Microsoft should release a 12" Surface

How about administrative tools and software not controlled by apps? There is too much emphasis places on apps. Lets talk about enterprise firewalls, routers, IDS, audit logging, etc. Are there apps for that? They is more productivity required in many cases that apps alone cannot solve. These require a full feature OS, such as Windows or OSX, to be able to administer. I can do anything I want with my Surface 3 that I want within its technical capability. I can even install PC games and play those. I cannot say that with regard to any iPad. I could have said that if they had put OSX on it. For this reason, I think the "Pro" moniker is wasted on this device. It is an iPad XL.
 
So you are saying that 95% of people never open the file explorer, copy files, renaming files, generating a pdf file and have it emailed to someone.

Okay, you can give up this important feature. You are also giving up productivity. This is your choice but not most people's choice.

The inability to manipulate files is a major drawback of iOS as compared to a desktop OS - this is a well known fact about iOS.

Well, you may use iPad mainly as a content consumption device plus some basic content creation. You cannot manipulate files. Then your use cases would be very limited. At the end you still need to have a PC/Mac to consolidate your files.

Users expect to do everything on a productivity tablet, instead of just basic content creation. I can use my Surface to do all sophisticated tasks, thanks to the ability of manipulating files.

And iPad? What if the app does not support Cloud? I need to email myself a copy of the document, open it with the app, edit it, and email the modified document again. Doing this is very stupid. Maybe you like this. But many people hate this.

There are too many use cases that people need to manipulate files. You should know that very well.

Seems that you don't need a PC while many people still need it. And you described this important feature as something only a minority of people would use. Seems that you are the 5% of efficient people who can work efficiently in such a limited OS (iOS). Many people are not as efficient as you.

There is just no room for debate on iOS against desktop OS (Windows/Mac) as far as file management is concerned. And this is just one of the limitations of iOS as compared to a desktop OS.

And you're saying a large portion of the computer using populace even knows how to do that?
 
If they were going to do that in order to compete with the iPad Pro, they would also have to increase the pixel density. So the price wouldn't be far off that of the i3 Surface Pro. While I agree that the Surface 3 is probably overall better than the iPro, you might as well get the i3 pro.

Also both these companies aren't so much looking to switch people from one to the other, they're looking to get the new customers on board. Old customers with their iTunes library and app library's all set up aren't very likely to switch. They've made an investment.
 
This thread needs to be renamed iPad vs Surface.

Apple is for iPhonemaniacs. So why is a iPhonemaniac in a Windows forum? Oooo I know, to be a total <censored> LoL GO AWAY iPHONEMANIAC!!! There are forums for sheeps!!!! I like Windows (have a Laptop and the Surface 3) I like Android (Have the LG Pro 7 and Note Edge) And I use to have the iPhone4. The only OS I don't ever use again is iOS. Not because I don't like it, but because I can't make it look cool without buying a case!!!!

But here is one thing that might settle it all.

Everyone has their own idea of what the perfect computer/phone/tablet to have. And no amount of bickering is going to change that. You are wasting bandwidth!! :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

Stop being a ******.
 
To all members: Cool it with the ******, iSheep and all that other nonsense....like right this minute.
 

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