Update of Music app out today?

Microsoft owe us an exceptional media experience, not just better than the one we had on WP8... Better than any we had on any WP version, that's all I have to say 😒
 
There is some serious misinformation here. Microsoft stated over and over again that the Dev preview is FINAL. This is not a beta. Same with the GDR3 release on dev preview. No one expected there to be problems. If you did, then you were misinformed or not reading the right information. Now that there are problems, Microsoft is finally trying to make up on the bad rep by saying the apps aren't final and they are continuing to work on them. Which is good...but regardless, it is fact that the dev preview is the final version that is going out on the 930 and 630. Now if they realize that there are big screwups in their final code, then that's their problem and good for them for going back and attempting to fix/change things.

You are totally wrong, sorry.
 
There is some serious misinformation here. Microsoft stated over and over again that the Dev preview is FINAL. This is not a beta. Same with the GDR3 release on dev preview. No one expected there to be problems. If you did, then you were misinformed or not reading the right information. Now that there are problems, Microsoft is finally trying to make up on the bad rep by saying the apps aren't final and they are continuing to work on them. Which is good...but regardless, it is fact that the dev preview is the final version that is going out on the 930 and 630. Now if they realize that there are big screwups in their final code, then that's their problem and good for them for going back and attempting to fix/change things.

You couldn't be more wrong sir. Say it with me. "Developer Preview". Now break it down. It is a preview, not a final version but a generally complete overview of what is to be expected.

It is plastered everywhere that this is a preview. There will be updates. This will be fixed. There is no magical "fix everything switch" people need to calm down and realize this
 
He/she/its not entirely wrong, because the Developer Preview for Update 3 was the final build and the primary winkwink, nudgenudge reason for the Preview is to be the enthusiast early access program. I expected the DP 8.1 to be the RTM one.
 
He/she/its not entirely wrong, because the Developer Preview for Update 3 was the final build and the primary winkwink, nudgenudge reason for the Preview is to be the enthusiast early access program. I expected the DP 8.1 to be the RTM one.

Yes, DPU3 was the same than the version with firmware, but WP8.1 is not the same case, we know that will be another update, and all apps will receive updates too, and next firmware will unlock more features (for example, miracast on some Lumia devices).
 
A lot of people are invested in the ecosystem. That's why you see people who have spent $500 on a new phone get an update and realize they don't have functioning apps and that the whole polish of the OS went down two notches. It's disheartening especially when you don't have money to change or are stuck in a contract. Also, your argument about look how iOS and Android were after 2 years is flawed because Microsoft is not competing with 2 year old iOS, they are competing with 7 year old iOS. Microsoft was late to the game by 4 years, so if they want to compete, they have to be playing at the level that iOS and Android are playing at right now.
I empathize, however, 8.1 was OP-TIO-NALLL, Opt-in, at-one's-risk... :orly:

He/she/its not entirely wrong, because the Developer Preview for Update 3 was the final build and the primary winkwink, nudgenudge reason for the Preview is to be the enthusiast early access program. I expected the DP 8.1 to be the RTM one.
FFS, people, for the last time, the OS is finished, the APPS are a frickin' BETA! :amaze:


*rage quits the thread* :smile:
 
There is some serious misinformation here. Microsoft stated over and over again that the Dev preview is FINAL. This is not a beta. Same with the GDR3 release on dev preview. No one expected there to be problems. If you did, then you were misinformed or not reading the right information. Now that there are problems, Microsoft is finally trying to make up on the bad rep by saying the apps aren't final and they are continuing to work on them. Which is good...but regardless, it is fact that the dev preview is the final version that is going out on the 930 and 630. Now if they realize that there are big screwups in their final code, then that's their problem and good for them for going back and attempting to fix/change things.

Will the 630/635 and 930 come with cyan?

I think there is a lot of misinformation out there and a lot of people who don't understand what the preview is like the fact that it is going to need cyan to work with it properly.

Your post proves your own point really.
 
Nokia just updated Mix radio making it a lot quicker to load your personal library in 8.1 - I'm making the move. As the xbox music is no longer baked into the OS and just another app I don't see much advantage over using this as opposed to Nokia mix radio (unless you have an xbox music pass)
 
Nokia just updated Mix radio making it a lot quicker to load your personal library in 8.1 - I'm making the move. As the xbox music is no longer baked into the OS and just another app I don't see much advantage over using this as opposed to Nokia mix radio (unless you have an xbox music pass)
You got it - as a windows phone loyalist, I have paid for the pass, and it never worked well, which is so disheartening
 
Nokia just updated Mix radio making it a lot quicker to load your personal library in 8.1 - I'm making the move. As the xbox music is no longer baked into the OS and just another app I don't see much advantage over using this as opposed to Nokia mix radio (unless you have an xbox music pass)
that's actually a good point, completely forgot about that!

You got it - as a windows phone loyalist, I have paid for the pass, and it never worked well, which is so disheartening
has a nice ring to it.. loyalisssst :smile: the pass was never even available in Czech Republic anyway..
 
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There is some serious misinformation here. Microsoft stated over and over again that the Dev preview is FINAL. This is not a beta. Same with the GDR3 release on dev preview. No one expected there to be problems. If you did, then you were misinformed or not reading the right information. Now that there are problems, Microsoft is finally trying to make up on the bad rep by saying the apps aren't final and they are continuing to work on them. Which is good...but regardless, it is fact that the dev preview is the final version that is going out on the 930 and 630. Now if they realize that there are big screwups in their final code, then that's their problem and good for them for going back and attempting to fix/change things.

The OS maybe final but the apps are yet to be updated with the new 8.1 and also firmware update for compatibility with the hardware. That's why this is a developer preview you get the OS update ahead of the firmware and the updated apps months before its official release. I knew I could face problems like Music, Video and Games app but so far nothing too big that would made me revert back to 8. People are complaining about something that of there own doing is beyond me. No once forced you to update. You should have read the agreement and whatnot before hitting the accept button.

This is why it's called a Developer Preview so that developers could test out their apps and update and make it worked with 8.1 It's just a bonus that non developers could opt to update their phone as well.
 
that's actually a good point, completely forgot about that!


has a nice ring to it.. loyalisssst :smile: the pass was never even available in Czech Republic anyway..

Also, just like Xbox team, they should be more forthcoming with the responses from users - they could have come out and say "sorry, guys, we are going to miss the date", rather than editing the post and pretending every thing is fine.
Modifying the post not only shows they are incompetent, but also dishonest.
 
When I got 8.1 I did so knowing that it WOULD have problems and that some of them could be serious ones. No one is making people download the update. It's not like they bought a phone with 8.0 and Microsoft sent an automatic update to their phones.

Someone posted last week that if Microsoft had of charged for the update it would have stopped every Tom **** and Harry form getting it and in doing so it would stop a lot of people that don't seem to understand what the preview is.

The more I look at the posts all over the site the more I agree with him.

I think it would be worse, to be honest. If they had limited it to only paid up developers,, you would have seen a lot of people fork out the registration cash just to get the update. Then, instead of people complaining about how 'unfinished' it is, they would have the added attitude of entitlement to go with it. As well as ranting about the functionality, they would be demanding their money back too!!!

At least this way people cant really ***** too much about a free and voluntary update, regardless of how polished it might be

EDIT: Wow I can't say beyatch, kids might be watching...
 
I think it would be worse, to be honest. If they had limited it to only paid up developers,, you would have seen a lot of people fork out the registration cash just to get the update. Then, instead of people complaining about how 'unfinished' it is, they would have the added attitude of entitlement to go with it. As well as ranting about the functionality, they would be demanding their money back too!!!

At least this way people cant really ***** too much about a free and voluntary update, regardless of how polished it might be

EDIT: Wow I can't say beyatch, kids might be watching...

What about those who paid for Xbox music pass? Are they entitled to using the service on the phone they've paid for
 
Also, just like Xbox team, they should be more forthcoming with the responses from users - they could have come out and say "sorry, guys, we are going to miss the date", rather than editing the post and pretending every thing is fine.
Modifying the post not only shows they are incompetent, but also dishonest.

Whilst they did naff up the timing somewhat, at least they admit the limitations.

I used to own another device from another manufacturer and whenever their updates did something unexpected they did the old 'jedi mind trick':

"There is nothing wrong with your iPad, these aren't the bugs you are looking for"

Then lo and behold an 'unconnected' update would come out and BINGO the bugs just disappear

Jus' sayin'