Best phone ever? seriously?

I hear you. But it's the Desktop version of windows that will draw developers. And as I said they will make the mobile version. They are doing it now! A lot of apps are even supporting continuum. So I'm not just being optimistic, I'm seeing it happen. And I'm seeing it happen when Mobile shares are lower than ever. Which means developers are taking their chances. They could just publish for the desktop and they could leave continuum out. But honestly, continuum is the biggest thing to happen to phones. Whether others have tried it or not. This is not ubuntu, it's windows and has way more appeal. And the tools being provided are also part of the appeal. But ultimately mobile devices have come to a point where you can do a lot of work on them. Desktops are typically used for gaming or more productive work. There's less reason to buy a full desktop for a lot of people. But people will always be buying phones and if they can replace their desktop and phone with a good 2-in-1, then why not? And what's going to make that happen are the apps. These phones have not flooded the market yet. The current ones out sort of show what can be done. And everyone agrees that this is a really cool feature with a lot of "Potential". Even reviewers who really bad mouthed the new lumia phones all agreed continuum is the coolest feature and can become a big thing.

MS has been focusing on Desktop and Visual studio for a reason. If you gain enough users on Desktop and then you make tools easy to use. Developers will come.

You're more likely to buy an app if you can run it on xbox, your phone and windows 10 machine. Or if you can run the app in your phone and then connect your phone and run it in desktop mode. I sure as heck am more likely to buy an app in this sort of scenario. I already buy apps/games on my lumia 950xl. This will just make purchases more likely for me.

This is much different than the macbook pro. It's always been sort of niche in the desktop/laptop market. My guess is Apple will eventually merge their OS like MS. Even google is working on it. Heck Android N already has code in it for desktop like windows. A real platform is device agnostic. What Apple has is a phone platform, and that's it.

Anyways I don't think that I'm "hoping". I think this is the future. Even before this sort of thing happened, years back I used to tell my buddy how one day you will likely have only 1 device that does everything. And MS is actually going that route. And for gaming. You could create a gaming dock for a phone. Much cheaper than buying a full brand new PC. Those users who aren't super techie to be able to build a great gaming PC are more likely to buy an easy to use extension. Again, we will see where things go. But the current state of phones has really reached its limits. Some of the things that are used to battle for share are new screens, better cameras, etc. But really most cameras are good enough for people. Take the recent WP article with the camera show down. All 4 phones performed really well. S7 was probably the best in a lot of scenarios followed by the lumia 950. But if you take those pics and post them on instagram or show them to your friends. They will enjoy them either way, regardless of whether they can see detail way off in the distance. So what's next? Probably screen tech using POLED with flexible designs. Chips are getting more powerful but is anything really taking advantage of it? Continuum could take advantage of it. Otherwise you play a game on a snapdragon 810 vs. an 820, I don't think you will even notice the difference. Games adjust to your specs.


All those are good points, PoopyFinger. I hope you're right about Continuum opening Windows Phone/Windows Mobile up to wider acceptance by developers. But if it only turns into a Mac-like niche market, it wouldn't be so bad. Mac users are very dedicated to the platform and used to pay through the nose. This allows Apple to make a lot of money off the few Mac users. If Windows Phone/Windows Mobile can build a similarly dedicated user base, Microsoft's mobile platform would be established.

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Well AutoCad just updated their app the other day, so have you tried it? But again you're right for complex things, there may be other solutions. Like having the cloud do your computing for you through virtualization. Sort of like HP elite phone will have for enterprise customers. But this software was built for the x64 desktop environment. And I'm sure it took a really long time. Putting it on ARM is not an easy endeavor. That's why MS needs to make it easy. We still haven't reached that point yet. But chips are getting faster while consuming less power which makes it a possible reality in the future. I think 2017 is going to see some breakthroughs with process manufacturing. We are really in the beginning stages of the phone as a PC solution. And as an early adopter we can't expect it to run perfect from the time of purchase. But honestly it has improved from the time I purchased it. Nothing was really running continuum except office. Now a bunch of my favourite apps are supporting it. And I'm hoping build will have some nice announcements.

I'm not one of those windows users who has been running the phone since its first iteration. I only decided to try windows because the 520 was so dirt cheap it was either I buy dinner or the phone, hehe. And that's where I really fell in love with the tile interface. But I tried everything else and am always open to moving over to another solution if it fits my needs. I'm not a "******" as they call them. I do what works for me. And we all have different needs. If your needs aren't met you can wait till they are or go where they are met. And I think for the most part people should go where their needs are met. So I don't understand people who complain about Windows phone but keep buying them lol.

That's exactly right, the improvements are still being made. I am not at all attacking Microsoft but making point that a consumer need isn't met (for a small percentage such as myself). I really like the live tiles, enjoy the UI for the most part, and have no issues with the hardware. But my work is demanding and must be exact, errors and layovers are not only unacceptable, but costly to massive degree. At the moment, W10m doesn't meet that requisite (neither does W10 in general. Our IT division opted for Mac:eck:)so I have since returned the 950xl and gone back to my crotch searing laptop (gets bloody hot running CAD). I've no doubts that Microsoft will bring Continuum fully into the fold, as they must, and the phone division simply has to make it (cracks me up these claims that WP is dead). I'm sure I'll be back also as iOS just isn't my cup of tea.
 
Wait, wait, wait. So sad that I have been always waiting for Nokia/Microsoft to fix WP7, WP8, and now W10. It kinda feels like the end of the line.