My Theory On The Delayed Amber Update

[Derausgewanderte]

why does this deserve a separate thread when we already discussed all this here?

 

[Wilsen Hernandez]

^it's true. look at the Lumia 920. international version is RM-820 and AT&T's is RM-821. international supports penta-band LTE with no support for AT&T's band while regional gets only tri-band LTE but all those bands are AT&T's. so the sim-free version wouldn't have LTE in NA.

My unbranded 920 is RM-821 and at Field Test settings it shows 5 bands for LTE.. How's that?

 

[inteller]

The carriers won't support it.

it is not their ******* choice whether or not to support it! Google sells Nexus 4 just fine!

 

[inteller]

My unbranded 920 is RM-821 and at Field Test settings it shows 5 bands for LTE.. How's that?

where did you buy it?

 

[inteller]

^it's true. look at the Lumia 920. international version is RM-820 and AT&T's is RM-821. international supports penta-band LTE with no support for AT&T's band while regional gets only tri-band LTE but all those bands are AT&T's. so the sim-free version wouldn't have LTE in NA.

nothing prevents any phone maker from making a phone that supports the necessary bands for where it is sold.

 

[spyderzWPC]

They also have the power to remove features from OS, for example Data Sense, which is actually what we have already paid for. Or maybe at the time when we decided to purchase an AT&T phone/service, we were doomed to be treated unequally. I hate that AT&T always exercises their "power" to limit what their user can get from what is available.

hey Verizon did the same thing, that's why when I had my wp7 I left them no visual voicemail and no wireless tethering...remember the grass is always greener on the other side...because it gets more manure...att has been such a better supporter of the windows phone, it was worth leaving.

 

[WPBlox1989]

James8561 mixed-up the RM numbers for the AT&T and international versions of the Lumia 920.

RM-820 is the AT&T Lumia 920 and RM-821 is the international version.

 

[Reflexx]

it is not their ******* choice whether or not to support it! Google sells Nexus 4 just fine!

It is their choice.

They can just say that they won't market Windows Phone at all.

Nokia tried doing that stuff before. More bands that worked on multiple carriers. Dual SIMs. And guess what? Carriers in the US stopped subsidizing Nokia smart phones.

...and then Nokia seemed to just... disappear.

 

[bglf83]

Nokia did not due business in the USA because of a lawsuit that had something to do with cell radios and copy right crap. That's why they disappeared for a while.

Sent from my RM-820_nam_canada_246 using Tapatalk

 

[inteller]

Once again, Google has PROVEN there is a market for phones sold to people who violently will not be part of the carrier scheme. These are customers that the carrier never will get, so to simply say they don't support it or don't approve simply means nothing.

 

[Reflexx]

Nokia did not due business in the USA because of a lawsuit that had something to do with cell radios and copy right crap. That's why they disappeared for a while.

Sent from my RM-820_nam_canada_246 using Tapatalk

They were still doing business here. Just not selling through carriers

 

[Reflexx]

Once again, Google has PROVEN there is a market for phones sold to people who violently will not be part of the carrier scheme. These are customers that the carrier never will get, so to simply say they don't support it or don't approve simply means nothing.

Not a bug enough market.

And Android is already well established here. The people buying the Nexus off contract are for the most part tinkerers that want to start with a nice clean slate. They're also Android fans.

Nokia doesn't have that here.

 

[iamtim]

it is not their ******* choice whether or not to support it!

That's funny. ��

 

[inteller]

Just wait, Microsoft will offer sim free versions in their store....there is no stopping the pre paid market.

 

[inteller]

. The people buying the Nexus off contract are for the most part tinkerers that want to start with a nice clean slate. They're also Android fans.

Nokia doesn't have that here.

you don't know that. If the phones are sold at full price, who cares how many they sell? The carriers won't because they pose no competition to them otherwise.

 

[Reflexx]

If that were true, you'd see it more often.

 

[ricbon]

MS needs to do what google is doing make part of the OS an app so we can download from the market like make data sense an app.

 

[Wilsen Hernandez]

where did you buy it?

I bought it from Amazon, a month ago.

 

[jfa1]

Or seeing than GDR3 is coming up. maybe they will just push that instead.

Which is what vodaphone decided to do!

 

[inteller]

I bought it from Amazon, a month ago.

got a link? The only ones I see there are vague in saying unlocked, but don't confirm they are UNRBANDED.