What's the single most frustrating thing about the Microsoft Band for you?

The fact that my data are stored in the cloud. Still after seven months or so I don't like this info floating around on MS servers. Personally I'd prefer a local data store and an optional encrypted online backup.
 
The fact that my data are stored in the cloud. Still after seven months or so I don't like this info floating around on MS servers. Personally I'd prefer a local data store and an optional encrypted online backup.

By local, do you mean on the phone? Because to me, transferring from phone to phone seems like a HUGE pain, especially if you're switching OSes. Your data obviously can't be stored on the band. It contains literally MB of storage. There's just too much data processing going on a once to justify a local backup.
 
By local, do you mean on the phone?
On the phone or synced to a laptop as an option, with 'store online' as the default. I have 96GB of space on my 1520, so in principle there is plenty of room. MS states that the data is secure, but it kind of looks like nothing connected to the internet is ever secure. Anyway, I doubt hackers want to know what time I go to bed, but if there was a 'local storage only' option I'd still use it.
 
Anyway, I doubt hackers want to know what time I go to bed, but if there was a 'local storage only' option I'd still use it.

For me, it's not local vs cloud storage. It's HOW that data is being used. Sure MS says they don't sell the data to anyone, but I can see a future where advertisers can customize their delivery to YOU based on your sleep patterns, your commute route, your free time locations, etc.
​The big picture, long term question is how we are helping advertisers reach us. Big question.
 
I tend to agree with ^^^.

However...

For me, it's not local vs cloud storage. It's HOW that data is being used. Sure MS says they don't sell the data to anyone, but I can see a future where advertisers can customize their delivery to YOU based on your sleep patterns, your commute route, your free time locations, etc. ​The big picture, long term question is how we are helping advertisers reach us. Big question.

I know nothing about law and privacy. I haven't even stayed in a Holiday Inn Express recently. However, I've seen a few episodes of Law and Order, so I have a vague idea that there's something intrinsically wrong about hyper-targeted marketing. Still, I can't construct an argument in my own head about why it's a threat. The best idea I can come up with -- and I'm admittedly grasping at straws here -- is the following:

When advertisers know too much about us, they can create ads that are so exquisitely tailored to our circumstances that we effectively "can't refuse." It essentially creates an unfair advantage for the advertiser because they know the "secret code" to unlock our pocket books. In other words: we won't be able to resist.

I'm hoping @jleebiker (or someone) can enlighten me on the issue. I'm SURE there's a better argument...I just can't come up with it.

-Matt

PS on a related note, I browse with Adblock Plus -- it's just incredible to me what webapges look like (esp. news sites) with it turned off. Maybe I live in a sheltered universe because I feel like I see a lot less online advertising than other people.
 
Lol I could care less if ms knows my heath patterns, silly people!

You say that now...
How about a future that as soon as you wake up, you get ads on your phone or wearable such as "We noticed that you're not sleeping well. How about this medication..." or "We noticed that you may be having some erectile issue due to the lack of HR spikes at night. How about this medication.." or "You seem to drive pretty fast on your commute. How about a new insurance quote?" or "This is your local Police Department, you have been issued a ticket for running the red light at 9:05pm on 5/16/2015 at the corner of 1st and Main." (See the pattern here?)

Yes, I know it sounds Big Brother-ish, but the potential is there and the advertisers are CHOMPING at the bit to get to the data. Trust me on this.
 
You say that now...
How about a future that as soon as you wake up, you get ads on your phone or wearable such as "We noticed that you're not sleeping well. How about this medication..." or "We noticed that you may be having some erectile issue due to the lack of HR spikes at night. How about this medication.." or "You seem to drive pretty fast on your commute. How about a new insurance quote?" or "This is your local Police Department, you have been issued a ticket for running the red light at 9:05pm on 5/16/2015 at the corner of 1st and Main." (See the pattern here?)

Yes, I know it sounds Big Brother-ish, but the potential is there and the advertisers are CHOMPING at the bit to get to the data. Trust me on this.


WOAH!!! I'm going to call a Tangent Alert on MYSELF! WOOP WOOP WOOP!!! Let's get back on topic.
 
You say that now...
How about a future that as soon as you wake up, you get ads on your phone or wearable such as "We noticed that you're not sleeping well. How about this medication..." or "We noticed that you may be having some erectile issue due to the lack of HR spikes at night. How about this medication.." or "You seem to drive pretty fast on your commute. How about a new insurance quote?" or "This is your local Police Department, you have been issued a ticket for running the red light at 9:05pm on 5/16/2015 at the corner of 1st and Main." (See the pattern here?)

Yes, I know it sounds Big Brother-ish, but the potential is there and the advertisers are CHOMPING at the bit to get to the data. Trust me on this.
Scary
 
You say that now...
How about a future that as soon as you wake up, you get ads on your phone or wearable such as "We noticed that you're not sleeping well. How about this medication..." or "We noticed that you may be having some erectile issue due to the lack of HR spikes at night. How about this medication.." or "You seem to drive pretty fast on your commute. How about a new insurance quote?" or "This is your local Police Department, you have been issued a ticket for running the red light at 9:05pm on 5/16/2015 at the corner of 1st and Main." (See the pattern here?)

Yes, I know it sounds Big Brother-ish, but the potential is there and the advertisers are CHOMPING at the bit to get to the data. Trust me on this.
Sorry to call you on it but: your first three are already happening at places like Amazon that use your shopping patterns and click-streams to forecast your buying habits/needs. I remember once looking at books about some mundane topic (perhaps, "meditation") and seeing a recommendation for something totally unrelated (perhaps, "DIY car maintenance") under the "Customers like you also bought" and went, "HOLY CRAP, I actually need that book!" LOL

Your fourth is...how should I put this...that's already happening too. They're called intersection cameras.

WOAH!!! I'm going to call a Tangent Alert on MYSELF! WOOP WOOP WOOP!!! Let's get back on topic.

My vote for the funniest post of the day. Good catch!

Perhaps you can head over to another thread to continue the privacy/Big Brother discussion:

Would you wear a tracker to get an insurance discount?

​-Matt
 
Lol I could care less if ms knows my heath patterns, silly people!

Eons ago, I remember a lot of hand wringing over what MS could do given their all-powerful OS running on our computers. But I think time has proven that MS is a software company. OTOH, Google has shown to be an information company. Which one would you rather have your info?

(I realize some people will say "none of the above" but for the rest who want the features, it's something to think about.)
 
so I have a vague idea that there's something intrinsically wrong about hyper-targeted marketing. Still, I can't construct an argument in my own head about why it's a threat. The best idea I can come up with -- and I'm admittedly grasping at straws here -- is the following:

When advertisers know too much about us, they can create ads that are so exquisitely tailored to our circumstances that we effectively "can't refuse."


I wonder if that explains some of the "stars" we see.

But seriously, I think there's two issues: the marketing one I'm not too worried about. My biggest issue there is to control where in my life the ads appear. Are they going to start appearing on the edge of the mirror when I shave in the morning? How about the wall I stare at while sitting on "the throne"?

The other part is just who knows this? Is it just the bot that selects the ads, or is this information disseminated to each of the advertisers - meaning a whole bunch of companies and the people who run them. And what if our next door neighbor happens to work for one of those companies?
 
Not just you. Drives me nuts. Most relevant information I want on my run (distance, pace, etc.) are on the swipe down screen. Had to give up looking at that info in late August.
 
Late to this but heart rate tracking during exercise. It is not even close for me. I am in cardio rehab so hooked up to monitors with nurses watching every second. Monitors read 100 and I look at the Band and it might be 105, might be 130, might be 150. Sometimes it will synch in and track correctly but not often. I ve tried wearing it on both arms, each direction, multiple tightness settings. Just does not track my heartrate. Hope Band 2 does better because that is my only issue.