ricbon
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hell no we knew this type of **** would happen and even the risk of bricking or breaking warranty.
Um. No. These are the bits sent to the manufacturers. Yes, there may come a patch, but that's like saying every month that Windows 8 is still beta because every month it gets new patches. No. This is the final product just like what you have on your PC is the final product. They don't send it to manufacturers while in beta.It's more like the final beta test before final release.
Um. No. These are the bits sent to the manufacturers. Yes, there may come a patch, but that's like saying every month that Windows 8 is still beta because every month it gets new patches. No. This is the final product just like what you have on your PC is the final product. They don't send it to manufacturers while in beta.
Um. No. These are the bits sent to the manufacturers. Yes, there may come a patch, but that's like saying every month that Windows 8 is still beta because every month it gets new patches. No. This is the final product just like what you have on your PC is the final product. They don't send it to manufacturers while in beta.
MS will absolutely respin a fresh image when the bugs that meet a certain severity criteria are all dealt with, and may tack on a fixpack as part of the post install process.
Given the level of negativity on the forums, do people think that it was a mistake to allow the general public to download the Preview for Developers?
It's not that I feel the criticism of the build is unjustified - trust me, I've had my fair share of issues and I do feel that somehow something has been lost in the transition between 8.0 and 8.1
My question is more, has it been oversold as somehow the "finished article" when it isn't? Should this have been better explained? Should people outside the developer community have had access especially as manufacturers hadn't released updated firmware?
MS did that. THIS IS THAT IMAGE.
I hate having to repost but feel it is necessary
Despite some of the best efforts of users in this thread there really is a lot of confusion.
I was hoping my Post on an alternate thread would help clarify things.
To everyone saying this is a beta. No it ISN'T. This is RTM (Release To Manufacturers).
To those saying this is a final build. This is NOT a final build.
This RTM version is feature frozen, which (as previously stated in my other post) means that everything you see and interact with is not going to change in regards to functionality and UI. More builds are going to be released (just as they were with GDR3) that will fix any bugs and issues found by both Manufacturers developing handsets and drivers for their handsets, and by those of us who have volunteered to use the Developer Preview program.
Towards the end of May (based on articles i have read, i'll find links and add them shortly) the new handsets and the GA (General Availability) of Windows Phone 8.1 will mean that we will all receive the final build version with a number of, if not all, the bugs resolved and ironed out.
Whilst i dont want to criticise people for their naivety in signing up for the dev preview and are now complaining that they have bugs and issues. It is however a gamble that you agreed to take when volunteering to participate in such a program.
If you do have problems then i really do feel sorry for you and hope that your issues are resolved ASAP so you can begin to enjoy using this OS in the same way i have on my Lumia 925.
At the same time it would be worth asking the community here for help or workarounds to your issues until they are fixed properly by either the handset manufacturer or Microsoft.
Actually, I do.Those that keep spouting that the DP is the final image simply don't understand how SDLC works.
Actually, I do.
You don't think that there will be post-RTM fixes that Microsoft will collaborate with OEMs on? What I've heard seems to indicate that there will be something. I mean, I haven't had any problems so I don't really need a fix, but for the small, vocal minority who have had problems, I hope there will be a fix. They may come with the firmware, but I suspect that there will be some bug fixes.
History demonstrates that the same build that went to the Preview for Developers was sent out the public channel to several phones. To those who say that the build we are running is not a final build, a build intended for public consumption, I submit to you documentation from the history of the Preview for Developers program, that your claims are based on false assumptions. Please provide links to documentation if you wish to disprove me.
Ok. RTM has already happened. :wink:GDR3 was a tiny release compared to 8.1. From what I remember there were almost no reported problems with it. Even so it was eventually updated which lends credence to the theory that an update to the preview is in both possible and based on the size of the release probable. The truth is no one here knows whether this is the final build. People on both sides are just speculating.
Even the Dev preview FAQ refers to it as: "at least a RTM candidate". (updated as of the 14th)
There's also this line:
Is the developer preview version the same as the one in the official RTM roll-out?
If any critical issues are found in the preview they will be fixed before RTM.
Developer Preview Program FAQ - Get Windows Phone 8.1 today - Microsoft Community