920Walker
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Sometimes a budget laptop can be had for a bit more than the cost of a monitor, keyboard and mouse. Also, there's the added cost of the continuum dock; Munchkin.
I'd beg to differ on the nexus. The nexus has never represented budget devices, two models (and the new two as yet unreleased) have been subsidized by Google to have budget device like pricing. There aren't areas being skimped on in terms of hardware... it may be a challenge to find something that beats the Nexus 6P on the spec sheet. All Metal, 128 GB storage option, SD 810v2.1, 3 GB RAM, Camera (not as good as Z5 according to tests but on par with or better than all other tested flagships this year), 5.7" 1440p AMOLED screen, gigantic battery, USB-C, Fingerprint scanner, etc, etc. This is not a budget device, but it is $500. The budget devices on Android are the Moto G, ZenFone 2, etc. They're usually sub $200-300 and you're paying for less and getting less in terms of hardware.It's unrealistic for people to say these phones should be under $500.
Spec wise, 950/950xl are on par with any flagships out there. Plus continuum, Windows Hello, SD card slot, exchangeable battery, dual SIM, and the expected superior camera they are truly strong competitors.
Strategy wise, MS won't want these two phones comparable with Nexus. Nexus has always been the representative of the best budget phone, while 950/950xl aim at premium business and WP fans markets. They will be charged similar to Galaxy S6 and iphone, but a little bit lower to compete.
My guess is $579 for 950, and $659 for 950xl.
MS made an Android device with a windows mobile skin on it, but they went super cheap and didn't take it seriously. I'm not sure if switching to Android is MS's best play. Getting their apps in the Play Store is important but not sure about abandoning the windows part.Absolutely! MS is 90 billion dollar company. They should also make an agreement with Google like Blackberry did to add the Google Store and not have to wait for developers to bring apps over. They shouldn't have to rely on them just make it easier and strike a deal!
Nowhere did I say that aggressive pricing is the only means by which to gain market share. It stands to reason this would be part of any market share growth strategy however. Many here are expecting the L950/XL to be priced aggressively, precisely because they believe MS would be stupid not to chase market share in that way. When that doesn't happen, it should signify to those folks that MS does in fact not believe market share to be an important enough goal to follow by such means. It's just one of many indicators, and one we'll be able to verify soon. That's why I mentioned it.
Exactly. Whatever your preferred interpretation is, this does, at the very least, signify that MS is not willing to make the same sized investments into smartphone hardware innovations as Nokia previously has. Unless the folks in Redmond were just sitting around twiddling their thumbs, there is no way they will be able to pick up all the slack.
I'm not buying the idea that the abstract notion of "a complete ecosystem" can play an important role in an effective market share growth strategy.
It's okay that you mention it, but it's not okay to spin it as MS not caring about W10M. Those are completely different things. It would be like saying that since iOS only has 15% of the market share that Apple doesn't care about iOS unless they start lowering their hardware price by half to "beat Android". It's not an apt analogy to make to begin with, so I'm going to point out how ridiculous it is.
It's unrealistic for people to say these phones should be under $500.
Spec wise, 950/950xl are on par with any flagships out there. Plus continuum, Windows Hello, SD card slot, exchangeable battery, dual SIM, and the expected superior camera they are truly strong competitors.
Strategy wise, MS won't want these two phones comparable with Nexus. Nexus has always been the representative of the best budget phone, while 950/950xl aim at premium business and WP fans markets. They will be charged similar to Galaxy S6 and iphone, but a little bit lower to compete.
My guess is $579 for 950, and $659 for 950xl.
There is really no reason why MS, who has billions in profit cannot do it.
Certainly they can, but how much longer should they keep throwing money at it? It has already been 5 years...
Looking at this leak photos, those phones are still DOWNGRADE for my LUMIA 1520
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