskickulater's Avatar
    Nah thats not true at all. A lot of people are having this problem since the first moment they took their phones from the box. So that flex thing is not the real problem with it. Mine has that problem too, but i dont think that its that annoying as i just ser it once in a day or so, BUT its there surely.
    perhaps those were defective models then. I've had a couple friends who got the 1520 after me and a month later were phantom touching, followed the guide on the forums and fixed them, they grabbed a decent case and have been more careful with them and hasn't happened to them since.
    03-19-2015 01:41 PM
  12. Emmanuelle Calvier's Avatar
    03-20-2015 03:37 AM
  13. Shayan Davoodi's Avatar
    I think we should give WP developers time. Now there is a good reason for developing more useful apps and the reason is WP10 with its great features. I'm sure that many developers will be attracted by WP10 features and if it happens, the gap of applications will become less and less. I still believe that this GAP is negligible and is fading timely.
    If you have checked news from winHEC 2015 you will agree with me.
    03-20-2015 06:00 AM
  14. MK Shatnawi's Avatar
    AT-op Recently came from android too, been an android user for several years and mostly got Samsung Flagships.
    I used the following smartphones - symbian ( 6600, 6630, n82 ) - maemo N900 then jumped to android SII, Note II , Note III.
    I can tell you the OS is fluid as it gets, without flashing custom roms, launchers and loosing your warranty ( samsung knox ).

    I'll agree with you that the keyboard is not the best possible and the lack of alternative keyboards/launchers is annoying,
    but that was something i was aware of before i got my Lumia.
    They keyboard could be a lot better for me if they just added number support with long pressing the top row!! ( very simple, can't understand why not implemented yet ).

    IE could be a lot better, always used firefox in my droid. However have high hopes for the new browser in WP10.

    Although the market does not have the large number of apps, available in iOS and droid, most of not all the useful apps are there.
    The only app i used in droid and its not available in WP is K9-mail client, however the integrated mail client is almost as good.
    That said, if you scroll the droid apps, you will find that more than half are a piece of **it, why would i ever use 100+ flash light apps ? 100+ fart apps, screen crack apps, make weird noises apps etc ?
    You may also miss some games, but im not "phone gamer" thats why i have my pc, casual games for when on bus/train etc are available, although i really miss quizup.

    Other pros i can think of are :
    -build quality
    -UI
    -camera, although i use my dslr when traveling having the lumia camera for quick snaps is a joy.
    -don't have to reboot the phone every ~1 day, so i doesn't lag.
    -have had my L1520 for ~2months, had no random restarts.
    -I don't have to install 3rd party hardware to limit mobile traffic and back round activity of apps. Can be done through the integrated apps/os settings.
    -WP support for old devices is priceless, updates go out a lot faster and don't depend on the phone manufacturer to release the OS update for my 1 year old flagship, which they intentionally delay so they can sell the new models.


    I don't think nokia should go android, since they ditched maemo-meego (which were the best mobile OS i've ever used ) they should stick with it.
    The market apps will only get better/more support as the user-base increases. A thing MS is trying to achieve by having there apps released in other OSes.
    03-20-2015 07:14 AM
  15. Shayan Davoodi's Avatar
    That said, if you scroll the droid apps, you will find that more than half are a piece of **it, why would i ever use 100+ flash light apps ? 100+ fart apps, screen crack apps, make weird noises apps etc ?
    03-20-2015 08:58 AM
  16. Michael Dontigney's Avatar
    The service isn't the point. The point is we can go to one of these platforms, have their services and apps, and have everything we love because Microsoft is developing for those platforms.

    You don't need to go far for the app issues, as of today, I can't access my bank. The largest bank in America, at that.
    Oh.. Yeah, you can go to the others and get all the Microsoft apps while some of their apps aren't available for Microsoft devices... That is true.. As for the banking app... 1St.. you left off "****ty" when describing your bank... 2nd, I use a small credit union (no fees for nearly anything) and they don't even have an app for ANY smart phone, but you know what is nice about Windows phones? I can pin their login page to my start screen, one click and I'm at the login and ready to do my online banking. Just like an app, but better because I can usually do more than with an app.
    That said, you are right that there is a lack of apps on WP.. this is very true.. but I have yet to encounter an app that I would consider a show stopper not being available which would cause me to go back to Android. I wouldn't use an Apple product if you PAID me. Period.
    03-20-2015 09:49 AM
  17. Hokenweazen's Avatar
    Hey I use at least 10 fart apps. I have to be prepared for any farting occasion.
    03-20-2015 02:09 PM
  18. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    I would consider my bank a deal breaker regardless of your personal feelings towards it. I would consider lack luster first party apps such as Skype deal breakers. I would consider 15 months between updates for most major apps a deal breaker. I'm going to give this iPhone a shot. UI is absolutely terrible, but for now I can rely on being up to date.


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    03-20-2015 08:04 PM
  19. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    I will say this, you can tell Apple has no horse in the search race, search is terrible on this thing


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    03-20-2015 08:44 PM
  20. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    A lot of you may not want to hear this, but after a couple of days with this iPhone I have to say that the app gap is real.. Terrifyingly real. You may say "we have received the top apps" and it may be true. But the QUALITY of those apps and their abilities isn't even close. It really scares me because I was not aware of it being this bad.


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    03-24-2015 10:27 PM
  21. zkyevolved's Avatar
    A lot of you may not want to hear this, but after a couple of days with this iPhone I have to say that the app gap is real.. Terrifyingly real. You may say "we have received the top apps" and it may be true. But the QUALITY of those apps and their abilities isn't even close. It really scares me because I was not aware of it being this bad.


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    Wait, there are people that actually say that there isn't a big app gap? Of course there is! a HUGE one! 200,000 vs 1,000,000+? That's less than 20%. And everyone knows that the apps that are on WP are updates behind. It's a shame... But I really love the OS and how fluid it is... It's a shame it isn't picked up by developers... :( But MS is a HUGE company! They COULD do more, a lot more, to persuade more developers, more manufacturers... Hopefully WP 10 will bring enough updates to persuade more developers. I can only hope... I'm waiting for my Note 4 to arrive right now... hmmmphhh
    03-25-2015 04:54 AM
  22. Paul1266's Avatar
    How many apps fo you use? I use about 40 in total...on my iPad Air, HTC One M8 (android) and my various Lumia Devices. I use WP purely so i can experience the utter hell that Apple/android users had to live through when they had access to less than a quarter of a million apps (that's sarcasm right there). Yes, some are of lesser quality than their counterparts but ALL the apps I use are just fine and comparable. I must be lucky I guess. This is a bit like the camera debate...a couple of years ago an 8MP shooter was just fine...now it is beyond unusable apparently. Lets keep some perspective and sanity please.

    Choice is a wonderful thing but how many of those 1 million apps are utter and complete dross? Just asking...
    03-25-2015 05:09 AM
  23. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    How many apps fo you use? I use about 40 in total...on my iPad Air, HTC One M8 (android) and my various Lumia Devices. I use WP purely so i can experience the utter hell that Apple/android users had to live through when they had access to less than a quarter of a million apps (that's sarcasm right there). Yes, some are of lesser quality than their counterparts but ALL the apps I use are just fine and comparable. I must be lucky I guess. This is a bit like the camera debate...a couple of years ago an 8MP shooter was just fine...now it is beyond unusable apparently. Lets keep some perspective and sanity please.

    Choice is a wonderful thing but how many of those 1 million apps are utter and complete dross? Just asking...
    I use several, but it's not about the quantity. I had no idea how great tapatalk is on other platforms. Or the Twitter app. Or kindle. Or Amazon. Or eBay. Or even games like Spider-Man unlimited. Our apps are so neglected it's painful to see the truth.


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    03-25-2015 05:43 AM
  24. Paul1266's Avatar
    I use several, but it's not about the quantity. I had no idea how great tapatalk is on other platforms. Or the Twitter app. Or kindle. Or Amazon. Or eBay. Or even games like Spider-Man unlimited. Our apps are so neglected it's painful to see the truth.


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    And yet that can only be part of the story. As mentioned, I have an HTC M8 which is a gorgeous device from a hardware point of view but more often than not it just sits in my drawer because the android interface just doesn't do it for me. What it comes down to I guess is that if you use you device as a kind of miny tablet then you are not going to be happy with the app gap I guess. I have an iPad which meets those needs. I use my phone as primarily a communication device, camera and news reader/browser/navigator. Its not deficient in any of those areas and the UI in my opinion just takes a leak over android and iOS from a great height. Fully acknowledge these are all subjective. iOS just plain bores me. So locked down as it is.
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    03-25-2015 05:52 AM
  25. Alex Rodriguez Jr.'s Avatar
    And yet that can only be part of the story. As mentioned, I have an HTC M8 which is a gorgeous device from a hardware point of view but more often than not it just sits in my drawer because the android interface just doesn't do it for me. What it comes down to I guess is that if you use you device as a kind of miny tablet then you are not going to be happy with the app gap I guess. I have an iPad which meets those needs. I use my phone as primarily a communication device, camera and news reader/browser/navigator. Its not deficient in any of those areas and the UI in my opinion just takes a leak over android and iOS from a great height. Fully acknowledge these are all subjective. iOS just plain bores me. So locked down as it is.
    I agree that Windows Phone as a platform is superior. But it's really embarrassing that as a superior platform we can even use Skype fluidly on Microsoft own device.


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    03-25-2015 05:56 AM
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