Design of 950 & 950XL and W10M not good?

[vEEP pEEP]

I'm just going to wait till they come out then decide. Right now - way too much speculation.

Happy with my 930 - not even a year old yet....

I'd rather speculate on Nokia making phones again - and trying Windows 10....

 

[hasasimo]

Past Lumia flagship designs to put things in perspective:

Oh Microsoft...

And this stunning collage doesn't even show the one that started it all and swept smartphone design awards... the Lumia 800 (N9 design). Or the gorgeous Lumia 830. These make the 950/950 XL look like they were designed by some intern that couldn't wait to finish and get home.

 

[mjrtoo]

Thats why i said "almost".

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It's not even almost, it's hilarious.

 

[EnemiesInTheEnd]

The last actual photo I saw still had the "hide how the body looks" casing on it. Can you link me one without it?

At the moment I can't but you can find those images with the case photoshopped off of the phone

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[Simon Hinton]

And this stunning collage doesn't even show the one that started at all and swept smartphone design awards... the Lumia 800 (N9 design). Makes the 950/950 XL look like they were designed by some intern that couldn't wait to finish and get home.

I'm still rocking my Lumia 900, no design comes close to what made Windows Phone appealing to me. I can't put my finger at what's wrong with these models, but they don't look right. Proportions? Position of the camera module? Unused bezel at the bottom? For a premium product, I don't get why on-screen keys are even there. They're cramped and look like an afterthought compared to the placement of the hardware buttons on my own phone, that use as much of the space as possible.

Not bashing the designers - but I think the City and Talk have lost a lot of the crafted elegance that the old Nokia team used to imbue in their products. Even the outsourcing MS did for their Zune HD was spot on and didn't pull any punches for the sake of playing it safe with design (what I think MS is doing). It was a flop because of bad marketing and being late to the game, but I still consider it one of the nicest pieces of hardware I've ever owned. Taking design cues from that would be flagship material, IMHO.

 

[lupinesithlord]

I like the design allright, its ok (dont like the metal camera ring.) In all honesty I'm not thrilled about on screen keys, I'd prefer physical.
I never pictured myself with a phablet, then again I was mister bah humbug qi charging....after I got a charger for my 920 I dont want a phone without it. I think I'm going to have to go with the big boy on this I want it native not via case...

my 920 has seen better days, wont fill in the time with a 640 or xl due to lack of qi....
Phone cant come quick enough.

 

[windowshopper23]

I agree with this. The Zune HD was one of the sexiest pieces of tech in the past decade. Again, Microsoft CAN design elegant products. The Zune HD, their Surface line-up. Which is all the more baffling that what they came up with for their WP10 flagship looks like a scrapped Nokia mid-range lumia design. Just blows my mind, because i know Microsoft has terrific designers at their disposal. So to get this.. After the flagships that came before it. It's disappointing to say the least.

 

[Gunnar Orloff]

I think the design of the new 950 and 950 XL looks very good. Com on its just a phone and with great specs like this and the right size too like the 950 XL its good enough for me.
But they are very late out with the windows 10 for phones, and new phones as always comes late, but with the right price who cares.:smile:

 

[11B1P]

It's competing against the iPhone 6/6s, s6/s6 edge+, z3+/Z5. you don't need to see it in real life to see that Microsoft flopped the design this year.

You have no idea what the final design looks like. All we've seen is a "rendering". Until the phones are actually shown, they could have an external antenna and QWERTY keyboard for all we know.

 

[pkadare]

I understand the point you're trying to make, however, you've not done a great job making it.

Both an external antenna and a hardware keyboard violate the Microsoft reference design rules for Windows Phones.

 

[11B1P]

I understand the point you're trying to make, however, you've not done a great job making it.

Both an external antenna and a hardware keyboard violate the Microsoft reference design rules for Windows Phones.

haha, I know. I had to go extreme to make a point. But on the flip side, remember when MS said WP had to have a physical camera button? That design requirement has been relaxed.

 

[Rafael Martins1]

"Every OS suck at thus stage. Android keeps sucking even after this stage."

hahahahahahaha good

 

[SAM 77]

I like the design allright, its ok (dont like the metal camera ring.) In all honesty I'm not thrilled about on screen keys, I'd prefer physical.
I never pictured myself with a phablet, then again I was mister bah humbug qi charging....after I got a charger for my 920 I dont want a phone without it. I think I'm going to have to go with the big boy on this I want it native not via case...

my 920 has seen better days, wont fill in the time with a 640 or xl due to lack of qi....
Phone cant come quick enough.

Pretty much sums up my position.

Still rockin on a lumia 820 and as bland lookin as these leaks look the specs are dare I say it decent (lol 830)

 

[akshaypn]

Yeah, W10M and these flagship renders look bland, uninspiring, non premium, non flagshippy and the 950 with that ring is really ugly.. Though I would buy the bigger one if they sell it for 250 - 300 $..

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[colinkiama]

BB has always made good handset..and this one is no exception.Now if it would have windows 10 on that phone it would be awsome

Shame it's gonna have android on the phone instead lol

 

[colinkiama]

All of which are incredibly expensive phones. If the Microsoft Flagships are more affordable but have similar performance, that seems like a very good thing.

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Omg you are on to something

 

[ibrahimcelik]

I think we have to wait until the real ones show up to make judgements, but these renders, they look "old but not obsolete"

 

[Krystianpants]

All that and still didnt answere the question.

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Maybe read it again. Design is a big factor and not a plastic helmet casing. Every phone can have the same internals. What else can distinguish it?

 

[Krystianpants]

I'm still rocking my Lumia 900, no design comes close to what made Windows Phone appealing to me. I can't put my finger at what's wrong with these models, but they don't look right. Proportions? Position of the camera module? Unused bezel at the bottom? For a premium product, I don't get why on-screen keys are even there. They're cramped and look like an afterthought compared to the placement of the hardware buttons on my own phone, that use as much of the space as possible.

Not bashing the designers - but I think the City and Talk have lost a lot of the crafted elegance that the old Nokia team used to imbue in their products. Even the outsourcing MS did for their Zune HD was spot on and didn't pull any punches for the sake of playing it safe with design (what I think MS is doing). It was a flop because of bad marketing and being late to the game, but I still consider it one of the nicest pieces of hardware I've ever owned. Taking design cues from that would be flagship material, IMHO.

http://i.imgur.com/W1usj3g.png

That's actually a good design for the time period. Granted now you would want to remove the bezel etc.. Funny the sharp android phone seems to have done something similar.

 

[taymur]

Seriously the new designs are....ok. I mots probably can get over most of it, actually the more i see those renders the more i am getting use to them.

but the part that i am sure i will never get over is the weird ring on the back of the 950.... gives the feeling of an old Sony Eriksson device.