Getting back to the topic do you think Microsoft should give up on taking over android and focus on taking over apple's market share since they are both using a closed platform os
Getting back to the topic do you think Microsoft should give up on taking over android and focus on taking over apple's market share since they are both using a closed platform os
Microsoft never had a chance at taking Android in the first place. No one does in reality. If anything Microsoft should focus on building on what they have instead of focusing on taking either one of them.
I just read your initial post again, and I don't see how this has anything to do with the topic. So, let's change the topic.
Microsoft is trying to take over parts of Andorid's market share by focusing on low cost phones. There's no premium phone available, even the 930 will have less specs and less excitement than the competition. So if they would want to attack Apples market share, they had to provide a premium phone with a premium feel. But seeing that HTC is struggling for years now trying to do exactly that with their Android high-end devices, I don't think it's the best idea.
I think the problem is that the market is already saturated. There are only a few "dumb-phones" left to win over new users. Most people are already using a smartphone with either Android or iOS. So they have to attack the competition in some way.
Google is more transparent than Apple or Microsoft. Sneaky? A read of their TOS or even just figuring out how they make money will give you a good insight.
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Exactly..I just read your initial post again, and I don't see how this has anything to do with the topic. So, let's change the topic.
Microsoft is trying to take over parts of Andorid's market share by focusing on low cost phones. There's no premium phone available, even the 930 will have less specs and less excitement than the competition. So if they would want to attack Apples market share, they had to provide a premium phone with a premium feel. But seeing that HTC is struggling for years now trying to do exactly that with their Android high-end devices, I don't think it's the best idea.
I think the problem is that the market is already saturated. There are only a few "dumb-phones" left to win over new users. Most people are already using a smartphone with either Android or iOS. So they have to attack the competition in some way.
I just read your initial post again, and I don't see how this has anything to do with the topic. So, let's change the topic.
Microsoft is trying to take over parts of Andorid's market share by focusing on low cost phones. There's no premium phone available, even the 930 will have less specs and less excitement than the competition. So if they would want to attack Apples market share, they had to provide a premium phone with a premium feel. But seeing that HTC is struggling for years now trying to do exactly that with their Android high-end devices, I don't think it's the best idea.
I think the problem is that the market is already saturated. There are only a few "dumb-phones" left to win over new users. Most people are already using a smartphone with either Android or iOS. So they have to attack the competition in some way.
If something is overpriced you don't buy it. It's not like Apple has a monopoly or anything. If it were overpriced they wouldn't be that successful and had to decrease the prices.
Apple products are simply not overpriced, they are very successful in their price niche. Every company would be tremendously stupid to decrease prices with all the products they sell for the price.
You might think that Apple products are being overpriced, but millions of people buying these products obviously don't.
And millions of people do think that Apple products are overpriced. "Don't buy it then" is a lame response that is just a glorified "who cares?" argument that adds nothing to the discussion. You're chastising someone for bringing up a perspective that you happen to disagree with. The person who brought up the point wasn't even complaining about it, so why are you pretending he was?
I laughed to those people who think that Google spy but MS not.
Latest Reason To Quit Hotmail: Microsoft Admits To Spying On It
Their are lots if news of ms spying.
Don't you guys know about NSA case?
And what Cortana. It's also keep records of yours interest or other things.
If privacy is the biggest concern for you then the only solution is to stop using internet.
actually other than a few high end phones , HTC mid range and low range phones feel inferior to the competition
even the moto G has a better quality build than the lower HTCs
the 930 is actually one of the best lumias ever produced in terms of design etc
infact all lumias except the 625,620 and 630 feel very premium(the 6xx series isnt bad but compared to the other lumias it is)
Cortana will keep the records you want her to keep And I don't understand why you Americans are so scared of of the NSA spying on you. Its not like they are gonna spread the info they gathered to a stranger.
The 5S also has a 64-bit processor, metal construction and much higher resale value. Like I said, value means more than dollars and cents. My point is not only valid, it's vindicated. I don't like the iPhone or iOS, but I'm not blind to its virtues. Just like I don't care for Scarlett Johansson, but there's no denying she's smoking hot.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not disputing the quality of Lumias or the 930. It's a sweet phone. It looks good, it has good hardware, it has a good OS, it has a very good camera. It's great! But it's in no way exciting.
As an American, I will take that on.
The problem with our own American Government spying on us is twofold. First, we are an open society based on free speech. Our government should be afraid of the people, not the people of the Government. The ability to read our private communications allows the government almost unprecedented ability to know how to manipulate the people.
In a democracy, you own you. The government doesn't own you. It's purpose is to serve you. Corrupting that purpose corrupts your own rights to self-determination. It's why in American law there has always been a provision for privacy.
I am not trying to argue that Americans love our Government or that it's not corrupt or even that it's doing a reasonable job, but our imperfect system has its merits, and it's worth preserving our privacy to preserve our liberty. For me personally, that's why I don't feel comfortable in a walled-off Apple dictatorship (Stalin made the trains run on time, after all, but that's not for me), but that's another story.
The second reason is primarily why I am opposed to the collection of any of this data, and that's because the creation and storage of this data creates an unnecessary vulnerability. The government has proven itself vulnerable to hacking across the board. Should we assume that the NSA is so clever that it itself cannot be hacked? Knowledge is power, and if the NSA is collecting all our phone and email traffic and someone knows how to access that data, they could manipulate outcomes for their own benefit. It could be anything from betting on sports (imagine if you knew that the star quarterback was having blinding headaches that he was hiding from the coaching staff) to betting on the stock market (the CEO was having second thoughts about that big merger) to whose wife or husband was having an affair.
For that same reason, I don't want Google indexing my email. Or storing data about my movements, or which web pages I might go to. Any centralized collection of this sort of data should be illegal.
And for those of you that will say Google has required you to agree to its privacy policy, we all know that no one ever reads the policy, since the services they provide are not available unless you accept. Many times it's the store clerk who is setting up your new Galaxy S5 that's accepting that privacy policy anyway (I have watched this repeatedly). No one would buy an Android device and then fail to activate it's most powerful features. And Google, by requiring you to establish a gmail account to use the phone, leaves you always signed in and your device constantly reporting back everything you do.
When I got my Nokia Icon, it was because I was making a conscious effort to remove myself from the Google ecosystem. It was initially very frustrating, because there were key holes in the OS and no good browsers. 8.1 solved virtually all of my complaints, and I am finally quite happy with my phone. And yes, my advertising ID is turned off.
It may seem ironic given the core values of Google when the company was founded (don't be evil), but I have a lot more trust in Microsoft than I do Google. That's important, not only for my privacy now, but also for a future world in which virtually everything in our digital lives will be stored in the cloud.
Imagine having 100gb of data on Google Drive and they announce a change to their privacy policy. Could you move it all quickly enough? Would you?
Before you say that they would never make such a change because they would lose their user base, ask yourself why so many people willingly click accept now when they activate their smartphones. Is it because they have weighed the risks and trust Google to have their best interests at heart? Or because they just don't realize what they are giving away?
In a democracy, you own you. Not a king or a dictator. But in Google's world, they own you - the moment you click accept. You are not simply purchasing a consumer electronics product, and you are most certainly NOT Google's customer - you are their PRODUCT.
I laughed to those people who think that Google spy but MS not.
Latest Reason To Quit Hotmail: Microsoft Admits To Spying On It
Their are lots if news of ms spying.
Don't you guys know about NSA case?
And what Cortana. It's also keep records of yours interest or other things.
If privacy is the biggest concern for you then the only solution is to stop using internet.
what you posted is valid but why isnt there an off switch or a way to turn it off, it would not hurt them as such because 98% of people wouldnt even use or know abt it even if they made one but im one of the 2%, thats sneaky isnt it
As an American, I will take that on.
The problem with our own American Government spying on us is twofold. First, we are an open society based on free speech. Our government should be afraid of the people, not the people of the Government. The ability to read our private communications allows the government almost unprecedented ability to know how to manipulate the people.
In a democracy, you own you. The government doesn't own you. It's purpose is to serve you. Corrupting that purpose corrupts your own rights to self-determination. It's why in American law there has always been a provision for privacy.
I am not trying to argue that Americans love our Government or that it's not corrupt or even that it's doing a reasonable job, but our imperfect system has its merits, and it's worth preserving our privacy to preserve our liberty. For me personally, that's why I don't feel comfortable in a walled-off Apple dictatorship (Stalin made the trains run on time, after all, but that's not for me), but that's another story.
The second reason is primarily why I am opposed to the collection of any of this data, and that's because the creation and storage of this data creates an unnecessary vulnerability. The government has proven itself vulnerable to hacking across the board. Should we assume that the NSA is so clever that it itself cannot be hacked? Knowledge is power, and if the NSA is collecting all our phone and email traffic and someone knows how to access that data, they could manipulate outcomes for their own benefit. It could be anything from betting on sports (imagine if you knew that the star quarterback was having blinding headaches that he was hiding from the coaching staff) to betting on the stock market (the CEO was having second thoughts about that big merger) to whose wife or husband was having an affair.
For that same reason, I don't want Google indexing my email. Or storing data about my movements, or which web pages I might go to. Any centralized collection of this sort of data should be illegal.
And for those of you that will say Google has required you to agree to its privacy policy, we all know that no one ever reads the policy, since the services they provide are not available unless you accept. Many times it's the store clerk who is setting up your new Galaxy S5 that's accepting that privacy policy anyway (I have watched this repeatedly). No one would buy an Android device and then fail to activate it's most powerful features. And Google, by requiring you to establish a gmail account to use the phone, leaves you always signed in and your device constantly reporting back everything you do.
When I got my Nokia Icon, it was because I was making a conscious effort to remove myself from the Google ecosystem. It was initially very frustrating, because there were key holes in the OS and no good browsers. 8.1 solved virtually all of my complaints, and I am finally quite happy with my phone. And yes, my advertising ID is turned off.
It may seem ironic given the core values of Google when the company was founded (don't be evil), but I have a lot more trust in Microsoft than I do Google. That's important, not only for my privacy now, but also for a future world in which virtually everything in our digital lives will be stored in the cloud.
Imagine having 100gb of data on Google Drive and they announce a change to their privacy policy. Could you move it all quickly enough? Would you?
Before you say that they would never make such a change because they would lose their user base, ask yourself why so many people willingly click accept now when they activate their smartphones. Is it because they have weighed the risks and trust Google to have their best interests at heart? Or because they just don't realize what they are giving away?
In a democracy, you own you. Not a king or a dictator. But in Google's world, they own you - the moment you click accept. You are not simply purchasing a consumer electronics product, and you are most certainly NOT Google's customer - you are their PRODUCT.