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WPC, Do you think your surface pro 2 will replace your non-gaming/mobile workstation laptop as your main mobile computing device?
Surface pro 2, The basic/ultrabook laptop killer?
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dc9super80
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I Dont have one, but I considered getting one with precisely that in mind.
Tapatalking on the N7....
juanitoriv
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That's the only reason I would get one, even though I don't have a laptop, I've been finding a need for portability. Why buy a tablet and a laptop when I could have 2 in 1. Also considering the Dell Venue Pro 11, Toshiba Satellite Click, HP Split X2 & just found these today, the Gigabyte S1082 or even S1185 (which looks sweet as hell to me).. Just sayin
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It has for me but I think it boils down to how each individual chooses to use the device. Some people simply prefer the feel of a laptop rather than a tablet or touch device. The screen can be on the small side as well, especially if you spend a lot if time in the desktop (remote or local).
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Yeh the screen is small, but I currently have an 11 inch MacBook Air which is also small, but at work, it is connected to an external monitor. I think the surface would have been just fine as well.
Tapatalking on the N7....
It has replaced my Nexus 7 and Thinkpad T410.
But even as a tablet, its still more about productivity than fun. (i.e. I use my SP2 in tablet mode for note taking and reading, not playing games like most tablets are used for)
The screen is indeed small but I think I've already adjusted. I turned scaling down to 125% and I end up with a lot more screen real estate in terms of pixels than my Thinkpad.
My T410 was a 14" at 1440x900 res. I can do more on SP2's 10.5" at 1920x1080 res.
Although I guess how well you can adjust also depends on your eye sight. I have to wear glasses on a normal daily basis but the correction isnt that high and my eye sight is pretty good in general. I did have a friend who complained he couldnt see sh*t on my screen though lol.
But even as a tablet, its still more about productivity than fun. (i.e. I use my SP2 in tablet mode for note taking and reading, not playing games like most tablets are used for)
The screen is indeed small but I think I've already adjusted. I turned scaling down to 125% and I end up with a lot more screen real estate in terms of pixels than my Thinkpad.
My T410 was a 14" at 1440x900 res. I can do more on SP2's 10.5" at 1920x1080 res.
Although I guess how well you can adjust also depends on your eye sight. I have to wear glasses on a normal daily basis but the correction isnt that high and my eye sight is pretty good in general. I did have a friend who complained he couldnt see sh*t on my screen though lol.
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I love the pro and even the rt! A course both have their different reasons on why one should pick one or the other....call me crazy but I see the pro and even cheaper tablets like the rt and 2520 and others to become the norm in the coming years for a majority of people.....those In business, heavy graphic design, etc, no probably not, but what does the general public seem to use their laptops and tablets for? Imo internet browsing, gaming, email, word (office), google drive seems to be making a surge in colleges at least at my university but I don't care for it! Also watching movies and maybe Skype and social media....not much more....its not like the yr 2000 or 1995 where we were very limited in what we could do and if we wanted to do these things we had to fork over god knows how much! I love the Microsoft Pro and I love the 10" to 11/12" screen size perfect for laying in bed not to heavy not to big but seems just right....but as for phones lol seems for now bigger is better! That's just my opinion.....love to hear what others think and respectfully please. Thanks! Happy Friday!
I have a USB3 docking station connected to dual monitors, keyboard, and mouse. The Surface Pro 2 has become my main computing device for both mobile and desktop. However, I have never really been that into laptops. If I need to get real work done I would rather be at a desk setup and if I'm not working then a tablet is more enjoyable than a laptop for me. Having said that, I'm on call 24x7 for work and I love that I can use my Surface Pro 2 as an ultrabook when I'm away from home and I need to remote into work to fix an issue. I used to have to take a laptop with me everywhere just in case I got paged, but I rarely used it for anything else. Now I just bring the much smaller SP2 and I often use it anyway for entertainment purposes. For me, it is a perfect fit.
If I was the type of person that makes heavy use of a laptop for productivity tasks, I might pick a device that is a laptop first and a tablet second (i.e.: detachable or folding screen laptops) instead of the Surface Pro.
For me its a ultrabook/laptop killer, i have moved Everything to my surfade and im verry pleased with it!
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I don't have one yet, as it's sold out everywhere... except the 64GB model, 'cause no one will buy it due to low storage space, especially that for 100$ more you double the storage to something decent.
The way I see it, I look at ultrabooks... I look at the Surface Pro, both, for the same price, has the same specs, more or less. Maybe a bit faster Core i5 or an i7 option, with a bit faster integrated graphics, but nothing that is night and day, or should be really noticeable, unless you really game on it like seriously game, and every fps gain counts (might as well get one with a dedicated GPU if you are doing this, like the Razor Edge 14inch). But in exchange, it's smaller, and many cases, surprisingly, the Surface Pro 2 has a higher resolution, or the same, but has a good (for mobile devices) IPS panel, while many ultrabooks, still give you the insult to humanity, 5 degree view angle, TN panel.
So if they are somewhat comparable, might as well get the Surface Pro 2, and enjoy high build quality, solid system, perfectly smooth experience, junk free system (beside Office trial, but that's easy to uninstall), and digitize pen, for writing notes, drawing, doing graph.. basically allowing you to do things that is simply not possible (or very time consuming to do) with a laptop/ultrabook.
Although, where a laptop/ultra wins is:
-> Longer battery life, especially when pushing the system to it's max.
-> A bit more performance (as mentioned)
-> larger keyboard
-> Larger screen, despite the same resolution, making it easier to read at default Windows DPI, while on the Surface Pro 2, if you don't have good eye sight, you'll need to increase the DPI setting, which will reduce your work space.
The way I see it, I look at ultrabooks... I look at the Surface Pro, both, for the same price, has the same specs, more or less. Maybe a bit faster Core i5 or an i7 option, with a bit faster integrated graphics, but nothing that is night and day, or should be really noticeable, unless you really game on it like seriously game, and every fps gain counts (might as well get one with a dedicated GPU if you are doing this, like the Razor Edge 14inch). But in exchange, it's smaller, and many cases, surprisingly, the Surface Pro 2 has a higher resolution, or the same, but has a good (for mobile devices) IPS panel, while many ultrabooks, still give you the insult to humanity, 5 degree view angle, TN panel.
So if they are somewhat comparable, might as well get the Surface Pro 2, and enjoy high build quality, solid system, perfectly smooth experience, junk free system (beside Office trial, but that's easy to uninstall), and digitize pen, for writing notes, drawing, doing graph.. basically allowing you to do things that is simply not possible (or very time consuming to do) with a laptop/ultrabook.
Although, where a laptop/ultra wins is:
-> Longer battery life, especially when pushing the system to it's max.
-> A bit more performance (as mentioned)
-> larger keyboard
-> Larger screen, despite the same resolution, making it easier to read at default Windows DPI, while on the Surface Pro 2, if you don't have good eye sight, you'll need to increase the DPI setting, which will reduce your work space.
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Although I've never owned a personal laptop, I have had many for work purposes... right now I actually use an HP Elitebook 8440p and MacBook Pro i7 Retina. Honestly, my SP2 can easily replace all of my laptops for my work and personal use. Ive mentioned this in other threads but it really comes down to what you need it for. It can't replace my desktop COMPLETELY, about 95% is manageable and doable on the Pro2 which exceeds what I expected. It can't replace physical PCI cards I have installed for specific uses, but no regular laptop could and that's why I say its definitely a ultrabook replacement. Incredible machine that isn't getting enough media attention, everyone that's used mine is blown away and wants one of their own its just too pricey... but these are the same people who are suffice with a $300 laptop. I really hope it starts to take off in popularity.
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It already has. I have a older desktop that I was still using, an iPad, and a Lenovo Yoga 13 (last year's version). The Surface Pro 2 has replaced all those devices. I love the Yoga but it's pretty heavy and the battery life isn't the best. The iPad is just a consumption device, the Pro 2 is a real computer. And I like my desktop but obviously it isn't portable.
The Pro 2 is surprisingly a good gaming machine. I have a pretty big Steam library from all the Humble Bundle sales throughout the years and it handles most of the Indie games and basic games just fine. It's truly an awesome machine. Yes, the screen is small compared to 13 or 15 inch Ultrabooks but most of the time you are using it up close so the screen size doesn't matter. And it works great docked to an external monitor so you aren't limited to the 10 inch screen.
I actually realized the other day that the Surface would not work well for me if it were bigger. Since it relies on a kickstand and is top heavy, it has to be small enough so the entire thing can fit on a desk.
Normally thats no problem, but when you consider using it on your lap, and ESPECIALLY for me, using it on those tiny college desks with the table attached to the seat. Then it becomes a problem.
Normal laptops dont have this problem since all of the weight is on the keyboard and the hinge keeps the screen up.
I'll bet MS thought about these issues when picking the size, especially since they're pushing these devices on college campuses.
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I really wish MS would make a surface laptop. I had the Surface Pro 2, but decided that I need a bigger screen and a traditional keyboard so that I can angle the screen any which way. I returned that and got a Lenovo U430 Touch, but the horrible screen and the faulty bluetooth adapter made me return that as well. So currently, I have no laptop and am debating on whether to get another Surface Pro 2 or try the Lenovo Yoga 2. I'm just leery of Lenovo after I had the issues with the U430 Touch. I told my girlfriend, who keeps telling me to get a Mactop, that I really wish Microsoft would make a laptop with the same build quality as the Surface line. Maybe one day...
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