Walmart sells the AT&T Gophone for a low price!

[WellingtonW]

Have a peek here: Microsoft Lumia 640 vs Lumia 650 comparison: is it worth the upgrade? [Update]

Interesting and odd results. Some times the 3D is much worse on the 640 sometimes better. I wonder is WP10 not optimised yet for the 640. Very buggy on mine.

Another review here...
Head to head: Lumia 640 vs Lumia 650

 

[WellingtonW]

For me I'd go 650 for the better screen alone. 640 is just ok outside. The 650 would be much better. In the shop the screen on the 650 looks at lot better. But its too expensive for the internals IMO.

 

[kakashiax]

Pro 650
The 650 has 16GB internal space and WP10 takes up more internal space.
Much better screen, slimmer, lighter, camera might be tweaked for better still photos.
better front camera
Much better quality build and case.

Pro 640
The 650, faster CPU, GPU
1080p video
compass
Bigger battery, longer battery life.
A lot cheaper.

according to the note, the 640 has a slightly better gpu, but a slightly worse cpu.

 

[JuannyBooBoo]

Got link?

From what I know, 650 is coming to Cricket which AT&T owns. However, Cricket does not unlock phones and in their firmware they make ot so it does not even work with a different AT&T style SIM.

Cricket will be getting 650 in April.

Oops. I misspoke. I was remembering it wrong!!

 

[JuannyBooBoo]

Pro 650
The 650 has 16GB internal space and WP10 takes up more internal space.
Much better screen, slimmer, lighter, camera might be tweaked for better still photos.
better front camera
Much better quality build and case.

Pro 640
The 650, faster CPU, GPU
1080p video
compass
Bigger battery, longer battery life.
A lot cheaper.

Ah...the biggest thing I missed was the 16 vs 8GB storage. :unhappy: The rest are so incremental, though.. Then again, I thought the move from a 635 to a 640 would just be incremental.. It is..but at the same time, I am loving the 640. lol.

 

[RumoredNow]

I wonder is WP10 not optimised yet for the 640. Very buggy on mine.

My 640 wasn't buggy at all on 10586.164 (Release Ring) when I drove it for almost a month (I'm back on 1520.3 w/ Official W10M).

Mind you I enrolled in Insider, updated all the way, hard rest, no restore backup. Clean install and manual setup.

 

[WellingtonW]

...Mind you I enrolled in Insider, updated all the way, hard rest, no restore backup. Clean install and manual setup.

I did the same.

 

[WellingtonW]

according to the note, the 640 has a slightly better gpu, but a slightly worse cpu.

The benchmarks are a bit odd for the hardware.

Cortex A7 4x1.2GHz & Adreno 305
Cortex A7 4X1.3GHz & Adreno 304

By odd I mean the results aren't consistent. A 0.3 difference in cpu speed in almost the same chipset doesn't explain the differences in those benchmarks. I would guess (perhaps incorrectly) is related how the WP Os has been optimized.

That said you'd be really buying the 650 for the screen and the much nicer chassis

 

[charktorious]

You can unlock without turning the phone on right? How did you unbrand?

Correct. you can unlock without even opening the package as the IMEI is on the outside box. Just make sure that, after you get the unlock code and open the box, do NOT power up the phone with the AT&T SIM in it - you want to pull the SIM out first and then add your own SIM.

There's threads on the details for that, as well as how to debrand. The latter requires the installation and download of a few programs, but it does work. I have BAND12 confirmed working on my 640, and if I left it at 8.1 Wifi Calling was working as well.

 

[rhapdog]

My 640 wasn't buggy at all on 10586.164 (Release Ring) when I drove it for almost a month (I'm back on 1520.3 w/ Official W10M).

Mind you I enrolled in Insider, updated all the way, hard rest, no restore backup. Clean install and manual setup.

I rolled back to 8.1, did a restore on 8.1. Afterwards, I upgraded to W10M. It first took me to .107 with a configuration update, then a second update to .164. Put it on the production ring.

Did a full restore of apps and settings. It runs fabulous. No hard reset and I restored the backup. Works like a charm.

On the new L640 we bought, did the same thing. Upgraded straight from 8.1 to 10, and while restoring restored from my wife's 635. No hard reset, and a restore from a different model. No issues found after a week of use. Working great.

I think the hard reset is just needed when upgrading over older installs of W10M. If you go straight to the current release from 8.1 to 10.0.10586.164, it doesn't have an issue that requires the "hard reset / no restore" tactic, which is good, because this one is meant for the general public that doesn't want to go through all that.

 

[xrs22]

With some luck, happened to go back to walmart to get some errands done ad low and behold there's a 640 there all by its lonesome...so I got it.

 

[Sedp23]

I don't believe the 212 is faster than the 400. I reserve judgement till I see some benchmarks. They are very careful to be vague about the performance of these.

https://youtu.be/SoGsOnbLlbc

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[WellingtonW]

It's becoming clear that they are optimising the OS for the new phones. Luckily the 640 performs well despite this. It's looking likely dual core phones will not get the same attention. I wonder will this decimate the user base.