05-08-2014 10:12 AM
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  1. prakashe's Avatar
    Hi Guys,
    I have been a WP fan boy for long. But things like these make me sad.
    I can handle ****ty music players but this is whole new level of low for WP.
    Xbox music crashes and refuses to open.

    http://1drv.ms/1g5FyU8
    05-06-2014 11:27 AM
  2. borasar's Avatar
    Hi Guys,
    I have been a WP fan boy for long. But things like these make me sad.
    I can handle ****ty music players but this is whole new level of low for WP.
    Xbox music crashes and refuses to open.

    http://1drv.ms/1g5FyU8
    it's a preview and xbox music on it is a beta, you knew what you were signing up for.

    There is an app in the store that allows you to get the old music player opened in 8.1, it's more stable. Get that while the devs get the 8.1 version up to scratch
    05-06-2014 11:30 AM
  3. Brandon McLean's Avatar
    Also you could use Nokia MixRadio as a substitute, as I have been doing. The "old music player" app is an option too, however tapping on the playing song in the drop-down control menu when playing music from it opens the new (beta) Xbox music, which is inconvenient.
    05-07-2014 05:51 AM
  4. Pawlee's Avatar
    On 8.1 I was using Nokia MixRadio… and now that I've rolled back to 8.0 (battery problems) I'm actually still using MixRadio.
    05-07-2014 05:53 AM
  5. ShreyansShah's Avatar
    On 8.1 I was using Nokia MixRadio… and now that I've rolled back to 8.0 (battery problems) I'm actually still using MixRadio.
    is it possible to roll-back?
    anyway, cannot think of roll-back at all.
    luckily, i use 720, with excellent battery backup. even though a small amount of battery back up is reduced, still happy with in a better situation.
    05-07-2014 06:01 AM
  6. Pawlee's Avatar
    is it possible to roll-back?
    anyway, cannot think of roll-back at all.
    luckily, i use 720, with excellent battery backup. even though a small amount of battery back up is reduced, still happy with in a better situation.
    Yeah on a PC there's a Nokia Software Updater and another one that I can't remember what it was called. From what I could see they both did the same kinda thing, but the Software updater didn't work whereas the other one did. Restored 8.0 fine. It's a bit of a pain but I'd rather wait till the official release, I've had my fill of 8.1 and it's great, but 8.0 was never a problem for me (I don't need a notification center that badly etc)
    Romer Reyes likes this.
    05-07-2014 06:16 AM
  7. Ray Adams's Avatar
    Try this one Folder Play | Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States)

    Simple player to play file by file in folders.
    omarahum likes this.
    05-07-2014 06:30 AM
  8. AR2186's Avatar
    You can also re-enable the old Music+Videos app, its still there just hidden. Download it from the app store, its called "Music Hub Tile"
    05-07-2014 07:24 AM
  9. anon5997296's Avatar
    Can we enable the same way, old video player?? New app is frustrating
    05-07-2014 07:39 AM
  10. pankaj981's Avatar
    Yeah Nokia music player works better than the default music player for me, on top of also looks kinda cool
    Bernard Ofori likes this.
    05-07-2014 07:40 AM
  11. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Here's another vote for Nokia Mix Radio... it's the only music player I use on WP.
    metalchick719 likes this.
    05-07-2014 07:48 AM
  12. prakashe's Avatar
    Yeah I am using mix radio. Its just that u wouldn't expect your default music player to do this.

    I know it is in beta. But doesn't beta mean that it has only minor defects and not glaring ones?
    Kevin Rush likes this.
    05-07-2014 08:13 AM
  13. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Yeah I am using mix radio. Its just that u wouldn't expect your default music player to do this.

    I know it is in beta. But doesn't beta mean that it has only minor defects and not glaring ones?
    Have to tried rebooting your phone?
    jmshub likes this.
    05-07-2014 08:21 AM
  14. Will6371's Avatar
    Am I missing something? I have never used Xbox music, do you only get the benefit of Xbox music if you have an Xbox? I don't have an Xbox but I find the Nokia radio mix to be great.
    05-07-2014 01:47 PM
  15. AR2186's Avatar
    Can we enable the same way, old video player?? New app is frustrating
    It's the same app
    05-07-2014 01:55 PM
  16. Blacklac's Avatar
    Well, the whole point of the newer one was to remove it from the OS and make it a separate App. So guess what? You can manually reinstall it to try and fix errors...
    05-07-2014 01:59 PM
  17. T Moore's Avatar
    Works fine for me, and I can finally make a playlist using just the phone.
    It's a crap shoot using 8.1 OS and 8.0 firmware. Different for every phone model and carrier.
    05-07-2014 04:44 PM
  18. Bernard Ofori's Avatar
    Yeah Nokia music player works better than the default music player for me, on top of also looks kinda cool
    never thought of it. just tried it and it works perfectly. no more xbox music for me
    Ed Boland likes this.
    05-07-2014 04:48 PM
  19. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Am I missing something? I have never used Xbox music, do you only get the benefit of Xbox music if you have an Xbox? I don't have an Xbox but I find the Nokia radio mix to be great.
    Same here. I've never had an Xbox.. (PC gamer here!) in fact, the last game console I owned was a Super Nintendo if that tells you anything. I have been a gamer though.. on the PC since way back in the DOS days.

    Nope, you're not missing anything. Except for an awkward service that tries to lure you into signing up for an "Xbox Music Pass" for $9.99 a month to be able to stream music (that you already own) to all your devices. I guess if one has an Xbox, it has it's perks though. A lot of Xbox users (360 and One) have purchased tons of music through the Xbox music service over the years, so the service and it's consumer base/ecosystem isn't going anywhere... kinda like iTunes and it's customer base; People have a bunch of money and time invested in their iTunes music collections. It makes sense that the Xbox music users want these apps, and want it to be an integrated part of Windows Phone (if only they could work out the kinks I hear), but that doesn't mean WE have to use it. There's always been other methods of obtaining music...

    Some of us Windows Phone 8(8.1) users have huge collections of music that we'd like to listen to every now and then... Without getting involved in all that Xbox Music business.... thank god for Nokia Mix Radio!

    Nokia Mix Radio (formerly Nokia Music) on the other hand is awesome! With NMR, you can play all your local music (mp3 files on your phone) and you can also create artist "mixes". By entering up to three artists, NMR will play music from your favorites and similar artists (think Pandora or iHeart radio) or for even more diverse mixes, you can have it do a "computer scan" on your PC, and let it find all your music files/folders and it'll generate mixes (which are downloadable for offline play) based on your entire collection. :D

    The only thing I've been worried about really, is the Microsoft/Nokia acquisition, and what happens to Nokia Mix Radio. I really hope we get to keep it... Because with Microsoft and their pushing Xbox music, NMR's days may be numbered... :(

    Oh and sorry for the long post (I'm highly caffeinated!) and I don't mean to hijack the op's thread... Just seemed relevant to me.

    Long live NMR!!!
    Will6371 likes this.
    05-07-2014 06:14 PM
  20. MyNL822's Avatar
    Same here. I've never had an Xbox.. (PC gamer here!) in fact, the last game console I owned was a Super Nintendo if that tells you anything. I have been a gamer though.. on the PC since way back in the DOS days.

    Nope, you're not missing anything. Except for an awkward service that tries to lure you into signing up for an "Xbox Music Pass" for $9.99 a month to be able to stream music (that you already own) to all your devices. I guess if one has an Xbox, it has it's perks though. A lot of Xbox users (360 and One) have purchased tons of music through the Xbox music service over the years, so the service and it's consumer base/ecosystem isn't going anywhere... kinda like iTunes and it's customer base; People have a bunch of money and time invested in their iTunes music collections. It makes sense that the Xbox music users want these apps, and want it to be an integrated part of Windows Phone (if only they could work out the kinks I hear), but that doesn't mean WE have to use it. There's always been other methods of obtaining music...

    Some of us Windows Phone 8(8.1) users have huge collections of music that we'd like to listen to every now and then... Without getting involved in all that Xbox Music business.... thank god for Nokia Mix Radio!

    Nokia Mix Radio (formerly Nokia Music) on the other hand is awesome! With NMR, you can play all your local music (mp3 files on your phone) and you can also create artist "mixes". By entering up to three artists, NMR will play music from your favorites and similar artists (think Pandora or iHeart radio) or for even more diverse mixes, you can have it do a "computer scan" on your PC, and let it find all your music files/folders and it'll generate mixes (which are downloadable for offline play) based on your entire collection. :D

    The only thing I've been worried about really, is the Microsoft/Nokia acquisition, and what happens to Nokia Mix Radio. I really hope we get to keep it... Because with Microsoft and their pushing Xbox music, NMR's days may be numbered... :(

    Oh and sorry for the long post (I'm highly caffeinated!) and I don't mean to hijack the op's thread... Just seemed relevant to me.

    Long live NMR!!!
    No this is wrong you can stream songs from your pc, that you OWN for free, but you can pay the $10 a month to stream any song and also download to your collection to listen w/o streaming and play artist radios and stuff, but idk why they don't just make it free like xbox music on the laptop and tablets. Edit: Forgot to say, in the radio playlists you make, if you choose artist radio it will play songs ONLY by that artist(that is a pretty good feature) and the other radio plays songs similar to what you like.
    05-07-2014 07:04 PM
  21. Ed Boland's Avatar
    No this is wrong you can stream songs from your pc, that you OWN for free, but you can pay the $10 a month to stream any song and also download to your collection to listen w/o streaming and play artist radios and stuff, but idk why they don't just make it free like xbox music on the laptop and tablets. Edit: Forgot to say, in the radio playlists you make, if you choose artist radio it will play songs ONLY by that artist(that is a pretty good feature) and the other radio plays songs similar to what you like.
    I've tried numerous times, but only end up getting a sample (15-20 seconds) of each song, IF the songs actually show up. Most of the time it doesn't work at all and it can't find my shared music anyway. Your post seems to go back and forth, and doesn't make any sense.. much like Xbox Music lol
    05-07-2014 09:37 PM
  22. tapehead's Avatar
    I've had just about every single problem with Xbox Music you could think of on both Win 8 and Win 8.1 including:

    Duplicate songs with Windows Explorer.
    Duplicate songs with Mac sync.
    Duplicate songs from downloading from Xbox Music Store.
    Xbox Music changing metadata to incorrect information.
    The app not opening.
    The app crashing upon loading my local collection.
    The app not being able to search for music based on the artist in my collection (error message).
    Artists not showing up in actual alphabetical order.
    The app can't read ID3.4 tags, so longer titles get cut off and Asian characters won't read properly (all tags must be converted to ID3.3).
    Right now, I can't get the phone to connect to Windows Phone transfer, meaning I can't put new music on my phone.

    I'm literally counting down the days until I can afford to get something else, because I don't understand how Microsoft (even for a DP) could make sure the phone, texting, customization, all settings for location and wifi, email syncing and video playback aaaallllll function. But not the music player. It's embarrassing for them. They knew people were putting a lot of stock into the preview, and not just us. 8.1 has already been reviewed by a lot of high profile tech sites. I honestly don't know what they were thinking.

    BTW, most of the above issues all happened with 8.0.
    05-08-2014 03:04 AM
  23. rex.reyesiii's Avatar
    hopefully music player is top notch already by.... October this year LOL.
    05-08-2014 06:39 AM
  24. borasar's Avatar
    Same here. I've never had an Xbox.. (PC gamer here!) in fact, the last game console I owned was a Super Nintendo if that tells you anything. I have been a gamer though.. on the PC since way back in the DOS days.

    Nope, you're not missing anything. Except for an awkward service that tries to lure you into signing up for an "Xbox Music Pass" for $9.99 a month to be able to stream music (that you already own) to all your devices. I guess if one has an Xbox, it has it's perks though. A lot of Xbox users (360 and One) have purchased tons of music through the Xbox music service over the years, so the service and it's consumer base/ecosystem isn't going anywhere... kinda like iTunes and it's customer base; People have a bunch of money and time invested in their iTunes music collections. It makes sense that the Xbox music users want these apps, and want it to be an integrated part of Windows Phone (if only they could work out the kinks I hear), but that doesn't mean WE have to use it. There's always been other methods of obtaining music...

    Some of us Windows Phone 8(8.1) users have huge collections of music that we'd like to listen to every now and then... Without getting involved in all that Xbox Music business.... thank god for Nokia Mix Radio!

    Nokia Mix Radio (formerly Nokia Music) on the other hand is awesome! With NMR, you can play all your local music (mp3 files on your phone) and you can also create artist "mixes". By entering up to three artists, NMR will play music from your favorites and similar artists (think Pandora or iHeart radio) or for even more diverse mixes, you can have it do a "computer scan" on your PC, and let it find all your music files/folders and it'll generate mixes (which are downloadable for offline play) based on your entire collection. :D

    The only thing I've been worried about really, is the Microsoft/Nokia acquisition, and what happens to Nokia Mix Radio. I really hope we get to keep it... Because with Microsoft and their pushing Xbox music, NMR's days may be numbered... :(

    Oh and sorry for the long post (I'm highly caffeinated!) and I don't mean to hijack the op's thread... Just seemed relevant to me.

    Long live NMR!!!
    I have zero issues streaming songs with Xbox music or downloading to the collection and no issues with my own music either (that wasn't provided by xbox music service). I've started with a free 1 month trial and continued to a monthly subscription, no issue with either one.

    Did you actually sign up for a free one month trial?
    05-08-2014 09:54 AM
  25. borasar's Avatar
    I've tried numerous times, but only end up getting a sample (15-20 seconds) of each song, IF the songs actually show up. Most of the time it doesn't work at all and it can't find my shared music anyway. Your post seems to go back and forth, and doesn't make any sense.. much like Xbox Music lol
    Not sure what's not clear with what he said. He's described the features fairly well I think.
    The song playing for 15-20 seconds is a free preview, you should be able to stream the full song or download to your phone if you're under the trial or a paying subscriber
    05-08-2014 09:58 AM
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