8.1 Developer Preview Everything Music Thread

[tcedwards]

Following 8.1 install and a clear out of all music from SD card, followed by placing 3 albums on it I have issues. Whilst I can see the 3 new albums and play them, I also have listed some of the removed albums (not sure if all or not). In trying to play them it will just crap out to main screen, on shuffle it will end on one of the 3 albums which do exist and start to play.

Looked at the SD and the card defo only has the 3 albums. Issue however is on the phone storage side under music I can see these album files (they seem to be files and not folders). Issue is can't remove them as protected and can't change protection. Also phone storage reports 0kb on music.

Very annoying, any solution bar hard resetting etc.

Thanks.

Well I reset my phone (Icon) before I added my music to wp8.1 also. This did not happen to me, id say reset again.
Also when I really jumped into Xbox Music, I deleted everything out of my cloud collection on the W8 app, and downloaded everything I wanted from the XBM store. I then added my own songs not in the store, (fill in song name, artists, and ALBUM, otherwise it will not sync right to your WP from W8), and finally made playlists.

 

[tcedwards]

There is a lot of stuff wrong with XBM, but I would like to point out something I find awesome, Playlist sync. I have XBM on my Icon, 2520, and x51 desktop. I hear a song I like on the radio in my car, find it with cortana, add to collection and my playlist "New", and bam when I get home the song is on my 2520 and x51 already downloaded and in the correct playlist. Now if they could only make a true syncing app for songs not in the XBM store and it would solve a lot of BS problems people are having which causes this nice feature to be overlooked.

 

[anon(8657436)]

No, I'm not a developer. But I think the issue here is some sort of issue with overall project management and not the developers. I mean, if Rudy Huyn power through an app in one week, go through a beta testing, fix all the bugs, and then drop it publicly to critical and commercial acclaim, I don't think the biggest computer company in the world should be lagging. I get that it's a store and a player, but come on. Given how many other competent music players exist in the Marketplace right now, I see no reason why Microsoft should be dropping the ball. This doesn't seem to be an issue for Apple or Google.

I've reset the phone a billion times. And I really should not have to hard reset the phone just for an app update. That kind of defeats the purpose of an update. I already hard reset it after I installed Windows Phone 8.1, so if I did it again... I would just have to update it again, and wouldn't I be stuck in the same boat? I'm running 8.0 on my daily driver. I'm following 8.1's development on my 520 to see if I'm going to switch to the iPhone upon 8.1's release or not. As much as I love Windows Phone 8, I'd rather use Windows Phone 7 pre-Mango than 8.1 in its current condition.

The main thing lies in the fact that Mobile is a relatively new thing at microsoft and they haven't focused enough resources there. They had to develop Cortana, develop the new features in WP8.1, test them and roll them out to the desperate users out here only within a span of 4 to 5 months at max.
I develop apps for windows for my personal use and believe me, if you have to develop a complete set of applications, you NEED to have a VERY LARGE team. Case in point, I designed a OS skin (it runs as an executable but provides a different visual experience than the windows 7 one) and to just create the skin it took me about a week to develop the skin alone. And to add a working windows explorer, it took me a week. Creating custom music players, video players, keyboard UI will each take up about min. of a week and that too only because most of the controls are prewritten in Visual .NET and Visual C#.

 

[Judas20]

Some album arts are missing in Xbox Music but they show in Nokia Mixradio. Btw has anyone else noticed that Xbox music replaces all your album arts?

 

[anon(8657436)]

I have this problem recently of not being able to lower headphone volume *sometimes* (random, but more noticeable with MixRadio) when the screen is locked. ANYONE FACING THE SAME PROBLEM???? I did restart my phone twice but am not keen on a reset.

 

[anon(8657436)]

Some album arts are missing in Xbox Music but they show in Nokia Mixradio. Btw has anyone else noticed that Xbox music replaces all your album arts?

XBM is famous for replacing album art and media info.

 

[Tezler]

Well I reset my phone (Icon) before I added my music to wp8.1 also. This did not happen to me, id say reset again.
Also when I really jumped into Xbox Music, I deleted everything out of my cloud collection on the W8 app, and downloaded everything I wanted from the XBM store. I then added my own songs not in the store, (fill in song name, artists, and ALBUM, otherwise it will not sync right to your WP from W8), and finally made playlists.

Went for a hard reset... sometime later still restoring settings, apps, data etc.. Phone was seen as a different phone so the APPS on the SD would not work meant I had to install them all again. Shame but least the store now makes that somewhat easier with a quick select list for previously downloaded apps (shame I can't maintain this list mind and clear some apps I know are rubbish and will never ever touch etc.. as it forever grows and will become unwieldy, already at 350).

Good news though.. now no stupid files

 

[Tezler]

One of my pet hates when listing to music is how annoying it is to change a track etc. i.e. from main screen or lock you have to use volume and then VERY SPEEDILY click the next track button. The speed that volume control (inc. music controls) disappears is a joke. Is there anything I'm missing here in respect of having better control of the music in hand, whilst running, or in the car.
....I think some form of lock-screen support might be good and also an always on option somehow (car, and disclaimer not used driver mode in case that does it in the car!).

Am I alone?

 

[anon(8657436)]

One of my pet hates when listing to music is how annoying it is to change a track etc. i.e. from main screen or lock you have to use volume and then VERY SPEEDILY click the next track button. The speed that volume control (inc. music controls) disappears is a joke. Is there anything I'm missing here in respect of having better control of the music in hand, whilst running, or in the car.
....I think some form of lock-screen support might be good and also an always on option somehow (car, and disclaimer not used driver mode in case that does it in the car!).

Am I alone?

You're not alone. It should have a custom setting or at least show longer when on the lockscreen.

 

[L Kapoor]

Xbox Music - New bug after last week's update

I updated the Xbox Music five days ago. It is faster than before updating but there's a new bug. I created a new playlist yesterday. The playlist had 68 songs at that time. This morning it was down to 29 and now there are no songs in that playlist. Anyone else who has this bug?

 

[dawindbag]

One of my pet hates when listing to music is how annoying it is to change a track etc. i.e. from main screen or lock you have to use volume and then VERY SPEEDILY click the next track button. The speed that volume control (inc. music controls) disappears is a joke. Is there anything I'm missing here in respect of having better control of the music in hand, whilst running, or in the car.
....I think some form of lock-screen support might be good and also an always on option somehow (car, and disclaimer not used driver mode in case that does it in the car!).

Am I alone?

Nope. The original WP7 had the music controls and track information embedded into the lock screen. When you woke up the phone that info was right there. Now in WP8 you have to wake the phone, then hit volume up, then quickly hit the track skip button. I felt like this was always a huge step backwards.

I miss being able to wake my phone and adjust my music right in the lock screen. I'm sure they had to remove this to allow 3rd party apps to update the lock screen, but it's a worse experience than it was. Wish they'd find a way to go back to that.

 

[tapehead]

Nope. The original WP7 had the music controls and track information embedded into the lock screen. When you woke up the phone that info was right there. Now in WP8 you have to wake the phone, then hit volume up, then quickly hit the track skip button. I felt like this was always a huge step backwards.

I miss being able to wake my phone and adjust my music right in the lock screen. I'm sure they had to remove this to allow 3rd party apps to update the lock screen, but it's a worse experience than it was. Wish they'd find a way to go back to that.

I actually don't have this issue? Does your volume control not automatically drop down upon unlocking? What I DO hate is that ugly black box background. It should be a grey, transparent box.

 

[pvcleave]

Nope. The original WP7 had the music controls and track information embedded into the lock screen. When you woke up the phone that info was right there. Now in WP8 you have to wake the phone, then hit volume up, then quickly hit the track skip button. I felt like this was always a huge step backwards.

I miss being able to wake my phone and adjust my music right in the lock screen. I'm sure they had to remove this to allow 3rd party apps to update the lock screen, but it's a worse experience than it was. Wish they'd find a way to go back to that.

IIRC I believe many people at the time did not like that the music controls stayed onscreen when one unlocked the phone. So MS made it disappear of s short wait. I preferred it to be there, but really don't have a huge preference. This is the problem with not have a clear vision and trying to satisfy every small group that complains, in the end nobody will be happy.

 

[Stephen Pedersen]

By the time 8.1 is polished, I'm sure the music experience will be enhanced greatly. Their biweekly updates is great news. Albeit, late news. Will it ever be able to compete with iTunes though? I think not. iTunes pwns. Its good for beginners and power users. It may not be the best visual experience, but I would rather have many options than a polished ****.

 

[mike13ftw]

I want flac support to enjoy my ath m50x monitoring headphones. Do I want a lot ?

 

[ORG_9711]

My music app just won't open. Always stuck on the headphones or "loading...". Any ideas on how to fix? Tried off/on again, tries soft reset, tried the app to take back to old music player (doesn't work either), tried unpinning and repinning, tried accessing from slide down after pressing volume buttons.

 

[Maxwell Fong]

I have noticed!! Don't know if you guys know this, but there's a single called "Spending all my time" by Perfume. I synced the single into my phone with the album art still there, but the phone automatically changed my album artwork to "Spending all my time" by Aaron Fresh. This is really freaking me out. I've tried every method to ensure that the album artwork sticks there.

 

[Rhody#WP]

IIRC I believe many people at the time did not like that the music controls stayed onscreen when one unlocked the phone. So MS made it disappear of s short wait. I preferred it to be there, but really don't have a huge preference. This is the problem with not have a clear vision and trying to satisfy every small group that complains, in the end nobody will be happy.

This is one of those examples of making the choice for us rather than giving us an option. MS has a way of taking functionality away because a minority doesn't want it. So they will keep going backwards until the device is a feature phone.

 

[Clint Finch]

how do i un-nerf lical music on 8.1?

After the update to 8.1, I could still see my local playlists synced over via musicbee but, since Xbox music was so bad, I put the tile for the original music program back on. Its been all down hill since then. I started seeing some of my sings marked as streaming even though they were stored locally. I had been using Xbox music to manage music on my tablet, which is just a copy of my library on my desktop. I sync the phone with my win 7 desktop. I turned off music management on my tablet, hoping that would get rid of my duplicate tracks but no such luck. I blew everything away on my phone and resented using wmp but now my playlists no longer show up in any music player I install on the phone. And, even though every track I have is local, I still run into tracks the phone thinks are streaming, and it wild play a 30 sec snippet of the track. Extremely frustrating that this experience is so unbelievably FUBAR'd.
Any insight on how to fix is greatly appreciated.

 

[fiveaces01]

hasn't it been 2 weeks?since the last update? Thought we were getting bi-weekly updates for xbox music app. But I don't hear anyone else talking about it.