How to make Windows Phone killer

[loki993]

We have apps, we need more. Making the base OS much better than Android and iOS would make it more likely for devs to spend time,with and enjoy using it.

Your right and it would help, but they can love the OS all they want, if it doesn't make financial sense to develop for it they probably wont.

 

[Pete]

We have apps, we need more. Making the base OS much better than Android and iOS would make it more likely for devs to spend time,with and enjoy using it.

I don't agree. App developers need volume of users - that's what brings in ad and sales revenue and makes developing quality apps worthwhile. Good apps aren't cheap to make and developers need to be assured that their investment will pay off.

Microsoft has done everything right - the only thing wrong is the fact that Apple and Google built up a significant customer base before Microsoft got things off the ground.

 

[Trench Mouth]

I know this is off topic, sort of, we are talking about apps. I am resetting my phone, and as I am waiting for apps to reinstall, I noticed that the light view of the app waiting to be downloaded on the start screen actually fills up like a status bar as it is downloaded - in real time. The app icon went from dull, to filling with color to normal right on the start screen. I never saw that before, maybe something to do with the update?

 

[anon5997296]

We need both.. Period.

 

[etad putta]

Flagship phones always free under contract, and $100 cheaper than a moto x or nexus 5 off contract. Money always rules. If you charge less, people will come.

 

[loki993]

Flagship phones always free under contract, and $100 cheaper than a moto x or nexus 5 off contract. Money always rules. If you charge less, people will come.

This is actually a pretty good idea

 

[bijak_riyandi]

Camera
Merge with Nokia Camera or at least absorb all the functionality from the Nokia Camera apps

no, absolutely not!
I don't want to see a Samsung device uses Nokia's superior imaging algorithm

 

[Indistinguishable]

I disagree I think the best way to make Windows Phone a killer is having unstable battery that explodes.

I was thinking a Drone app of some sort. But this might work too.

 

[Mkeallison]

no, absolutely not!
I don't want to see a Samsung device uses Nokia's superior imaging algorithm

Why not? It doesn't take anything away from your phone?

 

[bijak_riyandi]

Why not? It doesn't take anything away from your phone?

it takes the uniqueness of Nokia

 

[Ebuka Allison]

it takes the uniqueness of Nokia

Thread title: How to make Windows Phone Killer

 

[Torcher Death]

The problem is that MS is a late entrant to the smartphone market.... so unless WP is able to provide something that the other 2 (iOS & droid) cannot, seriously doubt many people would convert.
Almost everyone round me is a droid user & although they like the UI & live tiles....get turned off by the lack of apps & features.

 

[HAMEDACC]

All of us know about WP disadvantages, like: lag, frustrating Resuming, battery raining and this kind of issues
But these are not the main issues
the main Issue is that DEVELOPERS have not any INTEREST in WP OS platform
and it causes killing app gap and app last update gap

I think MS and WP team do all they could, JUST there is NO DEV SUPPORT

 

[HAMEDACC]

Almost everyone round me is a droid user & although they like the UI & live tiles....get turned off by the lack of apps & features.

and after adding notification center, functionality of live tiles fall, app gap and features really turn off

 

[Torcher Death]

ya the notification center was a total let down for me ...but atleast it gives u the ability to turn on & off wifi, mobile data, etc easily rather than having to go through settings each time + removing the hubs was a bad decision in my opinion, its what differentiated WP from android...sure it had bugs but it was a selling point

 

[Ebuka Allison]

All of us know about WP disadvantages, like: lag, frustrating Resuming, battery raining and this kind of issues
But these are not the main issues
the main Issue is that DEVELOPERS have not any INTEREST in WP OS platform
and it causes killing app gap and app last update gap

I think MS and WP team do all they could, JUST there is NO DEV SUPPORT

Devs are likely to develop for something they like to use. Devs like iPhones, hence even though there are more Androids in use, iPhones have more devs. If MS makes a phone that appeals more than the iPhone and not merely an iPhone with tiles, then there would be something. Also, all phones have lag. Battery, etc. I've given up on finding one that doesn't and just look for the least frustrating one.

 

[Sting921]

Reducing the 'Resuming app' time would be pretty good and after that as someone said above making attractive phones can help. People tend to you sexier looking phones especially celebrities. Making the UI more attractive is another thing that should be done.

 

[N_LaRUE]

Reducing the 'Resuming app' time would be pretty good and after that as someone said above making attractive phones can help. People tend to you sexier looking phones especially celebrities. Making the UI more attractive is another thing that should be done.

This is BS. I think Androids are some of the ugliest phones I've seen and yet they outsell everything.

Why do people complain about the UI? The whole point of the UI was simplicity. Now all I hear is complaints about it. I fully blame MS for not explaining the WP properly and not advertising it well. That's been 50% of the issues with WP. The other 50% has been apps.

You can make fantastic looking phones, you can load it with features. Means absolutely nothing if no one is going to buy it because it doesn't have x.,y or z app. This is one of the main issues with WP. It hasn't changed since I started using it over 1 1/2 years ago. 3rd party apps won't cut it. People want the 'real' app and if you don't have it people will ask why. Image, like I said is everything. It doesn't matter if the app is a port of iOS or Android at least get the damn thing on WP then see about making it a WP app. Games shouldn't be an issue but yet we lack tonnes of them too.

So to make WP killer means MS has to advertise the crap out of it and get the main apps people want. Until then nothing else matters. Features and customization aside, apps are number one priority.

It's sad to think we've been saying this for almost 2 years now. Not much has changed.

 

[Sting921]

This is BS. I think Androids are some of the ugliest phones I've seen and yet they outsell everything.

Why do people complain about the UI? The whole point of the UI was simplicity. Now all I hear is complaints about it. I fully blame MS for not explaining the WP properly and not advertising it well. That's been 50% of the issues with WP. The other 50% has been apps.

You can make fantastic looking phones, you can load it with features. Means absolutely nothing if no one is going to buy it because it doesn't have x.,y or z app. This is one of the main issues with WP. It hasn't changed since I started using it over 1 1/2 years ago. 3rd party apps won't cut it. People want the 'real' app and if you don't have it people will ask why. Image, like I said is everything. It doesn't matter if the app is a port of iOS or Android at least get the damn thing on WP then see about making it a WP app. Games shouldn't be an issue but yet we lack tonnes of them too.

So to make WP killer means MS has to advertise the crap out of it and get the main apps people want. Until then nothing else matters. Features and customization aside, apps are number one priority.

It's sad to think we've been saying this for almost 2 years now. Not much has changed.

I disagree. When the android phones came in market, they were available in different designs and sizes catering to different taste. This is due large number of manufacturers adopting Android. Even today companies like Sony come up with a flagship every 6 months while Nokia is not so par with the competition and also lack of choices in WP is also a let down. I never complained about the UI, I feel the Windows 8 UI is very beautiful and simple but still needs improvement. Especially the Action centre could be alot better rather than being very basic.

 

[bijak_riyandi]

Thread title: How to make Windows Phone Killer

well perhaps Microsoft can encourage Samsung or other OEMs to make their f**king own imaging algorithm rather than using Nokia's one to be used by any OEMs through Microsoft Camera

I firmly believe there are ways to make Windows Phone better without taking uniqueness of one OEM even after The Great Absorption